Competition with a nice reward

[BloodOmen]

Ok, before I start i'd just like to say that this is erm, a hard challenge to say the least lol i'd also like to point out it does bare a worth while reward (See Below) what i'm looking for is a caster thane template.


This template MUST include the following and I mean MUST!


Spear of Kings
Cyclops Eye Shield
Guard of Valor
Maddening Scalars
Crown of Zahur (This is completely optional if it doesn't fit don't worry its not super important.. just a toy i would have like to have had)
Shades of Mist
Atlantis Tablet or Dreamsphere
Phoebus Harp Necklace


Requirements:

Despite this being a caster thane template I still want to be able to melee so I would like to retain the following skills and stats - Str 75+ and Weapon 11 this part is not optional its a 100% solid requirement.


to beat the comp the template will need to have the following stats- not including racial resists

dex 90+
pie 90+
con 75+
str 75+
qui 75+
hits 200+
body 22+
heat 22+
cold 22+
spirit 16+
energy 16+
matter 16+
slash 22+
crush 23+
thrust 25+

weapon +11

10 melee speed
4+ melee damage
4+ style damage
4+ spell damage
4+ spell range
4+ cast speed



The person who gets the closest will recieve a "Thank You" but the person who beats the challenge completely will recieve a USA account with a lvl 50 minstrel on Gareth/Alb happy template making! this comp will end on the 29th March 2007



I'd just like to point out if the stats do not equal or greater the minstrel will not be given out

 

[Nuxtobatns]

Tbh...some wrong core choices, but seems easy.

 

[Basic_X]

Just so you know, within the 2 patches, the /use2 of the PH neck will only work on skalds in midgard

 

[Fuaip]

First attempt: No new armor stuff used, dunno what can get in it - Made for hib tank but u can switch it. Reason is that i dont have stuff in mid calc, so u can change the intelligence to piety and the +blades to +whatever u want

Needs like 6 intelligence, 2 matter/spirit and 8 energy.. energy isnt a must but if thats what u want, i dont think i can push it further.
Close enough? :touch:

If u tell me what caps or however the new stuff works in armor, i might be able to make it even closer or perfect

Config Report

Stats

Str: 78 Int: 86 Hits: 220
Con: 76 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 90 Cha: 0
Qui: 74 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 23 Energy: 8 Crush: 24
Cold: 23 Matter: 14 Thrust: 23
Heat: 22 Spirit: 14 Slash: 29

Skills

3 Parry

11 Blades

Focus

Cap Increases

19 Dex

152 Hits

9 Int

17 Str

5 Qui

5 Con

Other Bonuses

6 Spell Duration Bonus

4 Style Damage Bonus

4 Spell Range Bonus

4 Spell Damage Bonus

10 Fatigue

18 Melee Speed Bonus

7 Melee Damage Bonus

33 AF Bonus

14 Power Percentage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: GoV Thane
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 9: 4 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 19 Constitution - 99 faceted Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 22 Intelligence - 99 precious Dusty Essence
Gem 3: 4 Blades - 99 flawed Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Utility: 65.33

Head
Name: Crown of Zahur(Warden)
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Acuity
Effect 2: 8 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 3: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 5 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 42.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 16 Quickness - 99 polished Airy Essence
Gem 2: 9 Body Resist - 99 polished Dusty Shielding
Gem 3: 4 Blades - 99 flawed Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Utility: 66.67

Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars(Tank)
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Blades - 99 rough Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 28 Quickness - 99 perfect Airy Essence
Gem 3: 16 Intelligence - 99 polished Dusty Essence
Gem 4: 9 Heat Resist - 99 polished Heated Shielding
Utility: 62.33

Right Hand
Name: Spear of Kings
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 4 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 4 Body Resist
Effect 6: 4 Spirit Resist
Effect 7: 5 Fatigue
Effect 8: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 9: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 48.00

Left Hand
Name: Cycloptic Shield
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 5 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 5 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 5 Body Resist
Effect 6: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 7: 8 AF Bonus
Effect 8: 32 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Phoebus Harp Necklace
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 15 Acuity
Effect 5: 6 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 6: 6 Spell Duration Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist(Tank)
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Parry
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Dream Sphere
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Fatigue
Effect 2: 15 AF Bonus
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 6: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 7: 5 Body Resist
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 40.00

