Clerics in 1.69 and beyond...

[Asha]

What specs are you going?

Anyone staying full rejuv?
Anyone going for some weird hybrid?
Anyone going for full enhan like meh?

Can an alb group survive with only one spread healer? Are the upper lvls of enhance spec worth giving up spread heals? Can an alb group survive vs. mids without a buff striper?

 

[swords]

1 cleric 41r 35e 4s Primary healer with backup single target con shears.
1 cleric 43e 32r 6s primary shearer with AOE acruity and dex shears and single target everything else. also has first spread with 25% heal is a decent healer also.

 

[Asha]

43e 32r 6s primary shearer with AOE acruity and dex shears and single target everything else.

You're missing the dmg shield, it's supposed to be the most powerful new thing. Could having it make up for spread heals vs. mids?
And you didn't say what you're going to go


Cleric - Enhancements Spec Line (Single Target)
31 Piety Sequester (Acuity)
32 Adroitness Commandeer (Dexterity)
33 Embodiement Annex (Constitution)
35 Brawn Appropriate (Strength)
36 Endowment Seize (Strength/Constitution)
38 Deftness Usurp (Dexterity/Quickness)
Cleric - Enhancements Spec Line (Area of Effect)
42 Piety Bounce (Acuity)
43 Adroitness Eradicate (Dexterity)
44 Embodiement Banish (Constitution)
47 Brawn Unloose (Strength)
48 Endowment Dispossess (Strength/Constitution)
50 Deftness Irrupt (Dexterity/Quickness)
Cleric - Enhancement Spec Line
46 Hand of God (Absorbs 85%)


I think that the really important things to get are aoe spec str/con (48), con (44) and the shield (46). The single target are ok, but I think aoe will be more important group vs. group.

I could be very wrong though

 

[Tilda]

You could do a nice BG tank- Enh cleric duo.
BG tank BG's the cleric, if stuff hits the BGer, the cleric does the Absorb thing
Perhaps albs should look into fitting 3 healers into their groups?!

Tilda

 

[Asha]

I think it is needed to try it, caster group probably, but it's hard to balance the needs with 3 spaces being taken up by clerics which really only have one viable line each. Maybe using a very smite heavy 3rd cleric, but I am not so sure ...

I doubt you can BG and have absorb shield. The sheild breaks if the target is doing anything but moving I believe. I would think this includes BG.

 

[Alithiel]

I never thought I'd see the day that Asha became a stripper... the things some Clerics will do to get groups!

 

[Kagato]

oh nice, might be something to look forward to in future patches after all then.

 

[Asha]

pfff this is a serious thread! stop it or tilda will lock it

(might have to log in when 1.69 is patched and challenge alith to a duel just to strip her

)

 

[Downanael]

Going to stay like i am atm (40 rejuv 36 ench 4 smite) atleast for start.

 

[Kagato]

pfff this is a serious thread! stop it or tilda will lock it

(might have to log in when 1.69 is patched and challenge alith to a duel just to strip her

)

Can I watch?

 

[Z^^]

uhm when buffsharing is active then there is no reason what so ever to ever spec smite 10 smite just for ae interrupt etc..

and higher is kinda pointless afterwards...

 

[Asha]

I was thinking about for dmg
(don't slap me)

I mean you just can't fit 2x Rej, and an enc in albie groups...

 

[Alithiel]

pfff this is a serious thread! stop it or tilda will lock it

Stripping is a serious subject!

(might have to log in when 1.69 is patched and challenge alith to a duel just to strip her)

Anytime, hun! :wub:

Can I watch?

No...

For a 3 Cleric group, I'd suggest:

Cleric (48 Enh) Perfecter
Cleric (41 Rej 35 Enh) Warlord
Cleric (41 Rej 35 Smi) Perfecter
Theurgist (41 Ice 35 Earth) Convoker
Sorcerer (44 Mind 31 Body) Stormlord
Paladin (42+ Shield 42+ Chants) Battlemaster
Mercenary (50 DW 50 Slash/Crush) Banelord
Mercenary (50 DW 50 Slash/Crush) Banelord

 

[Sigh]

Stripping is a serious subject!

Anytime, hun! :wub:

No...

For a 3 Cleric group, I'd suggest:

Cleric (48 Enh) Perfecter
Cleric (41 Rej 35 Enh) Warlord
Cleric (41 Rej 35 Smi) Perfecter
Theurgist (41 Ice 35 Earth) Convoker
Sorcerer (44 Mind 31 Body) Stormlord
Paladin (42+ Shield 42+ Chants) Battlemaster
Mercenary (50 DW 50 Slash/Crush) Banelord
Mercenary (50 DW 50 Slash/Crush) Banelord

would be funny to think alb wouldnt have sos, and hib and mid would ^^

 

[Tilda]

Stripping is a serious subject!
Anytime, hun! :wub:
No...
For a 3 Cleric group, I'd suggest:

Cleric (48 Enh) Perfecter
Cleric (41 Rej 35 Enh) Warlord
Cleric (41 Rej 35 Smi) Perfecter
Theurgist (41 Ice 35 Earth) Convoker
Sorcerer (44 Mind 31 Body) Stormlord
Paladin (42+ Shield 42+ Chants) Battlemaster
Spirit cabby (50 Spirit rest body)
Sorcerer (Body ) Banelord

:wub:

I like it, however i'd suggest:

