cleric Conc

lathonial · Oct 31, 2003

mayb better posted on alb forums, but who goes there?

i seem to b unable to do full buffs on 2 people, when some can (excluding 2nd health regen), how do i increase my conc pool?

50eenhance btw

Tilda · Oct 31, 2003

cap piety.

Puppetmistress · Oct 31, 2003

Get Masterlevel whcih increases your conc. pool by 20%

And give the buffbot some cheap armour pieces so you can SC it to have 75 piety

loxleyhood · Oct 31, 2003

Originally posted by lathonial
mayb better posted on alb forums, but who goes there?

Albs?

nalistah · Oct 31, 2003

piety.. same for shamans, more piety = more conc?

jox · Oct 31, 2003

Originally posted by lathonial
mayb better posted on alb forums, but who goes there?

i seem to b unable to do full buffs on 2 people, when some can (excluding 2nd health regen), how do i increase my conc pool?

50eenhance btw

Yeah, cap that Piety so you can cast that stackable af-buff; holy barrier in Lvl 44(that gives another 67 in af which have the same effect as a perma avoid pain 1.4) on you and your mincer friends

Kurik BHM · Oct 31, 2003

Re: Re: cleric Conc

Originally posted by jox
Yeah, cap that Piety so you can cast that stackable af-buff; holy barrier in Lvl 44(that gives another 67 in af which have the same effect as a perma avoid pain 1.4) on you and your mincer friends

actually gives around 110AF

and grats on 50 lath

nalistah · Oct 31, 2003

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Originally posted by Kurik BHM
actually gives around 110AF

and grats on 50 lath

i f33l balance in teh air :hat:

lathonial · Oct 31, 2003

thanks m8

where u to meen, mal says ur away for a while??

Powahhh · Oct 31, 2003

Originally posted by lathonial
mayb better posted on alb forums, but who goes there?

i seem to b unable to do full buffs on 2 people, when some can (excluding 2nd health regen), how do i increase my conc pool?

50eenhance btw

put piety in armor
with epic armor on my bb can fully buff 2 ppls with red bufs and 2 health regen

belth · Oct 31, 2003

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Originally posted by nalistah
i f33l balance in teh air :hat:

Lalalaa, you got end, we got AF, hibs got haste... Give thanes AF-chant.

jox · Oct 31, 2003

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Originally posted by belth
Lalalaa, you got end, we got AF, hibs got haste... Give thanes AF-chant.

lol

Driwen · Oct 31, 2003

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Originally posted by belth
Lalalaa, you got end, we got AF, hibs got haste... Give thanes AF-chant.

except that end is on range, so not that useful when talking about buffbots?

belth · Oct 31, 2003

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Originally posted by driwen
except that end is on range, so not that useful when talking about buffbots?

troo troo, but you can't have it all, now can ya?

nalistah · Oct 31, 2003

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Originally posted by belth
Lalalaa, you got end, we got AF, hibs got haste... Give thanes AF-chant.

and just how do a 1000 range endbuff helps me as an assassin? :eek:

even our buffb0t gets nerfed

(even thou our last endbuff that lasted 10mins isnt as good as +110 in AF)

Pin · Oct 31, 2003

Re: Re: cleric Conc

Originally posted by jox
Yeah, cap that Piety so you can cast that stackable af-buff; holy barrier in Lvl 44(that gives another 67 in af which have the same effect as a perma avoid pain 1.4) on you and your mincer friends

It delves for 67. Which means it raises for 67*1.25*[abs] = 92 on leather, 106 on chain. (increased by mota).

But it adds to AF, not to ABS, so it's not equivalent to any level of AP. It reduces damage by ~14%, but that doesn't mean it's equal to AP 1.4.

