Class Pets: Discuss

sneakies

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Okay, im sure ill get flamed, whined at, and generally shown the level of both intellect and maturity that resides on the board with this post. But here goes.

Albion Pets:

Theurgs: VERY quick cast time, can hide behind them, i have no experince in being hit by an ani, but theurg pets consistently hit me when im sat, not moving, behind a wall. Oooh, and pets chase to an extent casting whilst moving.

Cabbys: Chain stunning, stun has _NO_ los, pets also hit like a brick, can melee and dd at same time (i think), can melee and stun at same time.

Necros: Great class for farming money and such (imo), not a nice class to come up against in rvr if ur solo. Specially if they are buffed ;)

Hibernia:

Enchanter: Pets suck ass. One casts heals at 50%, 2 cast dd's and die like flies (apparently one casts root, but its never happened for me in rvr), 4th... lets not go there cause its never used its that bad

Druids: Not very common but pets can stun, or melee. And then the druid can heal enemies to death!

Animists: Can spam turrets, cast time isnt to great (compared to theurgs), pets are stationary, and apparently their LOS is as good as a theurgs.

Midgard:

Spiritmasters: Pets block attacks, can cast insta stun, and hit for an ok amount of damage,

Hunters: Shouldnt have a pet imo, but pet sucks ass anyways cept for adding another 60-70 melee dmg to them, or interupt someone for them.



This is just my take on realm pets (yes i created this thread cause me kept getting insta stunned and molested by cabby pets) Either ways, what do you think of class pets ? :)
 

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shrooms are good at killing fun!

just great if you're standing an armslength away from a shroom in the middle of a courtyard and get 'you cannot attack your target from here'. So much for nuking/mezzing the pesky little things.

otherwise, givf los-check on pet spells!
 

Umilard

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Albion..

Theurg pets: Great range, very nice for interuppts and ofc for petspamming in PvE
Cabbie pet: Evil 1on1 with chainstun and stuff
Necro: Good in PvE, pointless in rvr

Mid..

Sm: Annoying intercept, great 1on1
Hunter: Good at times

Hib..

Druid: Can interuppt, that's about it
Enchanter: Evil 1on1, both snarenuking and healing one is very good
Animist: Good at keepdefence and PvE
 

Aldrick

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U forgot about bd pets, good in 1on1, interrupttool in fg fighting.
 

sneakies

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aah yea, completly forgot about bd's (its cause i refuse to go bled and get ganked by them so they are a myth ;))

BD: Depending on spec can b a nightmare to kill in 1v1 or rvr. Although RA's also play a role in that imo (PD for example). PvE they do my head in when healer goes sprinting of through walls picking up another 5 mobs worth of aggro.

If specced alternatly i think they can also dish out a fair amout of damage!



As for the enchanter dd/snare thing, ive never seen my pet snare, i feel so denied! :)
 

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Sorry, animists arent a pet class, so sayeth Mythic.

Which is why they lose (up to) 50% of rp and xp earned, have no pet enhancing ra's and are basically shagged in that regards.

youre also forgeting Mentalist (lightspec) for charm and Minstrels charm (is there a mid class with charm?)
 

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To summarise for most of the people who'll post;

Whichever realm they play; underpowered pets, needs love.

Other realms; OP OP Nerf!!

:).

Do agree Theurg spam is nasty playing on other server realms, bad enough in Thid! :p

Although in the same respect a spirit champion that intercepts 99% of the damage frontloaded by my merc with as many interupts used as possible before getting powned is almost as nasty :p
 

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And sorcs, mincers and mentas which got their pick of just about anything.
 

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Sarumancer said:
Sorry, animists arent a pet class, so sayeth Mythic.

Which is why they lose (up to) 50% of rp and xp earned, have no pet enhancing ra's and are basically shagged in that regards.

youre also forgeting Mentalist (lightspec) for charm and Minstrels charm (is there a mid class with charm?)

Bah... I want to see a juggernauted shroom.... then I'd kill it, drag it home, and make soup....
 

