Casters and spell crafting

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Tilda

Guest
Well ive been playing around with my spell crafting template for quite a while now.

But i have a question for people:

As i caster i cannot decide wheather to cap my melee resists.
My current template allows me to cap the following:
Power
Hits
Con
Int
Dex
as well as capping magical resists, and having a dual focus staff into the bargain.

Should i aim to cut back a little on the con, hits,power in order to cap out my melee resists?
Is it worth it, because most likley if a tanks hitting me im either going to die or get healed.
In both cases melee resists seem unimportant.
I do not believe that it is possible to cap everything.
Therefore as there is no more i can add i cannot decide what should be dropped/lowered in order to make the change if one needs to be made.

On a side note does anybody know where the most comprehensive item archive is, so i can search fpor things that give int and dex and it give me a list of items?

Tilda
 
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Apathy

Guest
I want to cap my con dex and maybe int as far as stats go. Dex and int are already pretty high for me, even with my 5 points in Empathy...

For resists, I'll ignore melee ones and focus on magic. If something is whacking me I have to rely on my spells to get me out of it; I can't just stand there laughing as I get hit for 12(-324)...

Mind you, I don't have more than 4plat across all my chars. :S Time for TANGLERS!

a.
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Tilda

Guest
do melee resists acctually do that much?

what sort of dammage reduction would i get from having capped melee resists?

i definatly need my int capping because as a cabalist my dot dammage is directly linked to my int.

if i dont need to cap mele resists them my templates all done nicley. If melee resists do need capping then ill ned to have a big rethink.

Tilda
 
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Jiggs

Guest
good question, maybe its better to cap your magic resists since capping melee will only mean it takes 3hits instead of 2 to kill you
i'd go for say 15-20% on all melee resists
 
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Tilda

Guest
hehe

This is my config report, 0, 0, 4 melee resists and pretty much everything else that i need is capped.

Anybody got any tips/hints on how to make it better?

Tilda

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Config Report

Stats:
Str: 37 Int: 77 Hits: 202
Con: 76 Pie: 0 Power: 26
Dex: 76 Cha: 10
Qui: 0 Emp: 0

Resists:
Body: 26 Energy: 26 Crush: 4
Cold: 32 Matter: 27 Thrust: 0
Heat: 26 Spirit: 26 Slash: 0

Skills:
1 Body Magic 11 Matter Magic
4 Spirit Magic



Focus:
50 Spirit Focus 50 Matter Focus


Chest:
Imbue Points: 34 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 76%
Gem 1: 7 Energy Resist - 98% imperfect Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 2: 2 Power - 98% uncut Mystic Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 25 Constitution - 98% flawless Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 76 Hits - 98% perfect Blood Essence Jewel
Utility: 53.7

Arms:
Imbue Points: 35 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 66%
Gem 1: 9 Energy Resist - 98% polished Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 2: 2 Heat Resist - 98% uncut Heated Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Spirit Resist - 98% imperfect Vapor Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 11 Power - 98% faceted Mystic Essence Jewel
Utility: 58.0

Head:
Name: Warm Cap of the Construct
Level: 48 Quality: 100
AF: 0 Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 21 Intelligence
Effect 2: 13 Dexterity
Effect 3: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 8 Matter Resist
Utility: 54.7

Legs:
Name: Warm Leggings of the Construct
Level: 48 Quality: 100
AF: 0 Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 22 Constitution
Effect 2: 4 Spirit Magic
Effect 3: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 8 Matter Resist
Utility: 66.7

Hands:
Imbue Points: 36 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 11 Matter Resist - 99% faceted Earthen Shielding Jewel
Gem 2: 11 Spirit Resist - 99% faceted Vapor Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 16 Dexterity - 99% polished Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 1 Body Magic - 99% raw Heated Evocation Sigil
Utility: 59.7

Feet:
Imbue Points: 33 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 66%
Gem 1: 25 Dexterity - 94% flawless Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 4 Matter Magic - 94% flawed Dusty Evocation Sigil
Gem 3: 36 Hits - 94% imperfect Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 13 Intelligence - 94% imperfect Dusty Essence Jewel
Utility: 54.3

Right Hand:
Name: Scepter of Intellect
Level: 16 Quality: 90
DPS: 0 Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 1 Fire Magic
Effect 2: 1 Matter Magic
Effect 3: 4 Intelligence
Effect 4: Empty
Utility: 12.7

