Cheater caught

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Yussef

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Opinions please

Location: DF
Time: 10:30pm-11pm
Offender: A scout

He joined the group and was quiet for a while, eventually we was camping Princess and we couldnt see him about, he was gone for more than 10 minutes, after we had cleared the local area we found him stuck in the corner of a ramp near the archway leaving the Princess section.

A mob aggroed and he suddenly started to attack it, so I suspected he was using cheats or something. We experimented by pulling mobs near him and he would autostick to them and start attacking. If I pulled it out of range he would stop.

We went to kill him by the Princess and he suddenly "woke up".

He said he was playing in bed and thats why he was not speaking. I confronted him about being trapped in the environment and he said "His bed is too far away" and "It sometimes happens"

It seems that he was using combat macros or some crap, we just let a mob kill him and didnt rez him.
 
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Turel Haven

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I was in the group at the time, and it did seem decidedly dodgy :/

<shrugs> No real harm done I suppose, but it's the principle of the matter...
 
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Meatballs

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Everyone should report things like this via RightNow and see if they do anything about it rather than ruin the reputation of a possibly innocent player.:rolleyes:

yes it may look like something, but you can't know all the facts...
 
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tOkfRanZ

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plz?

Yes I did have macros and those were "/macro assist /assist Yussef" makes me target the mob you target. And, "/macro stick /stick" ever heard of those? And as i told you, i was lying in bed playing, watching tv half asleep, pressing the buttons quite frequently. Didnt even take a look at the screen for a while... if ingame macros are cheats. why did they implent them in the first place?

ps. and the fact that you draw agro to get me killed is considered "ruining the gameplay" and is illegal.
I dont think you should post this kind of stuff as it's quite sensitve.. i did try to pm you but i figured you had /ignore Tokfranz on as I did not get any reply.
 
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old.Chavez

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Thats some very very very thin reasoning to call someone a cheater.
 
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old.ivan

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Re: plz?

Originally posted by tOkfRanZ

ps. and the fact that you draw agro to get me killed is considered "ruining the gameplay" and is illegal.

Technically no....
 
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DocWolfe

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lol... I think your too quick to jump to conclusions
 
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Uncle Sick(tm)

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Ahh... so glad I'm not playing on Albion, the lands of bickering, anymore....:rolleyes:
 
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Danya

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Playing in bed makes you get stuck in the environment? That's a new one...
 
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Gimly

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Once again somthing that should have been taken up with rightnow/or Zoo´s GM have made there way to a public fourm.

I have grouped with Tokfranz a few times and found him a good player to group with, ok so I believe he was a little silly for just using macros and not playing the game the way it is ment. As for cheating, for me that is a bit to strong so now as it is you could have ruined the reputation of Tokfranz over a silly thing but in my view not cheating.

Ivan.. technically yes when they new he was afk(or what ever) they should have just disbanded him... to get him killed then admit it is griefing and against the CoC.


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I spell like a monkay on speed :rolleyes:
 
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Yussef

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If you was playing in bed, then how did your bed get too far away suddenly? If you was hitting /assist Yussef then when we disbanded you why did you not react for 3 minutes until we tried to kill you. As soon as I pulled a mob near you when you was stuck you attacked it, WHY did you not move from the environment when we came close to you. Bit of a suprise you came back from your AFK when we discovered you was caught isn't it.

Even if he was not cheating he was leeching, make of it as you will.
 
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Yussef

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Also can someone clarify if I exit combat mode after he /assisted me will he continue fighting or stop when I stop?
 
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Yussef

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Actually we didnt kill him eventually, he got aggroed and we was too slow to react.
 
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slapmesilly..

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rofl you keep changing the story..

Yussef, your accusation is about as solid as the skeleton of a squid.
 
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Danya

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Originally posted by old.Yussef
Also can someone clarify if I exit combat mode after he /assisted me will he continue fighting or stop when I stop?
Assist merely selects the same target as someone else. It has nothing to do with being in or out of combat mode - it'd be pretty useless for casters if it did. ;)
 
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Yussef

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Where did I say we actually kill him, I said we went to kill him, he got aggroed and died <shrugs>

Ok so he was assisting and entering combat mode himself, we was out of range to auto-face him so he was out of /assist range
that means he was aware of being disbanded, caught in scenery and such for ages, he did not react at all, seems strange to me.
 
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old.mattshanes

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Yussef is very thoughtful before he says his actions,tokfranz didn't group with me in mid/excal because i was a "shadowblade" so i thought what a pile of shit.I am sure he remembers that it made me feel annoyed considering he was a hunter.
 
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tOkfRanZ

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yussef

you did say your intensions were to kill me on the screenshots. which now is a g0ner?
 
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Arlone

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best thing to do:

Mail RightNow, tell them what happened and also about what time you were there. They can then check the logfile for any funny activity from Mr.X (Tokfranz in this case I s'pose). I bet they know how to spot the cheaters and I'm quite sure they will get the account banned in a second IF they find any cheating-stuff.
 
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Yussef

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Sure Tokfranz I'll put the links back up. I just admitted we was gonna kill you anyway, makes no difference to me.
 
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old.ivan

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Originally posted by Gimly


Ivan.. technically yes when they new he was afk(or what ever) they should have just disbanded him... to get him killed then admit it is griefing and against the CoC.


I think all they did Gim is refused him a heal or help when he got aggroed :) So its not griefing technically :p Its giving a blind eye per se
 
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Uncle Sick(tm)

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It's a childish thread to begin with.

In dubio pro reo... report it to RN but lets not start badmouthing people until proven guilty.

I do enjoy a good flame or two to keep me warm but the thread is a bit gaga, isn't it?
 
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-Nxs-

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VER VERY VERY weak reason for accusing someone a cheater.

I often played characters while in bed, watching tele, one wireless keyboard and one bed 4 ft from computer and you can lay back and press some quickbar buttons now and then.

Great for a Theurg, and possible with any other player using /stick and /assist
 
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Uncle Sick(tm)

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Originally posted by old.Yussef
Usually get caught in the environment though?

Not that I really care ... but did you actually report it on RN?
 
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Gimly

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Originally posted by old.ivan


I think all they did Gim is refused him a heal or help when he got aggroed :) So its not griefing technically :p Its giving a blind eye per se

Ivan have a look at the links that have been put back on the thread :rolleyes: in them it shows the group talking about getting him killed then hey presto... so yep it´s griefing :p

P.s
See you in Alb land when i get back :D
 
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Yussef

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He gained exp while afk
He was going to lose exp while afk

A succubus did pop on him and killed him, we didnt actually kill him.

Where he was trapped was 3 purples either direction so it was obvious he wasnt at the keyboard like he said.
 
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Uncle Sick(tm)

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Christ's sake... just report him and see what happens...:rolleyes:
 
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