Civilian anti terror equipment

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Good idea or unbelievable ? = http://www.uksurvive.com/

Quote: UK Survive is the UK's leading supplier to the general public of gas masks and Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear protective equipment designed to protect your health in the event of an CBRN incident. You can purchase securely online and protect your whole family.

Maybe a clever idea but the prices are over the top?
 

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Using fear and paranoia to make a buck, don't blame 'em.

In Fahrenheit 9/11, it touches on the sale of personal parachutes that can be bought should you work in a tall building and require to jump out of it after a plane has hit it. I'll bet they made a few bob too.
 

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Blair got us into the situation where we have to worry about this sort of thing so I think that, if we really need it, he should be providing this type of equipment to the country for free. Why should we have to pay incredible prices to keep ourselves safe? Anyway, living in London, if I see the flash, chances are I'm not going to make it out alive whether I'm wearing a gas mask or not. I'll be saving my money I think.
 

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What makes you think him giving it out free would actually be free?
 

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It wouldn't, but I'm sure that he could easily cut our tax money from something that doesn't even benefit us, such as Iraq, and use that money to send out some gas masks to the British people. Or at least to those in threatened areas, such as London and the other large British cities.
 

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Bah! Title got my hopes up.
Started imagining buying my own armoury of flash-bangs and MP5's.
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Dillinja said:
Blair got us into the situation where we have to worry about this sort of thing so I think that, if we really need it, he should be providing this type of equipment to the country for free. Why should we have to pay incredible prices to keep ourselves safe? Anyway, living in London, if I see the flash, chances are I'm not going to make it out alive whether I'm wearing a gas mask or not. I'll be saving my money I think.

I am sorry but how the fuck did blair get us into the situation with Al Queda, that was started due to the first gulf war. Blair has got a lot to be blaimed for but dont blaim him for the start of this whole fucking problem, that goes a lot longer back than Blair being PM.
 

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Ukle said:
I am sorry but how the fuck did blair get us into the situation with Al Queda, that was started due to the first gulf war. Blair has got a lot to be blaimed for but dont blaim him for the start of this whole fucking problem, that goes a lot longer back than Blair being PM.

No. He, along with Bush just took it back to the stage of war.

I doubt I'll ever need a nuclear radiation suit, the nearest reasonably sized town being 20 miles away, and the nearest city being the gods know how far.
 

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Alliandre said:
No. He, along with Bush just took it back to the stage of war.

I doubt I'll ever need a nuclear radiation suit, the nearest reasonably sized town being 20 miles away, and the nearest city being the gods know how far.

Back to the stage of war?

It already was a war before 9/11 let alone this Gulf war, its just that the Al Queda didn't have massive numbers. What Blair / Bush did was give them many more troops due to actions
 

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who gives a crap? jesus if a nuke was coming for us you really think we would know about it until it actually happened? chances are if the nuke was pointed at london you'd be pretty safe living up north.

Unless of course you have really bad luck and the wind pushes the radiation up north..

90% chance is the nuke would be shot to shit over the sea anyway.


Stop worrying stop moaning and just get on with life.

On the Blair subject he could'nt really win could he? if he did'nt go to war then he would be blamed if Saddam started firing nukes..

So he went to war and people hate him? imo he has balls for the choices he makes.
 

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Terrorism didn't exist before Iraq.

11/9, IRA, all a lie.
 

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Ukle said:
Back to the stage of war?

It already was a war before 9/11 let alone this Gulf war, its just that the Al Queda didn't have massive numbers. What Blair / Bush did was give them many more troops due to actions

The fact that there wasn't people shooting at each other and killing (official people from either side. Sadam wasn't a terrorist. He was a dodgey dictator who may have supported some anti US terrorists) makes it clear it wasn't a war at that time.

And I've decided I want one of these. It'd be so cool :p
 

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Saddam wasn't a terrorist? So gassing kurds, mass graves, mustard gas (Iraq-Iran war), invading Kuwait for not paying for his war, missing Kuwaities, assassinating people to get into power, firing missiles into Israel for no reason, destroying oil wells?

These are the actions of a 'dodgey dictator'?
 

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Yep i think most people forget he tortured/killed/raped/sent missles full of gas/starting the first gulf war the list is endless the fact remains he was an evil son of a bitch who needed removing.
 

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One thing i've always wanted to do , is buy a few of those white suits, get a white van with a sliding door, and then have me and a few mates dress up in a suits, with say random plastic cases, radios, clipboards, things that look like measuring devices, and then drive into town during the day and all of us walk together somewhere, i'd love to see how people react when we walked passed them in biohazard suits.