Left Hand:
Imbue Points: 0 of 0 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.0

Two Handed:
Imbue Points: 35 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 78%
Gem 1: 5 Power - 99% flawed Mystic Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 7 Matter Magic - 99% faceted Dusty Evocation Sigil
Gem 3: 50 Spirit Focus - 99% perfect Vapor Focus Sigil
Gem 4: 50 Matter Focus - 99% perfect Dusty Focus Sigil
Utility: 47.0

Ranged:
Imbue Points: 0 of 0 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.0

Neck:
Name: Avernal Necklace
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 10 Energy Resist
Effect 3: 19 Constitution
Effect 4: Empty
Utility: 52.7

Cloak:
Name: Infernal Diamond Dusted Cloak
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 15 Intelligence
Effect 2: 9 Strength
Effect 3: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 6 Heat Resist
Utility: 40.0

Jewel:
Name: Infernal Black Diamond
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 10 Body Resist
Effect 3: 18 Strength
Effect 4: Empty
Utility: 52.0

Belt:
Name: Belt of Barbed Scales
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 51 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Intelligence
Effect 3: Empty
Effect 4: Empty
Utility: 22.8

Right Ring:
Name: Prismatic Opal Ring
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 4 Power
Effect 2: 12 Dexterity
Effect 3: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 24 Hits
Utility: 30.0

Left Ring:
Name: Band of IImenite
Level: 50 Quality: 91
Bonus: 25
Effect 1: 13 Intelligence
Effect 2: 4 Power
Effect 3: 8 Body Resist
Effect 4: Empty
Utility: 32.7

Right Wrist:
Name: Veiled Bracer of Eyes
Level: 43 Quality: 100
Bonus: 20
Effect 1: 8 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 8 Body Resist
Effect 4: 15 Hits
Utility: 51.8

Left Wrist:
Name: Black Saphire Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 94
Bonus: 25
Effect 1: 10 Charisma
Effect 2: 10 Constitution
Effect 3: 10 Dexterity
Effect 4: 10 Strength
Utility: 26.7
 
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old.Zeikerd

Guest
Maybe a dumb question, but how do you know the variuos caps? I know there is a resist cap of 26%, but what about con, int, hp, dex? There is a hard cap around 300 for these but, how much can you get with items?
 
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Tranquil-

Guest
+75 is max to each stat.

Though I can't see the reason of not getting +11 body atleast, Tilda. What's your stats?
 
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old.Zeikerd

Guest
Oke, I've also been busy. I like my epic robe too much to drop it, so i tried to take into account. Allthough it isn't listed in the program and you can't remake it exactly.
Code: 
Config Report

Stats:
Str:  39  Int:  46  Hits:  191
Con:  74  Pie:   0  Power:  13
Dex:  75  Cha:  20
Qui:   0  Emp:   0

Resists:
Body:  26  Energy:  26   Crush:   5
Cold:  26  Matter:  25  Thrust:   0
Heat:  25  Spirit:  23   Slash:   0

Skills:
       10 Body Magic        2 Matter Magic
      2 Spirit Magic                      
                                          
                                          

Focus:
       50 Body Focus       50 Matter Focus
     50 Spirit Focus                      

Chest:
Imbue Points: 30 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: 20 Hits - 94% rough Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 13 Power - 94% precious Mystic Essence Jewel
Gem 3:  5 Crush Resist - 94% flawed Fiery Shielding Jewel
Gem 4:    Empty -  
Utility: 41.0

Arms:
Imbue Points: 32 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: 10 Dexterity - 99% flawed Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 22 Intelligence - 99% precious Dusty Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 76 Hits - 99% perfect Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 4:  7 Constitution - 99% rough Earthen Essence Jewel
Utility: 45.0

Head:
Imbue Points: 33 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 87%
Gem 1:  9 Energy Resist - 98% polished Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 2:  9 Matter Resist - 98% polished Earthen Shielding Jewel
Gem 3:  7 Spirit Resist - 99% imperfect Vapor Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 10 Dexterity - 97% flawed Vapor Essence Jewel
Utility: 56.7

