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[old.Eynar_Vega]

Oki, the herald says this:

Minstrel Changes

- Increased stun shout duration to be comparable to other single target stun spells.

I hope I'm wrong, but Mythic simply forgot that they're dealing with an insta-stun, so it shouldn't be comparable with other single target stuns in the first place. What I get from this, is that minstrels will have an insta-stun of more than 6 sec now, with a ridiculous 10 sec recast time??

Nice going there, I'm sure this will raise class-balance to an even level... :doh: :kissit:

 

[Coren]

:kissit:

 

[hrodelbert]

HATS!!! :hat: :hat: :hat:

 

[old.Eynar_Vega]

:mgwhore2: :kissit: :scared: :help:

 

[mavericky]

I understand it to be a 9 second stun that they are getting, but max your body resists and it will be far shorter (which is why it was increased as the 6 second one after resists was too short)

 

[Spinky]

Righteo, on that basis they should make all caster spec dd damage at least 300

 

[spankya]

Omfg, minstrels get longer stun?!! :doh: :help: :help: :help: :help:

Damn I shoulda rolled a mintrel instead of bard.... :wall:

 

[old.Iunliten]

Slam > all.


I would be more afraid if they upped slam stun cause honestly mincer stun will still last sheit, they will at least have time to do the stun mezz trick against non tanks now.

 

[j000 d000d]

Why is the 8 second healer insta-stun on a 10 minute recast timer then? :/

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by Teador
Why is the 8 second healer insta-stun on a 10 minute recast timer then? :/

cuz it goes AE after that, and got 10sec duration.

 

[j000 d000d]

Originally posted by old.Atrox


cuz it goes AE after that, and got 10sec duration.

They're on different timers so it's not the same "line"

 

[old.Atrox]

oh
then it's cuz it's a lvl28 spell.
and 8sec are ALOT at lvl28

 

[j000 d000d]

Originally posted by old.Atrox
oh
then it's cuz it's a lvl28 spell.
and 8sec are ALOT at lvl28

lol yeah and a lvl 28 spell really stick on lvl 50's

 

[old.Atrox]

not that effective but a lvl48 one does.

and FYI my AEmezz are only lvl24

 

[j000 d000d]

Originally posted by old.Atrox
not that effective but a lvl48 one does.

and FYI my AEmezz are only lvl24

But it is lvl24 because you specced it like that

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by Teador


But it is lvl24 because you specced it like that

yes, but I still catch ppl with it.
Healers 28stun are like that cuz of the low lvl, since after that it they get AEstun instead.

 

[PadreMM]

Isn't it the chars level compared to the oppnents level that mainly determines if a CC sticks or not, and not the actual level of the spell?

Dunno, but that's the way I've always thought it works with CC. Perhaps it changed some time ago.....

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by PadreMM
Isn't it the chars level compared to the oppnents level that mainly determines if a CC sticks or not, and not the actual level of the spell?

Dunno, but that's the way I've always thought it works with CC. Perhaps it changed some time ago.....

Thats how Mythic always said it was like.
But in an recent Grab-Bag they told the real deal, and it's spell lvl vs targets lvl.

 

[Nightchill]

Originally posted by old.Atrox


Thats how Mythic always said it was like.
But in an recent Grab-Bag they told the real deal, and it's spell lvl vs targets lvl.

do you know which grab-bag specifically? would like to have a read

 

[old.Atrox]

http://www.camelotherald.com/more/704.php

 

[-mk-]

yay minstrel love

i'm SO going to be a speed/mana/health buffer bot when i hit lvl 50

but i do love the changes they made to our shouts

 

[Artemls]

Originally posted by Coren
:kissit:

:kiss2:

 

[Gimly]

Is it me or do have the mincers out there still not use the demezz that they got awhile back

 

[minstrel_kyra]

Originally posted by Gimly
Is it me or do have the mincers out there still not use the demezz that they got awhile back

I think a few of them keep forgetting they have it, heh. I spam mine when I hear INC!!! I do think however that the emote for it is way lame though.

Oh this stun shout change will be so great!!

But I do think the new song hp buff is a weird spell to add. Why can't we get a shout like the skalds do, running it on a timer maybe like theurgist/wizzie buffs run. That would seem a bit fairer to me and a lot more useful. OR do they WANT a bunch of minstrels as bots?

Also are these things that will defiantely be put into the game or things they are just trying out?

 

[old.windforce]

Originally posted by minstrel_kyra


OR do they WANT a bunch of minstrels as bots?

\
yes

/em wants his own Kyra bot

 

[Coren]

I got demez on my main quickbar. Next to purge. Teehee.

 

[-mk-]

most people don't even notice when you demezz them....

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by mavericky
I understand it to be a 9 second stun that they are getting, but max your body resists and it will be far shorter (which is why it was increased as the 6 second one after resists was too short)

Yeah yeah...PLZ let my healers insta stun have a re-cast timer of 10 sec's instead of a half year

 

[-mk-]

Originally posted by Damon Doombring


Yeah yeah...PLZ let my healers insta stun have a re-cast timer of 10 sec's instead of a half year

please let mincers get insta AE CC

 

[minstrel_kyra]

Originally posted by old.windforce


\
yes

/em wants his own Kyra bot

But hun, you have Zoef!

Seriously though, you know I love going on rvr if I'm not crafting. Just haven't done much because I really really really want to just finish tailoring and be done with it. Plus I have been exploring SI. But never fear, I will always make time for rvr with guildies!