Choosing a weapon

Namon

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Hello everyone, i am quite new in this community and figured i'll make my first appearance here att FreddysHouse.

I play Namon/Namow/Tagged at mid/pry and currently im working on a warrior. She is closing in on level 40 and i am using hammer at this point. Now im wondering if i should use my lvl 40 respec to go sword or axe. I am quite new to ToA and all of its glories so i need someone to help me with this. Is the Battler availiable as all three weapons? I have looked around at several warrior sc templates for ToA and have found out that the majority uses sword, is there a specific reason for this? The warrior will be mostly PvE so no need to think to much about the PvP aspect.

Any help will be much apreciated.
 

Ormorof

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battler is available as hammer or sword afaik...

my warrior is also leveling up and im intrested in this topic too, so gifv replies :D

im sword specced at the moment and quite like it, though im having problems finding decent swords for sale that are slower than 3.5 or whatever :)
 

poisono

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Im using Axe at the moment but im thinking of respecing to sword as im used to having 50 sword on me Skald so would be 50 Shield 50 Sword 29 Parry..... I was thinking about going 43Hammer 50 Shield Rest in parry then Master of Parry and Master of Shielding.


*thinks maybe have to work out Furikuri's template a bit more*
 

Namon

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as a sidenote: do the sword styles still use those silly ballet dancing animations?
 

Darksword

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hammer in my opinion, nice and slow, good styles, and provoke uses very little end - good for solo play if u come up against sum1 in DF or wherever, also hammer looks cooler, and 50shield 50hammer 31 parry if u auto rain i think my warriors gunna end up 50hammer 50 shield 30 parry i think coz i only auto trained 2 lvl 36 for sum reason.

and its mastery of blocking :)
 

Jimmae

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sword, best to-hit taunt in mid, if you're going to be hitting anything level 75+, ie artifact mobs, you want that to-hit.
 

Ixoth

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I concur with Darksword. Take hammer, hands down wins the rest options tbh imho.
 

Namon

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thanks for the answers everyone. talked to a friend ingame and he actually convinced me to go sword. so respec it is! mostly for better to hit and because of ragnarok.

thanks again for all the hints
 

Foadon

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sword is most gimped spec available tbh :p
i went sword out of need since i took battler, with patch i instarespecced back to hammer, hammer got better style, both endwise as dmg wise, better effects on the reactionaries, and provoke
draw out in sword might have high to hit bonus, but theres almost no difference for tohit as provoke, and provoke takes half of draw out end and has nicer dmg
 

Darksword

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Namon said:
thanks for the answers everyone. talked to a friend ingame and he actually convinced me to go sword. so respec it is! mostly for better to hit and because of ragnarok.

thanks again for all the hints

go hammer damn u, ragnarok looks shit any way coz if u had a huge 2h sword u wouldnt swing it like that would u, ud go wtf crazy with it like a ninja would and when u charge into battle u wouldnt carry it on ur back, go hammer!
 

Ormorof

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Darksword said:
go hammer damn u, ragnarok looks shit any way coz if u had a huge 2h sword u wouldnt swing it like that would u, ud go wtf crazy with it like a ninja would and when u charge into battle u wouldnt carry it on ur back, go hammer!


axe > hammer for looks though :wub:
 

Namon

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ok, considering the criterias i set out (mostly pve and not much pvp) i have pretty much come up with this:

sword:
teh ugleh! but good damage and styles

hammer:
looks quite nice and with some good damage and styles

axe:
looks cool but not too good damage and styles

so im still leaning towards sword atm. c'mon guys 'n gals! convince me one way or the other!
 

Iceforge

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Okay, he is one thing I would take in mind too...

All spec-lines are close to each other tbh, when it comes to the final DPS.

Battler is aviable to both Hammer and Sword, so artifact it apperently not an issue, as you sound like it is the artifact weapon of your choise!

Sword is Slahs Damage and Hammer is crush damage, well, this is something to look into!

As a warrior, you will face most of the enemies opponents, so here is some numbers to think about:

With Sword you get
Neutral damage (no reduction, no bonus) vs.
All Albs

Eldrich
Enchanter
Mentalist
Animist
Valewalker

Bonus to damage against:
Hero
Champion
Druid
Warden

Reduction in damage vs.
Blademaster
Bard
Nightshade
Ranger

In hib groups, Bards and Druids are both always present and often both Blademasters and Heroes are there too, so 2 good and 2 bad, and against albs it is all no matter...

Lets look at Hammer then..

Neutral against:

Wizard
Theurgist
Cabalist
Sorcerer
Necromancer
Eldrich
Enchanter
Mentalist
Animist
Valewalker

All Casters that will go down quickly against you, maybe with the exception of Necromancers AND those casters with MoC + Purge + Lifedrain, but they are always a great threat!

Bonus against:
Blademaster
Bard
Nightshade
Ranger
Armsman
Friar
Paladin
Infiltrator

Some heavy armored enemies on this list, like the Paladin and Armsman, and it is good to be able to but that Bard down quickly!

Reduction against:
Mercenary
Reaver
Cleric
Minstrel
Scout
Hero
Champion
Druid
Warden

Argh! Cleric + Druid + Warden all take less damage from your hammer, abit crappy, as they are also good to get rid of quickly, Reavers will become very anoying in 1on1's and Minstrals too!

Well, Basicly, it is all about taste and such, but if you didnt have access to these numbers, they are always good to have in mind ;)

Unless ofc you end up leaving Battler and go Legendary Weapons, where this dont matter at all...

Links:
http://daoc.warcry.com/index.php/content/comparison/armor2

And for LW weapons:
http://www.visionofsages.net/toa/Legendary.html
 

Darksword

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Ormorof said:
axe > hammer for looks though :wub:

give hammer SB, seriously i want 1 :( even considering going staff blade lol :p also respecing back 2 axe coz i dont like sword (new i shoulda gone back2 axe last respec) well now i need a full skill :( (or single)
 

Darksword

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ok simple thing here, sword is essentially very boring, such a cliche thingy 2 use a sword, where as hammer, well how many angry people u see in films with a hammer? and there always the cool ones. also as u say u will b pveing alot well consider ur in DF and a infil attacks ur BB (if u r running with 1?) slam (if it lands :D) and 2h hammer, u get + against alb leather i believe with a hammer, sword gets - i think? (could b wrong) well hammers gunna kill that dirt quicker also with u dont want 2 b twirling around do u? looks stupid, and anyn way theres sumthing about hammer thats, cool :) please go hammer :(
 

Ormorof

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Darksword said:
ok simple thing here, sword is essentially very boring, such a cliche thingy 2 use a sword, where as hammer, well how many angry people u see in films with a hammer? and there always the cool ones. also as u say u will b pveing alot well consider ur in DF and a infil attacks ur BB (if u r running with 1?) slam (if it lands :D) and 2h hammer, u get + against alb leather i believe with a hammer, sword gets - i think? (could b wrong) well hammers gunna kill that dirt quicker also with u dont want 2 b twirling around do u? looks stupid, and anyn way theres sumthing about hammer thats, cool :) please go hammer :(


all alb armor is neutral to slash and some hib ones are weak to slash :D
 

Namon

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thanks for that info Iceforge :)

seems like sword is the best way to go. not regarding the looks tho. man, if sword had some nice animations it would be an easy choice. but now they look shite so it aint :(

however i think you just had me convinced, im going sword at level 40 and see how it works out. the two things currently dragging me towards hammer are the looks (as Darksword so neatly put it :)) and the Conquer style.

regarding the inf attacking my bb in df i reckon a slam and a few ragnaroks down his spine will do the trick.

thanks again for all the info everyone.
 

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