Legs:
Imbue Points: 33 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 92%
Gem 1:  7 Body Resist - 99% imperfect Dusty Shielding Jewel
Gem 2:  9 Matter Resist - 98% polished Earthen Shielding Jewel
Gem 3:  7 Spirit Resist - 99% imperfect Vapor Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 16 Dexterity - 98% polished Vapor Essence Jewel
Utility: 56.7

Hands:
Imbue Points: 33 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 92%
Gem 1:  7 Energy Resist - 99% imperfect Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 2:  7 Matter Resist - 99% imperfect Earthen Shielding Jewel
Gem 3:  9 Spirit Resist - 98% polished Vapor Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 16 Constitution - 98% polished Earthen Essence Jewel
Utility: 56.7

Feet:
Imbue Points: 34 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 88%
Gem 1:  9 Body Resist - 99% polished Dusty Shielding Jewel
Gem 2:  9 Heat Resist - 99% polished Heated Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 28 Hits - 99% flawed Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 19 Dexterity - 99% faceted Vapor Essence Jewel
Utility: 55.7

Two Handed:
Imbue Points: 36 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 70%
Gem 1: 50 Body Focus - 100% perfect Heated Focus Sigil
Gem 2: 50 Matter Focus - 100% perfect Dusty Focus Sigil
Gem 3: 50 Spirit Focus - 100% perfect Vapor Focus Sigil
Gem 4:  8 Body Magic - 100% precious Heated Evocation Sigil
Utility: 43.0

Neck:
Name: Avernal Necklace
Level:  0  Quality: 0
Bonus:  0
Effect 1:  10 Heat Resist
Effect 2:  10 Energy Resist
Effect 3:  19 Constitution
Effect 4:     Empty
Utility: 52.7

Cloak:
Name: Infernal Diamond Dusted Cloak
Level:  0  Quality: 0
Bonus:  0
Effect 1:  15 Intelligence
Effect 2:   9 Strength
Effect 3:   6 Cold Resist
Effect 4:   6 Heat Resist
Utility: 40.0

Jewel:
Name: Infernal Black Diamond
Level:  0  Quality: 0
Bonus:  0
Effect 1:  10 Cold Resist
Effect 2:  10 Body Resist
Effect 3:  18 Strength
Effect 4:     Empty
Utility: 52.0

Belt:
Name: Infernal Black Diamond Belt
Level:  0  Quality: 0
Bonus:  0
Effect 1:  67 Hits
Effect 2:     Empty
Effect 3:     Empty
Effect 4:     Empty
Utility: 16.8

Right Ring:
Name: Construct Ring
Level:  0  Quality: 0
Bonus:  0
Effect 1:   2 Body Magic
Effect 2:   2 Matter Magic
Effect 3:   2 Spirit Magic
Effect 4:   9 Intelligence
Utility: 36.0

Left Ring:
Name: Infernal Black Diamond Ring
Level:  0  Quality: 0
Bonus:  0
Effect 1:  12 Strength
Effect 2:  12 Constitution
Effect 3:  10 Cold Resist
Effect 4:     Empty
Utility: 36.0

Right Wrist:
Name: Infernal Black Diamond Bracer
Level:  0  Quality: 0
Bonus:  0
Effect 1:  10 Charisma
Effect 2:  10 Constitution
Effect 3:  10 Dexterity
Effect 4:     Empty
Utility: 20.0

Left Wrist:
Name: Infernal Black Diamond Bracer
Level:  0  Quality: 0
Bonus:  0
Effect 1:  10 Charisma
Effect 2:  10 Constitution
Effect 3:  10 Dexterity
Effect 4:     Empty
Utility: 20.0
Some remarks:
The arms need a 1000+ spellcrafter, I also don't have the 100% qua item yet, others are all in my vault. Some items are not overcharged, some with 1 point and one with 3 points.
I shelved 2P for a 100% qua staff and in the end I'm almost not using all those imbue points because the focus doesn't take any points at all. I also want a tri-focus staff because I hate switching the staff for power reclaiming with a pet and I use matter and body both a lot in RvR. So I end up using one slot for LOADS of points, almost to the max. +7 body doesn't overcharge and +8 overcharges alot. If all gems are 100% the chance to failure is 30%, but I think it will be less. It's one uber staff if I can pull it off.
I almost capped everything except the melee resist. I don't bother with those because I'm going to get longwind 5 ;)
 
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old.Zeikerd

Guest
I didn't look at the other Epic items yet, so it all might change. It's very fun to do :)
 
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k9awya

Guest
dont get power it will only give u like 1 extra spell
 
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Tilda

Guest
umm its easy to add epic robes, change the button from player made to drop and then put all the stats in there.
 