Belt
Name: Black Water Belt
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Constitution
Effect 2: 21 Dexterity
Effect 3: 24 Strength
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 44.00

Right Ring
Name: Immolated Ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Acuity
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 8 Energy Resist
Effect 4: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 4 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 52.00

Left Ring
Name: Leviathan Ring of the Deep
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Strength
Effect 2: 21 Dexterity
Effect 3: 21 Constitution
Effect 4: 20 Hits
Effect 5: 7 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 47.00

Right Wrist
Name: Cyclone Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ceremonical Bracer (Dex version)
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

 

[Emmet]

since Phoesbus harp will be useless in a couple of patches, i put another necky in this is the best i could do >_<


LOKI Build Report
Class: Thane
Level: 50

Dual Wield
Item Utility: 761.7
Build Utility: 801.7
Useable Utility: 795.7
TOA Utility: 442.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Statistic
Strength: 76/85
Constitution: 78/85
Dexterity: 76/92
Quickness: 64/80
Intelligence: 0/75
Piety: 91/92
Charisma: 0/75
Empathy: 0/75
Hits: 220/352
Power: 0/25

Resistance
Body: 29/26+5
Cold: 20/26
Heat: 19/26
Energy: 13/26
Matter: 20/26
Spirit: 16/26
Crush: 24/26
Thrust: 26/26+3
Slash: 23/26+2

Skill
Axe: 4/11
Hammer: 4/11
Parry: 3/11
Sword: 11/11

Cap Increase
Strength: 10/26
Constitution: 10/26
Dexterity: 17/26
Quickness: 5/26
Piety: 17/26
Hits: 152/200

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 33/50
Power Pool: 14/25
Buff Effectiveness: 5/25
Spell Duration: 10/25
Casting Speed: 6/10
Spell Range: 4/10
Spell Damage: 4/10
Style Damage: 4/10
Melee Damage: 7/10
Melee Combat Speed: 14/10
Fatigue: 10/25

Chest (GoV):
Imbue: 22.0
Strength: 18
Dexterity: 15
Hits: 40
Melee Damage: 4
Style Damage: 4
Spell Range: 4
Spell Damage: 4
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 100.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Arms (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Strength: 25
Constitution: 22
Sword: 3
Cold: 9%
Utility: 64.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Head (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
Sword: 4
Crush: 9%
Thrust: 9%
Constitution: 16
Utility: 66.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Legs (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Crush: 7%
Slash: 9%
Thrust: 9%
Hits: 60
Utility: 65.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Hands (Scalars):
Imbue: 20.0
Hits: 40
Constitution: 15
Quickness: 15
Melee Combat Speed: 3
Melee Damage: 3
Constitution (Cap Increase): 5
Quickness (Cap Increase): 5
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 50.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Feet (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Piety: 25
Dexterity: 19
Constitution: 25
Quickness: 16
Utility: 56.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (SoK):
Imbue: 21.0
Crush: 4%
Slash: 4%
Thrust: 4%
Matter: 4%
Body: 4%
Spirit: 4%
Fatigue: 5
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Utility: 48.0
TOA Utility: 45.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Hand (CES):
Imbue: 30.0
Hits: 40
Cold: 5%
Matter: 5%
Body: 5%
Energy: 5%
Heat: 5%
Armour Factor: 8
Hits (Cap Increase): 32
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 16.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Neck (Nimbus Strand):
Imbue: 27.0
Dexterity: 27
Piety: 27
Power Pool: 6
Casting Speed: 2
Buff Effectiveness: 5
Utility: 36.0
TOA Utility: 32.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Cloak (SoM + new armor bonus):
Imbue: 20.0
Parry: 3
Strength: 15
Quickness: 15
Armour Factor: 10
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Piety (Cap Increase): 5
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Constitution (Cap Increase): 5
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 75.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Jewel (DS):
Imbue: 22.0
Hits: 40
Body: 5%
Spirit: 5%
Matter: 5%
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Armour Factor: 15
Fatigue: 5
Utility: 40.0
TOA Utility: 35.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Belt (Belt of moirai):
Imbue: 12.0
Spirit: 7%
Power Pool: 8
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 8
Piety (Cap Increase): 8
Casting Speed: 2
Utility: 14.0
TOA Utility: 58.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (Tick):
Imbue: 36.5
Crush: 4%
Slash: 4%
Thrust: 4%
Quickness: 18
Strength: 18
ALL melee weapon skills: 4
Melee Combat Speed: 1
Utility: 68.0
TOA Utility: 5.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (Immolated Ring):
Imbue: 31.0
Piety: 15
Dexterity: 15
Heat: 8%
Energy: 8%
Piety (Cap Increase): 4
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 4
Utility: 52.0
TOA Utility: 16.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (Ebon Hide Bracer):
Imbue: 30.0
Body: 6%
Heat: 6%
Cold: 6%
Matter: 6%
Slash: 6%
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (Bracer of Snow):
Imbue: 24.0
Piety: 24
Body: 9%
Spell Duration: 10
Casting Speed: 2
Utility: 34.0
TOA Utility: 30.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

