Caster noob needs eld specc advise

[wuntvor]

Ok, I've played a tank up till now and the world of paper armoured power drinkers is abit new to me so could do with some advise.

I've rolled and Eld and am currently spec'in in mana for the obvious assistace with leveling resons. However I've also been looking at my possible lvl50 spec, an what I've come up with is :

39 Mana (2nd highest PBAOE)
37 Light (2nd highest near sight, 2nd highest DD)

Strikes me as a pretty rounded spec both for gettiing to lvl 50 (specc full mana to 39) and RvR.

However as I said I'm new to the caster world so you eld's out there what you reckon?

Wuntvor (Proud officer of Draconis Alumni) (lvl50 Hero)

 

[Calere]

I would suggest putting a few points into staff and the remaining into handbag for uber offensive/defensive melee styles to aid you in RvR

 

[wuntvor]

Shut it you

 

[oblivion_6]

Im not 100% familar with mana as im a voidie and proud

but im putting my mini pts into light now

Would it not make sense for you to take the pbaoe to its highest level? And then spec light only to half way and get 3rd best stuff?

surely the highest pbaoe is worth that?

I know with void u can take it to 46 and still get light to 26 which is enuff for the 3rd aoe mezz and a version of nearsight (not sure how high or low)

just my 2 cents

 

[wuntvor]

Main reson I was looking at speccing to 39 mana was that top PBAOE requires speccing to 48 mana and to be honest I'm not certain that spending that number of points is worth it to get 1 level higher PBAOE, while heavily sacrficing spec points available to put into light.

 

[oblivion_6]

48 Mana, 24 Light, and 6 Void.

After checking my notes this is better than u think the final pbaoe is significantly stronger than what u would get through taking light a bit higher

With this template you would get the range debuff, a 15 second AE Mez, and a slight Dex/Qui Debuff. Light isnt good for whacking them really at this lvl but then its to help you out with debuffs and mezzes and things for you then to use your mana.

If you Debuff them then 15 mezz em u can run in pbaoe about what 2-3 times then mezz again and repeat

 

[Danya]

50 mana / 19 light...
Your light dd won't be useful unless you fully spec light due to cold resists so you might as well get the top mana snare dd and use that. As a bonus it's energy so less affected by resists than the light nukes and snaring is nice.

 

[old.Charonel]

also that lvl 49 insta str/con debuff is eeeeeeeevul!

remember, that since you "should" be using light as a secondary (because it's the DADDY of secondary specs , you'll still have all of the utility from it at a high enough ability to be usefull, ie you'll get a good enough nearsight ot put enemy bolt casters at a lower range for their bolts than your DD's, enemy archers similar etc.. aoe mezz will be short anyway with the new resists, but what it does is give you two forms of CC for the immunity timer, and enough time to get distance to nuke that tank a bit before he comes up and you stun him etc...

basically one of the things i worried about when i decided to go from the 46void to 50 mana template was secondary speccing, and running out of points, but after looking carefully i've seen that you lose very little indeed from taking mana to 50, all the light spells you'll ever use will be good enough with the points you'll have anyway

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by wuntvor
39 Mana (2nd highest PBAOE)
37 Light (2nd highest near sight, 2nd highest DD)

I would go for one of the 48+ mana rest light specs.

Danyan sounds right about the snare DD being fine for you and
in my experience a nearsight is a nearsight, the level of nearsight is not that important.

 

[wuntvor]

bump

 

[oblivion_6]

why not check out mypetmage.com

I think thats the best guid for casters and talks bout PvE and PvP benefits of each spec

 

[wuntvor]

Thanks for that, checked it out and realised my origonal idea was not taking best advantage of my spec

Gonna go 48 mana, 24 light, 6 void

 

[Danya]

You'll really miss the 50 mana nuke with that spec. Base nukes just won't be as good.

 

[Aussie-]

In my eyes Hibernia has totally gimped themself by making Mana Chanters/Elds and respeccing to it.

If we rush into a hib group i see those gimps already casting without any alb near it.
our scouts and casters just kill you like a fly.
our tanks dont fear you anymore since our respecced buffbot clerics have 2-3 insta heals now and the tanks know they can count on them.

mana chant is usefull, but only to camp things .
without a warden and a rejuv druid I wouldnt even think about leaving to emain.

 

[old.Charonel]

ahh, so were gimping ourselves because when your using buffbots and fighting against moron's who dont realise that paboe doesnt work at bolt range your able to kill casters... kinda not sure about what your trying to say about your skills there

 

[Aussie-]

boehoe, dont start to insult because i called you a gimp.

 

[Danya]

Mana eld has nearsight if specced properly... they aren't gimped at range.

 

[Amadon]

Aussie..

alot of the newly specced mana elds/chanters will take a bit of time to get used to the spec

not sure how u can say hib's mana casters are gimped when most of them are fairly new to the specline

void -> mana is a fairly large change in terms of playing style (since range is no longer the caster's God)

in addition.. I wonder how gimped u'll think we are when u next try a relic raid (unless u've done so since respec and I didn't notice a relic go missing...)

 

[Ensceptifica]

I'm speccing my eld to light, coz I love it so far. Rerolled from a void eld which I found too boring (I don't know about the post-1.52 changes), and I have a bit in mana but for PvE I get kind of bored doing pbaoe. In Thidranki I've noticed I use nearsight, aoe mez, stun and light DD a lot. I'm taking light to 47 for max aoe mez, max dex/qui debuff and max shadowdoom (light DD).

If I'm not teh ub4r mass destruction eld because of it, I don't really care. I enjoy playing heavily on light. And with so many eld/chanters in mana, I expect other realms will soon up their energy resists anyway, so I wouldn't worry too much about cold resists.

My secondary line is mana atm, but I'm still unsure about the respec though; void does look kind of nice with gtaoe and aoe, and nearsight+bolts should give a nice advantage. The resist debuffs seem nice too, but them being single-target I doubt you'd have time to get em off (seeing mages are often the primary target) and still do some damage afterwards.

 

[old.Charonel]

the nearsight and aoe mezz etc... is the main reason why i was initially torn between mana and light for respec, but after looking a lot i can't help but see that you get the nearsight and aoe mezz etc... (ie the light utility spells) to a usable lvl anyway regardless of whether you spec it as primary or secondary, i went mana because there's a huge range of utility there, and it's allways fun to stun greyccon and unload a scary amount of debuffs onto them before running off

still, spoken to a light eld before who said it was really interesting to use, having not tried it myself i can't say, but i'm enjoying mana a lot more than i did void , just a laugh snare dding purp con lvl 50 tanks and kiting them, knowing full well that they're almost sobing at the chance to gank a grey (green maybe ) con caster and seeing the chance fly straight out the window for no other reason that they can't reach them

needless to say though it takes a while (understatement) to kite a lvl 50 armsman to death with snare DD as a lvl 36, but can be done, buggers are never solo though

 

[Aussie-]

Originally posted by Schizoid


in addition.. I wonder how gimped u'll think we are when u next try a relic raid (unless u've done so since respec and I didn't notice a relic go missing...)

. GTAOE .

wannabeegobarnachtas.
you'll eat alot dirt. hf with the gimp spec.

 

[Novamir]

Originally posted by Aussie-


. GTAOE .

wannabeegobarnachtas.
you'll eat alot dirt. hf with the gimp spec.

oh we are so scared of your wizards with 50 dmg per 6sec on casters with their l33t m0f0 level 18 gtaoe, when our pbaoers have MoC.