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old.Odysseus

Guest
a) getting +pow is a waste as far as I understand. there were some testing posted on vnboards some time ago and maxing pow gave 1-2 extra casts.

b) the way I figure, an encounter with a melee class ends in 1 of 2 ways; I CC and kill him from distance or he splatters me in 10 sec. Melee resists are thus irrelevant in comparison.

I am going to cap magic resists, hits, con, dex, int, have a 3-focus staff and some +5 windmagic.
 
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Wou

Guest
I personaly think this is the order:

melee resists > magic resists > con & hp > other stats

* melee resists: if you cap 3 resists you get a lot less damage from all figthers, rogue's..

It helps a lot to survive, example: with 0 resist they 2 shot you, with max resist they will 3 shot you, so the healer has 1.5 - 6 sec more time to heal you.
With archers you can run outside there range before they kill you...
( and as a caster your prime archer target )


* magic resist: all none melee resist are magic ;)
But don't take matter and spirit resists
Only shaman and spiritmaster use it, and there are only a very very few of them.
resist table
Very interresting topic about magic resists:C.H.E.B.


* con & hp: let you take more damage


* other stats: you can have 1000 str or int, it doesn't help a thing if your eating grass...


At the moment I have 29 slash resist and 8 thrust/crush resist, and it is a difference like day and nigth.

Btw if you use 99 qua cloth you could overcharge, it has a high chance to succede.
overcharge topic
( wouldn't do this with chain/plate though becouse that will be very costly if it goes wrong while cloth is cheap )
 
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old.LandShark

Guest
short of for PBAErs with MOC, I'd say melee resists aren't a great deal of use for casters. Bear in mind melee resists also affects the damage you take to archers...
 
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belth

Guest
As a sidenote:

Was a note on Grab Bag of Inaccuracy a while back that Cons affects how much damage you take.

With /duel it's testable I guess.
 
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Tilda

Guest
no con on pets is actuall a booses absorb, con on players is acctually a hp's boost.

I have a MP suit and im planning to overcharage every bit of it :D
 
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Cap'n Sissyfoo

Guest
I have a MP suit and im planning to overcharage every bit of it
Click to expand...

~pities the poor f00' crafter who will get blown up making that suit~ :)
 
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Tilda

Guest
rubbish, ;) its been shown on the US that theres acctually VERY little chance of an over charging going wrong.

One person overcharged something so he has a 20% chance of sucess and managed it 1st time. :p

Tilda
 
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K0nah

Guest
drop +power, up melee resists. +25 power is like 1 extra spell or less and it costs alot to imbue it (apparently). whats do casters die to 9/10 times? it aint magik. u get a 10% abs buff which u use i take it? how does a 36% abs buff sound? etc etc

take it from me, dropping ppl like tyka who have maxxed melee resists takes significantly longer than ppl without...

p.s. link to the SC calc proggy please!

EDIT: http://theharms.org/daoc/sc-calc.html <<
 
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Cap'n Sissyfoo

Guest
Awww...it looked like it would add an element of suspense and ... something else to the game.

Me: "Scuse me, guv'nor. Fancy makin' me an 'igh class weapen?"
Crafter: "No problem. What do you want?"
Me: "Got me a noice little dagger 'ere that is wantin' +10 STR, DEX and CHR added to it."
Crafter: "Err...that might be a little dangerous. That dagger is only 76% quality and it might lead to..."
Me: "ERE! Shut it! I is the customer, in'i? The customer is always right, so DO IT!"
Crafter: ~whimpers~ "Okay..."
~BLAMMO~
~Crafter falls to the ground in small bits~
Me: "Don't bother gettin' up, mate. I'll find someone else to do it...perhaps I'll find yer a cleric to pick up yer shattered pelvis while I'm at it."
 
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Tilda

Guest
Ok

Spell crafting stuff:


http://theharms.org/daoc/sc-calc.html

Calculator.
Recommened you put in what you wear atm then take away armour with under 50 utility.

Then try and cap stats with items.
Then finish off stats and resists with SC stuff.
Add your own items, not many are listed.

Tilda
 
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