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yea i neglected charmed pets as they arent really realm specific :)

but in that respect, any charmer that gets a red con pet.... is evil :)

although i think a menta has it the worst outta the 3 mentioned. And a hunter dont have it very good either. A sorc can lifetap and if things get dire, moc lifetap (ouch), a mincer can insta stun, mezz whilst running (grr?), and a mentalist gets to stand still, DD, or stun. Although before hand menta's used to be able to charm the best pets (which i dont think is true anymore)

But your right, id love one of my chanter pets to get a stun like a cabby pet ;) Would help when a stealther jumps me :)
 

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sneakies said:
Druids: Not very common but pets can stun, or melee. And then the druid can heal enemies to death!
wtf druid pets do what their ment to, an thats to interupt the caster or healer in enemy groups. A good druid knows who to target, an as pet is usually grey most ppl will leave it to annoy the caster/healer its on
 

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Sarumancer said:
(is there a mid class with charm?)

The only Mid class with charm is Hunters, and since their summoned pet is automatically the highest level they can get (at most 40% of your level, i.e. blue con, but also dependant on spec) it's almost unheard of these days for anyone to use it.
 

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Theurg's ice pet spam vs a tower and then walking into the pets works, can't target the caster and definatly can't F8 xD
 

sneakies

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heh, tbph, cabby insta chain stun + lifetap = better than all :)

thats my conclusion :)
 

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Strongest pet is the sm one...

Not that it does a lot of damage neither that it can stun or whatever but it intercepts meelee attacks, making it impossible to kil the caster(often drop pet before the caster)

:m00:
 

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Balthasar said:
Strongest pet is the sm one...

Not that it does a lot of damage neither that it can stun or whatever but it intercepts meelee attacks, making it impossible to kil the caster(often drop pet before the caster)

:m00:

Sm pet can do all that though. Also lifetaps and procs BT. Its 3 cabby pets rolled into one with intercept to boot :<
 

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sneakies said:
Hunters: Shouldnt have a pet imo, but pet sucks ass anyways cept for adding another 60-70 melee dmg to them, or interupt someone for them.

Couldnt agree more, give us shield, more evade or dualweiald imo :)
 

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i hate cabalist pets the most with their insta chain stun, at any range.
2nd worst is the air chainstunning pets.
3d is the sm mega intercept, and stun (not as often as the other 2)
4th bonedancer pets combined with the entire bonedaner is just totally bullshit
5th the druid chainstunning pet, not as often to procc, but still very annoying.

now add on some ml9 stuff and they are even more imbalanced ;p especially the chainstunning ones.
 

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I've about had it with animist pets tbh. Was a few hibs ontop of a bridge the other day, and the main turret hit me out of stealth. I jumped off the top, and into the water at which point I was hit for 2000 points of damage by the other 20 or so turrets. idn't seem to matter that I was out of LoS or range. They fixed this on necro pets last patch so why not animists. Anyway. I release and go back, and this time I get nuked before I even get to the ladder, through the wall. I die, wait a bit. Get rezzed at 15% hp by a friar, and immediately get nuked by the pets again :> 5 hibs managed ot keep 1.5fg albs at bay for about an hour that night, purely due to shrooms. At no poitn could I go within 1000 units of the shrooms without being nuked from stealth, through a wall. Any complaints at buggy theurg pets is nothing compared to these bastards (and I've faced enough theurg pets on mid excal.
 

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Cabby pet stunning+hiting hard > intercepting pet.
Who need intercept when target stunned?

SM pet:Not the top of any ability but instead have lots of abilitys..
Can do alot of stuff..But not as often as other pets. Overall a good
pet thou.

Remeber that some classes dont have as good pets as other but
can have other things instead.

Want to add to recent poster that mid have to fight both thurg and
anim pets.....I CAN whine if i want but as its pointless i wont =)
 

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/sigh hes deffo a hib ^^

All pets are great for interupting in RvR (Specialy FG v FG)

By pet list favs-

1- Sorc pets (2h templar ML9, hits for 800 a swing)
2- SM pets (Intercept and Stun procs)
3- Cabbie Pets (Stun proc)

The rest are only really good for interupts
 

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Aldrick said:
U forgot about bd pets, good in 1on1, interrupttool in fg fighting.


unless they're BA specc.. then those pets acually deal quite good damage :)

but then again.. never seen a BA bony in active rvr. i mean.. why leave the Supp specc semi god mode... :/

yes im a mid, yes im whining at BD's, yes i have one myself.

aaaanyway... to the topic starter.. have u ever been on the recieving end of a chanter and that snare nuke pet? theres absolutly no way u can get away from it. yes it dies fast. but starting to attack the pet is just asking to get stun nuked to death by the chanter itself. pretty much the same goes for all the "offensivly used pets" (not counting necros here) only reason a SM is so good is coz of that intercept.. would be suicide to send that pet to attack anyone while theres someone hitting at u. so most SM's just keep it on passive.
 