Cleric
Cleric
Cleric
Sorc (b)
Sorc (m)
Cabby (s)
Cabby (s)
Pally/Mincer

Can either run on sorc speed + sprint, or mincer speed.
ofc, if you drop 1 cleric for a mincer, you can have a far more flexible

Cleric
Cleric
Sorc
Sorc
Cabby
Cabby
Pally
Mincer/Merc

Tilda

 

[Asha]

well groups can be very very flexable after NF but in 1.69 it's kinda hard to imagine a group with only one spread heal or without buff shield or with 3 clerics... have to pick

I want to try 48 enhan but I think there is going to be a severe lack of rejuv clerics post 1.69...

btw ya'all are totally overlooking friars
I think they are going to be fotm in 1.69 and more so in NF
a group with one spread heal but with a friar or two might be ok in NF

 

[Z^^]

For a 3 Cleric group, I'd suggest:

Cleric (48 Enh) Perfecter
Cleric (41 Rej 35 Enh) Warlord
Cleric (41 Rej 35 Smi) Perfecter
Theurgist (41 Ice 35 Earth) Convoker
Sorcerer (44 Mind 31 Body) Stormlord
Paladin (42+ Shield 42+ Chants) Battlemaster
Mercenary (50 DW 50 Slash/Crush) Banelord
Mercenary (50 DW 50 Slash/Crush) Banelord

maybe the 5 other classes are right but why smite and why enhance on the other clerics as they wouldn't do anything with their secondary abilitys
smite = aeinterrupt enhance =35, just resists rather go abit higher rej imo, or higher smite for additional dmg 40 rej is enough the level 41 heal is kinda gimp...

 

[Asha]

urgh it's going to be a total pain to find 3 clerics with 3 different specs...
anyhow tell me how you all are speccing

 

[Z^^]

urgh it's going to be a total pain to find 3 clerics with 3 different specs...
anyhow tell me how you all are speccing

not gonna chance or maybe respec out all enhance for smite or keep it as it is for my buffs so i can't be buffshared..

 

[Shannesa]

well reain 48 rej fore next patch as far i know right now love the healings i get from this

and most clerics stop at 40 rej

 

[Asha]

damn, that means I will still be able to group with you

 

[Z^^]

well after looking
primary healer,
45r 21e 20s you get best heals green spec dex able to cap base buffs and ae interrupt and better pbae mezz

buffshearer ae interrupt /backup healer
48 or even 50enh - the higher enh give you d/q removal and best defencive heal proc and good dex/q buff share, I would say 50 is too much but then agian remove dex/quickness buffs is evil.
rej 20 or 24 - 20 rej is really a loss from 24, because you miss out 1 insta heal and 50% res really too big issue too loose from the advantage of specing 50 enh imo, but damn that ae dex/qui buffremoval spell can be of the rox vs boxed pbae casters, if this is how we play the game then.

then a valid third spec is really something I cant see as thise two are the ones who gonna be the most viable, maybe some sort of in between like the old ones with 40rej for 100%heal and then enhance for helping with removing buffs.

 

[swords]

I dont think its worth losing spread for the shield thingy.
i'll be going 43E and we'll see how it works out.

 

[Asha]

I'm tempted to try 50............ but it's really crap healing then.

 

[Bonehead]

urgh it's going to be a total pain to find 3 clerics with 3 different specs...

Well.. try a fixed guild group instead of huge random invite at Atk!

 

[Downanael]

Well.. try a fixed guild group instead of huge random invite at Atk!

Fun...not

 

[Asha]

Well.. try a fixed guild group instead of huge random invite at Atk!

wtf did I ever do a random invite at atk?
I could explain it to you, but you obviously don't know what you're talking about so I won't bother. Anyone in an Alb rvr group knows what I mean.

 

[Dantares]

Going to stick with what I have, 45 Rej. There's way too many buff-bots around as it is and we need real clerics. Shame we can't get another spec line so that we can get a few more points to spend as I am a bit tired of being a one trick wonder. Healer, buffer or smiter.

 

[Puppet]

I play a druid on Prydwen and we're basically in the same troubles as clerics. Surely its more easy to fit in 3 druids then 3 clerics but for individual speccing you're pretty much on the same problem as me.

As far as I see it (dont shoot me; 0 experience in this) I think the AE-sheers arent really that good since they're groundtargetted 150 radius. Totally shite to drop it so you get the majority of the enemy group which means multiple sheers and you might as well do it single target and safe yourselves setting GT etc etc etc.

Im considering going 44 nurture (enhance) 30 regrowth (rejuv) 9 nature. The 9 nature is for AE-interrupting (a targettable AE root for interruption >>>> Groundtargetted 150 radius) and a tougher pet.

The downside is I will not have the focus-shield but that is impossible to obtain without dropping regrowth to a pit-full amount :/

I need to test if the focus-shield can get interrupted once its cast (I cast it; someone hits me; does it break or does it stay on?) if its interruptable its entirely useless to me it seems. No way you can keep focus up then (if you can something is wrong with enemy and you wouldnt need it anyhow).....

Anyhow I dont enjoy looking forward to this patch. It was unneeded and it doesnt seem fun nor obtaining a goal which WE players wanted.

 

[Parlain]

pfff this is a serious thread! stop it or tilda will lock it

(might have to log in when 1.69 is patched and challenge alith to a duel just to strip her

)

Gifv Stripping