Chantur

[Ckiller]

I was thinkin is it really really necessary to spec 50 20? cant u specc 49 22 and loose out on the last dmg shield but mayby gettin a little less variance?


Are u fcked pve wise without last dmg shield?

 

[anioal]

indeed, best spec for both pve and rvr is 49 mana / 22 light... no point to go for last dmg shield which is a power hog and is not much better than the yellow focus shield.

but, for pve only, 49enchantments / 22 mana is even better.

 

[Awarkle]

i think my chanter is going 34 enchantments 40 mana which should be good enough if it dont work ill go 50 20

 

[anioal]

i think my chanter is going 34 enchantments 40 mana which should be good enough if it dont work ill go 50 20

nah, both your specs are crap, but since you pay your subs you have the right to gimp your chanter as you wish

 

[Ckiller]

Thanks!!

 

[anioal]

Thanks!!

nps.

btw, the focus shield you get with 22mana is good enough to pve with... did battler, malice, som, scalars, etc w/o any problems with 49enchantments/22mana.
not to mention that with cl base buffs, specs from enchantments line and ml9, i pl-ed my nightshade in lvl50 task dungeon really fast.

 

[Everz]

wait a sec.. ck rolled a chanter? haha u op'd bastid xD

 

[Little Boy]

what if he has a bb

 

[Neffneff]

but, for pve only, 49enchantments / 22 mana is even better.

that must take fricken EONS to kill anything.

44 chants, 30 mana
40 mana, 34 chants

2 very good PvE specs, specially without a BB, add CL buffs and it gets pretty silly tbh.

dont go RvR though, you'll just embarras yerself (as i did with the first spec until RR4)

 

[Sarumann]

I had 49 mana 22 light until i was rr8 then went 50 20 so get last dmg shield
If im farming i rather have a powerhog then fooking taking ages and save power wanne get in and out quick

But go 49 mana 22 light ck u can still farm alot with second highest shield

 

[Boni]

50 mana is not needed for rvr 49 is just fine.

Imho 50 mana / last dmg shield IS needed for pve, yep it drains mana, but nothing a fop and a few potions cant take care of. Youll have better dmg output / aggro on pet and therefore can pull larger and more damaging mobs without getting aggro and kill stuff faster. 50 mana rest chantments for a naff dmg add is the win for duo with fopbot.

Oh and to be honest, if your pulling large mobs, dmg add wont really contribute much and the variance from 20 - 22 light is rougly zero so you may as well go 50mana rest light for a dual pve/rvr spec imo.

 

[anioal]

on paper, the lvl22 focus is listed as 15dps, lvl40 as 27dps and lvl50 as 33dps.

this mite be true for killin yellows or low oranges, but as mob level goes higher the focus efectivness goes down, especialy for higher level of focus. and it is this way since the focus nerf in some 1.6x patch

thats the reason why with 22mana the focus shield was doin 65-95 on battler, while with 40mana the damage was somewhere along 77-115.
not exactly from simple to double, eh? bit slower indeed, but not that slow

 

[Boni]

not exactly from simple to double, eh? bit slower indeed, but not that slow

yep, but to me thats all that matters, I dont feel I get any benefit from chantments/light that compares to a small increase in focus damage.

 

[Tuthmes]

50 mana is not needed for rvr 49 is just fine.

Imho 50 mana / last dmg shield IS needed for pve, yep it drains mana, but nothing a fop and a few potions cant take care of. Youll have better dmg output / aggro on pet and therefore can pull larger and more damaging mobs without getting aggro and kill stuff faster. 50 mana rest chantments for a naff dmg add is the win for duo with fopbot.

Oh and to be honest, if your pulling large mobs, dmg add wont really contribute much and the variance from 20 - 22 light is rougly zero so you may as well go 50mana rest light for a dual pve/rvr spec imo.

What he said.

 

[reaveruse]

i found the dif between last dam shield and yellow damshield crap loads

i resently respeced to 50 mana for last dam shield

this reson is

mobs stick to ur pet and hard as well to get em off

all i found that when doing ml1.1 (for immo ring) with my chant druid bb and mana ment ( for red HOT) the hot heals nps with the yellow dam shield u run out of pow well befor the lasdt of the 3 mobs are dead with last dam/fucus shield hes dead on haf my pow (50% pp )

with yellow dam shield u heal say from ur bb mobs agro ur bot from small heals

so ide say go with 50 mana 20 light for best focus shield damage and the little bit extra phoe nuke damage u get

hope this helps

thidy/enter/bbs/bard/ment/ani/creep all but creep 50

 

[Stallion]

I was thinkin is it really really necessary to spec 50 20? cant u specc 49 22 and loose out on the last dmg shield but mayby gettin a little less variance?


Are u fcked pve wise without last dmg shield?

last dmg shield is crap for pve anyway, drags to much power, yellow is what I would use.