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Lokir said:
Cabby pet stunning+hiting hard > intercepting pet.
Who need intercept when target stunned?

SM pet:Not the top of any ability but instead have lots of abilitys..
Can do alot of stuff..But not as often as other pets. Overall a good
pet thou.

I thought SM's have access to a pet which stuns like a caba pet and lifetaps? oO

sneakies said:
heh, tbph, cabby insta chain stun + lifetap = better than all

caba pets can EITHER stun or lifetap amber stuns saffire lt's just fyi. Also see above oO

sneakies said:
Enchanter: Pets suck ass. One casts heals at 50%, 2 cast dd's and die like flies (apparently one casts root, but its never happened for me in rvr), 4th... lets not go there cause its never used its that bad

Chanter pet has that snare nuke thingy which is basicly instawin when your kiting, also healing pets are kinda handy

The reason caba pets hit so hard is they are normaly buffed by the caba since spirit is the most viable rvr spec atm and thats the spec with pet buffs, if you want your pet to hit like a caba pet just buff it.

sneakies said:
Druids: Not very common but pets can stun, or melee. And then the druid can heal enemies to death!

Having a pet on your main healing class is very powerfull since it gives them some nice interupt while they can still be healing. When you compare clerics with druids they are almost identical but druids get root insted of stun (and access to ae root which is amazing for interupt) and pets. On the whole the same at healing and way better at interupt :eek:

SM pets are scareh tho i agree =o
 

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Lokir said:
Cabby pet stunning+hiting hard > intercepting pet.
Who need intercept when target stunned?

Oh come on now, pet with stun proc is pretty nice, but :

1) It's totally unreliable, sometimes, it'll proc twice in a row, sometimes not once in a fight.
2) The stun lasts all of a couple seconds.

The stun proc is real nice to get distance, prevent people from running away, or annoy casters even more than regular interrupting pets, not to keep people stunned and cast uninterrupted. Snowball chance in hell that the pet procs enough to keep a meele toon out.

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On another note, the enchanter nuking pet is casting DD+snare as far as I know, call me stupid, but that sounds rather nice to me.
 

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Roadie said:
I thought SM's have access to a pet which stuns like a caba pet and lifetaps? oO

Well, it procs something at random, sometimes it's a stun, sometimes it's other stuff, in the end it doesn't seem to proc stun often at all, less often than cabby pet at least.

The reason caba pets hit so hard is they are normaly buffed by the caba since spirit is the most viable rvr spec atm and thats the spec with pet buffs, if you want your pet to hit like a caba pet just buff it.

I don't find the stun pet to hit especially hard myself tbh, even buffed, but then I'm biaised. Think it's 100ish a hit on cloth, and not especially fast. Emerald (procs disease) and sapphire (procs lifetap) hurt a lot more.
 

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Cabby pets are out of order. When they fix the stun/range component of it, it will be in line with other pets. Theurgist pets arent that bad to handle really.
 

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Equendil said:
Oh come on now, pet with stun proc is pretty nice, but :

1) It's totally unreliable, sometimes, it'll proc twice in a row, sometimes not once in a fight.
2) The stun lasts all of a couple seconds.

Try being at the receiving end :p
 

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Roadie said:
I thought SM's have access to a pet which stuns like a caba pet and lifetaps? oO
aswere ill quote myself
Lokir said:
Can do alot of stuff..But not as often as other pets
Have u been permastunned by a sm pet??
Thing is sm pets dont proc as often as cabby pet,far from it.
Still a good pet
Snowball chance in hell that the pet procs enough to keep a meele toon out.
get distance and nuke to death.. if not the pet kills whatever trying to go for u.Dont say sm pet is bad just think cabby is better,Dont say sm should have the best pet either .

Abut thurg pets they should get smaler and prevent caster from hide behind em..
 

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