 

[Everz]

why not just give me the acc you tit

 

[Ucallme]

What you ask for is basically impossible
But anyway heres my attempt, hehe.

Config Report

Stats

STR: 83 / 85 (+10)
CON: 84 / 85 (+10)
PIE: 15 / 75
DEX: 81 / 80 (+5)
QUI: 77 / 80 (+5)
%PP: 6% / 25%
Hits: 392 / 392 (+192)
AF: 47 / 58 (+8)

Resists

Body: 33 / 26
Energy: 23 / 26
Crush: 23 / 26 (+2)
Cold: 24 / 26 (+5)
Matter: 33 / 26
Slash: 23 / 26 (+3)
Heat: 19 / 26
Spirit: 21 / 26
Thrust: 26 / 26
Essence: 0 / 26


Skills

11 / 11 Hammer
3 / 11 Parry


Other Bonuses

6 / 25 Duration of Spells
10 / 25 Fatigue
15 / 10 Melee Combat Speed
7 / 10 Melee Damage
4 / 10 Spell Range
4 / 10 Style Damage

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 40 Hits
Slot 2: 18 Strength
Slot 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Slot 4: 15 Dexterity
Slot 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Slot 6: 4 Melee Damage
Slot 7: 4 Style Damage
Utility: 49.7

Arms
Name: Crafted Item2
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 Quality: 100 Overcharge:
Gem 1: 25 Strength
Gem 2: 25 Dexterity
Gem 3: 5 Crush Resist
Gem 4: 22 Quickness
Slot 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 57.0

Head
Name: Crafted Item3
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 Quality: 100 Overcharge:
Gem 1: 25 Strength
Gem 2: 25 Quickness
Gem 3: 5 Slash Resist
Gem 4: 4 Hammer Skill -
Slot 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Utility: 57.0

Legs
Name: Crafted Item4
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 Quality: 100 Overcharge:
Gem 1: 25 Constitution
Gem 2: 19 Dexterity
Gem 3: 7 Cold Resist
Gem 4: 4 Hammer Skill
Slot 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Utility: 57.0

Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 40 Hits
Slot 2: 15 Constitution
Slot 3: 15 Quickness
Slot 4: 3 Melee Combat Speed
Slot 5: 3 Melee Damage
Slot 6: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Slot 7: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Utility: 47.7

Feet
Name: Crafted Item6
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 Quality: 100 Overcharge:
Gem 1: 28 Constitution
Gem 2: 22 Dexterity
Gem 3: 44 Hits
Gem 4: 3 Hammer Skill
Slot 5: 10 AF
Utility: 73.7

Right Hand
Name: Spear of Kings
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 4 Crush Resist
Slot 2: 4 Slash Resist
Slot 3: 4 Thrust Resist
Slot 4: 4 Matter Resist
Slot 5: 4 Body Resist
Slot 6: 4 Spirit Resist
Slot 7: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Slot 8: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Slot 9: 5 Fatigue
Utility: 36.0

Left Hand
Name: Cyclops Eye Shield
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 40 Hits
Slot 2: 5 Heat Resist
Slot 3: 5 Cold Resist
Slot 4: 5 Matter Resist
Slot 5: 5 Body Resist
Slot 6: 5 Energy Resist
Slot 7: 8 AF Cap Increase
Slot 8: 32 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 67.0