 

[Stallion]

i found the dif between last dam shield and yellow damshield crap loads

i resently respeced to 50 mana for last dam shield

this reson is

mobs stick to ur pet and hard as well to get em off

all i found that when doing ml1.1 (for immo ring) with my chant druid bb and mana ment ( for red HOT) the hot heals nps with the yellow dam shield u run out of pow well befor the lasdt of the 3 mobs are dead with last dam/fucus shield hes dead on haf my pow (50% pp )

with yellow dam shield u heal say from ur bb mobs agro ur bot from small heals

so ide say go with 50 mana 20 light for best focus shield damage and the little bit extra phoe nuke damage u get

hope this helps

thidy/enter/bbs/bard/ment/ani/creep all but creep 50

1. if you lose aggro from pet by heals you heal way to aggresive.
2. red drains more power then yellow, yellow is fine because mcl timer resets in time before you go oop

 

[Enli]

red shield, why? simply cause if u go pve, u take all the powergoodies along
EP, Sash, champ/tart staff, 2x mordoms mind, pots, tinderboxes
all this bs about yellow shield is from people that have chanters for both rvr/pve or just rvr
rest of points in enchantments, dmg add etc, why light if ur focussing high lvl mobs, the nukes get resisted anyway only good thing about light is pulling several mobs with that insta

---> out of PvE point of view

 

[Sarumann]

last dmg shield is crap for pve anyway, drags to much power, yellow is what I would use.

Last dmg shield is the rox
If go pve u dont use ur RVR suit ? just put on 75% pp suit n shit u cant tell me that u run oop with that + if u do allways have chamstaff mordoms rp mcl ep
Just like enli said

 

[cmr]

if i rvred with it i wouldnt want to loose 2 levels of variation just so i can maybe pve better

 

[Boni]

Never had a problem with red dmg power drain mah brehon chanter with mcl1, rp1, some pots, hardly uber but enough to keep it up all night long baby.

if i rvred with it i wouldnt want to loose 2 levels of variation just so i can maybe pve better

2 levels of dmg bonus, not variation to be precise. If those 2 levels put you over a dmg variation boundary they would be worth having, but they dont.

 

[Stallion]

never looked on it from a hc pvers perspective, and I dont think thats what ckiller wants. anywho, have been able to farm basicly everything possible with yellow focus shield + mcl2.

 

[Stallion]

Never had a problem with red dmg power drain mah brehon chanter with mcl1, rp1, some pots, hardly uber but enough to keep it up all night long baby.



2 levels of dmg bonus, not variation to be precise. If those 2 levels put you over a dmg variation boundary they would be worth having, but they dont.

if we are gonna discuss variance bounderies, I can tell you. there are none. because it scales up for each point.

anyway not gonna digg myself deeper into this, have had these dicussion over the past 3 years, can just check FH for older post in the topic and you should find them.


49/22 for rvr, works perfectly fine for any kind of PvE

 

[Mckennitt]

What Stallion said.

If pure rvr spec i would say 100% 48-49mana rest light.
If u want to serve both sides ( pve & pvp ) decent enough go 49 mana rest enchantments.
If u want to totally pown the shit out every pve mob existing atm go 44 enchantment 30 mana.

If u got any doubts about the 3rd spec msg me here and ill show you a live example.

Mck

 

[Ckiller]

I dont really give a flyin fuck bout pve the only pve ill do is mls and gettin suit rdy.

Aye i moved op realm and started a QQ stun baby and theyre even more op than i remember Im acctually having a laugh at how easy it is.

Oh well 49 22 it is cos base nuke variance is the shit sofar

 

[charmangle]

1. if you lose aggro from pet by heals you heal way to aggresive.
2. red drains more power then yellow, yellow is fine because mcl timer resets in time before you go oop

Use EP, that way you can afk spam heals on pet with its red dmg shield while watching a movie and still have no problem with the power!

/Charmangle

ps. On a more serious note, yes yellow con dmg shield works in most cases. ds.

 

[Everz]

I dont really give a flyin fuck bout pve the only pve ill do is mls and gettin suit rdy.

Aye i moved op realm and started a QQ stun baby and theyre even more op than i remember Im acctually having a laugh at how easy it is.

Oh well 49 22 it is cos base nuke variance is the shit sofar

haha ;p

i was 50/20 till rr8.. served me well, not much difference on nukes..then respec'd light and the world was a much greater place

 

[Punishment]

50 Mana Dmg Shield got nerfed heavily before Toa release ... it was fucking oped

 

[Punishment]

I dont really give a flyin fuck bout pve the only pve ill do is mls and gettin suit rdy.

Aye i moved op realm and started a QQ stun baby and theyre even more op than i remember Im acctually having a laugh at how easy it is.

Oh well 49 22 it is cos base nuke variance is the shit sofar

Sorc/SM Both far superior to chanter imo , each has 2 types of cc and overall better abilities tbh ... Pbaoe is a very limited tool

 

[Enli]

conclusion from rvr pov
if u wanna be able to farm in pve and/or take part with debuff in assists
then follow this advice and go red focusshield at 50 mana

Last dmg shield is the rox
If go pve u dont use ur RVR suit ? just put on 75% pp suit n shit u cant tell me that u run oop with that + if u do allways have chamstaff mordoms rp mcl ep

if u wanna pwn solo or just nuke really hard, go light and sub mana
(46 light 27 mana, highest nuke and blue debuff)