Tilda
 

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Has anyone actually claimed responsibility for the World Trade Centre attack yet?
 

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Disposable chem/bio suits are cheap - can buy a gas mask ex-army pretty cheaply too...

The city area of London is the most likely target - most likely vectors would be an explosive device wrapped around with radioactive materials (a so called 'dirty bomb') - biggest threat from such a device is inhalation of radioactive particles - in high doses causing burns to skin/inflammation of the lining of the lungs causing you to drown in your own fluids - lower doses would prob just increase the chances of lung and associated cancers for years to come...

Another factor is that decontamination would take a long time, be very expensive and would cripple the city for months.

Nerve gas/other chemical agent - Sarin/VX etc. - only really usable in confined spaces and indoors if possible - air currents and in particular rain can defeat these attacks - most likely would be used in the underground system as was done in tokyo or large public buildings - theatres/cinemas/nightclubs etc - advanced nerve agents like these need only tiny amounts to kill a person - mostly by respiration but some absorbtion via the skin is possible with reduced effects likely. Full dose you go out like a light - partial dose leaves neurological damage/paralysis - there are some treatment regimes that can alleviate some of the damage if the patient survives the initial attack.

Other attacks would focus on poisoning the water system (since its relatively easy) or the use of bio-agents although despite the scares these arent particularly effective and with proper containment protocols can be limited to those initially exposed.
 

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We're a bunch of nasty sods, us humans.

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Just follow the sound advice found here.

With such nuggets of information like :

“Do not wait until a fire occurs to think about it. Act now. There could be a fire in your home RIGHT NOW and YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT! LOOK! LOOK AROUND! IS THERE FIRE? HM? IS THERE? DO YOU KNOW?”

Not Duncan Preston, President of the Chief and Assistant Chief Fire Officers’ Association.

How can you go wrong.
 

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that there website Bullit posted said:
You will also be able to order copies of the booklet in audio tape, large print, and Braille formats. We wouldn't have bothered, but Blunkett insisted.

Love it :D
 

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Preparing for an emergency - What you can do

Look, it's an emergency. How are you supposed to prepare for it? It's in the bloody dictionary. " A serious situation or occurrence that happens unexpectedly and demands immediate action." If you expect it, it's not an emergency, is it? Honestly.


Fucking lol. This website is priceless.
 

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Class website! Amazing that they didn't buy the domain as well as the .gov one considering someone was bound to do this... although that would have involved using their brains hardly something civil servants are know for.
 

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*holds Paradroid back*

HE'S NOT WURF IT MATE!
 

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Haha, yes. Very good website. I remember reading about it in the paper a few months ago.
 

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Preparing for Emergencies said:
Zombie attack

The assailants can be stopped by removing the head or destroying the brain. Suitable tools you may find in your shed inclue shovels, cricket bats, and similar items.


heh, read this a while ago...still good, second time around!


Ukle said:
...although that would have involved using their brains hardly something civil servants are know for.


On the contrary, there are many civil servants who are intelligent and some probably saw this coming - whether or not they could do anything about it (like your suggestion of buying domains), is another story (the comedy series Yes, Minister springs to mind). Also, I don't know the full legal context of domain name purchases, but I'd be surprised if Joe Bloggs could buy a .gov domain.

However, considering the weight of your argument, and the finesse with which you've made your point, I can only say that even the lowliest civil servant has a basic grasp of punctuation and grammar! :D

heh
civils servants suck ass! (useless, under-paid, consensus-lovers, restricted by their laws and such!)


:cheers:
 

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I thought the Infant escape pod was class (reminiscent of Supermans - but without rockets). They've missed out on a good marketing ploy too: Pet Escape Pod (or just: Pet Pod). It wouldn't even interfere with your daily routine! You'd be walking along the deserted, post-apocalyptic, streets in your NBC suit, and trundling behind you on a short lead would be your faithful dog, Shep, in his tartan-lined Ped Pod 2000*.





*wheels not included in basic package
Optional Accessories include:
Humvee style chunky wheels, Nodding-Blair novelty toy, Waggy-Tail rear window wipers, and, The Canine-Explorer (NBC suits for dogs - sizes small, medium, and, large).
 

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This one cracked me up..

Schools
If your children are at school you will naturally want to collect them as soon as possible in the event of a major emergency. But it may not be safe to do so. After all, the first place the terrorists hide is in schools! Do you want to anger the terrorists? Do you? Hm? I didn't think so. Stay home.

All schools have plans to cope with local emergencies such as fire and flood, but they're screwed if a bomb goes off. Have you made funeral plans? If not, talk to Frank Windsor, he does a good job pitching life insurance.
 

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