Neck
Name: Phoebus Harpe
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 4 Crush Resist
Slot 2: 4 Slash Resist
Slot 3: 4 Thrust Resist
Slot 4: 15 Acuity
Slot 5: 6 % Power Pool
Slot 6: 6 Duration of Spells
Slot 7: 4 Spell Range
Utility: 28.3

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 3 Parry Skill
Slot 2: 15 Strength
Slot 3: 15 Quickness
Slot 4: 10 AF
Slot 5: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 30.7

Jewel
Name: Dream Sphere
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 5 Fatigue
Slot 2: 15 AF
Slot 3: 40 Hits
Slot 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Slot 5: 5 Matter Resist
Slot 6: 5 Spirit Resist
Slot 7: 5 Body Resist
Utility: 51.0

Belt
Name: Banahogg's Belt of the Brute
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 5 Body Resist
Slot 2: 5 Matter Resist
Slot 3: 6 Energy Resist
Slot 4: 40 Hits
Slot 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Slot 6: 12 AF
Utility: 53.0

Left Ring
Name: Zahur Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 6 Energy Resist
Slot 2: 6 Cold Resist
Slot 3: 6 Matter Resist
Slot 4: 60 Hits
Slot 5: 6 Spirit Resist
Slot 6: 6 Body Resist
Utility: 90.3

Right Ring
Name: Levi Ring of Defiance
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 44 Hits
Slot 2: 8 Body Resist
Slot 3: 8 Matter Resist
Slot 4: 8 Heat Resist
Slot 5: 8 Thrust Resist
Utility: 85.7

Left Wrist
Name: Agramon Demon Soul Crafted Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 44 Hits
Slot 2: 16 Constitution
Slot 3: 6 Spirit Resist
Slot 4: 6 Heat Resist
Slot 5: 6 Energy Resist
Slot 6: 6 Cold Resist
Utility: 80.7

Right Wrist
Name: Cyclone Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 10 Thrust Resist
Slot 2: 10 Slash Resist
Slot 3: 10 Crush Resist
Slot 4: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 54.0

Amphrax

 

[anioal]

made 4 templates...

thane1, thane2 and thane4 are w/o phoebus necklace

thane3 is with all the items you required and is missing 2% energy, 2% matter and 1% thrust but that's not really important tbh.


edit: it can be done better if you drop the requirements for phoebus necklace and also for dreamsphere / atlantis tablet
edit2: the boots in thane4 has +5 acuity cap too

 

[anioal]

I'd just like to point out if the stats do not equal or greater the minstrel will not be given out

im only missing resists (totalling 5%) not stats... that makes me a winner?

 

[anioal]

The person who gets the closest

bish, where is my prize? or you're too busy doin laby/poc raids?

 

[BloodOmen]

bish, where is my prize? or you're too busy doin laby/poc raids?

nah just got my net back just moved house! but anyway as the above people pointed out about phoebus being useless without the /use2 every considered I wanted it for the +spell range ? as for the templates give me a few hours to look at them heh xD still unpacking stuff ;( throwing in a 2nd usa account also total of the accounts is!


(PVE account lol)


50 minstrel - gareth
50 paladin - gaheris (pve server)
50 necro - gaheris (pve server)
47 friar - gaheris (pve server)


50 cleric - buffbot for gaheris chars (2nd account)


main account has all expansions apart from laby activated on it - buffbot acc has up until catacombs on it ;x

as I said the account hasn't been used much at all =) infact most of the characters ain't even above rr2 so you could indeed make a name for yourself with them since they ain't well known (the minstrel that is, who gives a rats ass about the pve toons lol, I only made them because I was bored with normal/pvp servers)

 

[Emmet]

nah just got my net back just moved house! but anyway as the above people pointed out about phoebus being useless without the /use2 every considered I wanted it for the +spell range ?

i did, but you want a necky with + spell range as only util for you?
i would personally either go with beaded or castingspeed necky

 

[BloodOmen]

i did, but you want a necky with + spell range as only util for you?
i would personally either go with beaded or castingspeed necky

Yea I see what you mean but I'm a right lazy **** who can't be arsed to do anything lol.. money isn't an issue got an ml10 sm to farm stuff with etc... I'm just extremely lazy when it comes to daoc now ;P + thane already has all I said above