On leather:

AP1 reduces damage by 11%
AP2 reduces damage by 22%
AP3 reduces damage by 33%

On chain:

AP1 reduces damage by 14%
AP2 reduces damage by 27%
AP3 reduces damage by 41%

But stop moaning. You get conc haste on Healers which increases your damage by more than that 14% anyway

Whisperess · Oct 31, 2003

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Originally posted by Pin
But stop moaning. You get conc haste on Healers which increases your damage by more than that 14% anyway

That requires 2 buffbots though - seeing as how druids have it as well.

cleric > druid > shaman > healer

when it comes to buffbots.

Pin · Oct 31, 2003

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Originally posted by Whisperess
That requires 2 buffbots though - seeing as how druids have it as well.

Or 2 people, one with a healer, one with a shaman, buffing 2 chars.

Point remains. Stop crying about every bloody trivial difference between realms.

jox · Oct 31, 2003

Originally posted by Pin
It delves for 67. Which means it raises for 67*1.25*[abs] = 92 on leather, 106 on chain. (increased by mota).

But it adds to AF, not to ABS, so it's not equivalent to any level of AP. It reduces damage by ~14%, but that doesn't mean it's equal to AP 1.4.

On leather:

AP1 reduces damage by 11%
AP2 reduces damage by 22%
AP3 reduces damage by 33%

On chain:

AP1 reduces damage by 14%
AP2 reduces damage by 27%
AP3 reduces damage by 41%

But stop moaning. You get conc haste on Healers which increases your damage by more than that 14% anyway

Hehe, ok, so the af-buff = a perma ap 1,27 then?!

Why does ap reduce more dmg on chain-wearers?

So when Alpha turn on ap3 he have like;

41% + 14% + 26% + 2% = 83% in resistance.

And that guy complains coz I dont try to solo him anymore

Pin · Oct 31, 2003

Originally posted by jox
Hehe, ok, so the af-buff = a perma ap 1,27 then?!

No. As AP has a vastly different effect depending on what armour you wear.

Originally posted by jox
Why does ap reduce more dmg on chain-wearers?

Because Abs buffs (necro, AP, BoF, etc) add to absorb. If you have 10% abs, and add 30%, you have 40% total.

So (1-0.4)/(1-0.1)=2/3 = 33% damage reduction from plain leather from a 30% buff.

If you start on 27%, and add 30%, you have 57% total.

So (1-0.57)/(1-0.27)= 0.59 = 41% reduction.

Originally posted by jox
So when Alpha turn on ap3 he have like;

41% + 14% + 26% + 2% = 83% in resistance.

Not really. The 41% reduction just means he takes 41% less damage than before it was turned on. AF and resists factor externally to ABS (you cannot just add them together).

loxleyhood · Oct 31, 2003

NIGHT OF THE LIVING ENCYCLOPEDIA

Arnor · Oct 31, 2003

Originally posted by loxleyhood
NIGHT OF THE LIVING ENCYCLOPEDIA

hirr hirr, think ill get Pin's cellphone number, just incase I EVER need to know anything ^^

ab_fluid · Oct 31, 2003

Pin you scare me

Pin · Oct 31, 2003

Err... It's not like it's hard. It's just high-school maths.

[damage done] = ([base damage]/[af])*(1-[abs%])*(1-[resist%])

change some vaariables, divide through the equations, you get the difference.

Kagato. · Oct 31, 2003

Why work it out though when we can just ask you?

But going back to original topic, I find with 50 enhance (+mastery of arcane 3) I can only fully buff 2 people as well (4 base 4 spec each).

Arnor · Oct 31, 2003

Originally posted by Kagato.
Why work it out though when we can just ask you?

But going back to original topic, I find with 50 enhance (+mastery of arcane 3) I can only fully buff 2 people as well (4 base 4 spec each).

have you got cap pie on bb?

Ill call you pin when im on the last question in "who wants to be a millionaire", then you can get a fair share for all your hard work for me

asar · Oct 31, 2003

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Originally posted by nalistah
piety.. same for shamans, more piety = more conc?

damn piety on hsman troll... maybe trolls even gonna think then

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