Cast speed

[Ballard]

Let me lead this with a prefix: I am familiar (or at least I thought I was) with how fast casters can nuke, I have an alt Luri with 390 dex and 10% cast speed..

However last night I was genuinely surprised, In one fight I was splintered from my group with grawen next to me. He started nuking me. I was close to dieing when i hit the druid RR5. This effectively gives 5 seconds where all damage is converted to healing. After this ran out I died, but what surprised me was when I read the logs of the fight was that while under rr5 and being immune to damage, I was nuked NINE times for 0 (-450 dmg) by grawen. Given that the rr5 lasts 5 seconds, that works out to close to a .5 second cast time.

What is the delve cast time of the nuke that allows such rapid casts? On my luri if I use base nukes I can get very fast cast speeds but still no where near that speed (at least as far as I can recall, If other luris are getting such speeds it must be my faulty memory).

 

[Nul]

Hello

Perhaps u have +% spell duration?
Perhaps it was lag that stacked the nukes and went off much faster.

I sometimes experience cast speed to be faster than it should too...

 

[rure]

I'll bet you a drink or two that you missread or something and shadowz assisted grawen and nuked you to

 

[Nul]

btw, dex cap is 400 right?
Saving for aug dex 5 for my WL. Gives me 383 dex. Need it bad since
cast timer is 4.3s....

 

[Ballard]

No I definetly did not misread. I checked it three times. all nukes were by grawen and all the nukes would have hit for roughly 450. Each one was clearly followed by the '450 of this damge is converted' message.

I guess lag is a possibility but then I did not experience any all night.

EDIT: On second thoughts, the rr5 probably kicked in right on the first nuke, so the cast time form that nuke wouldnt have been in the 5 seconds. 5 / 8 = .625 second cast time then. What is the delve cast time of the main SM nuke? sorry only have limited web access at work..

 

[Ocalinn]

No I definetly did not misread. I checked it three times. all nukes were by grawen and all the nukes would have hit for roughly 450. Each one was clearly followed by the '450 of this damge is converted' message.

I guess lag is a possibility but then I did not experience any all night.

EDIT: On second thoughts, the rr5 probably kicked in right on the first nuke, so the cast time form that nuke wouldnt have been in the 5 seconds. 5 / 8 = .625 second cast time then. What is the delve cast time of the main SM nuke? sorry only have limited web access at work..

Grawen is darkness spec iirc so he uses the spec lifetap, it has 2.5s cast speed

 

[Ballard]

I do have some spell duration aswell but i didnt think it would effect a realm ability?

Anyway I know i should have taken a SS, I guess there is a chance I made mistake somewhere along the line. I know its not possible with a 2.5 second delve thats for sure.

 

[Kathal]

btw, dex cap is 400 right?
Saving for aug dex 5 for my WL. Gives me 383 dex. Need it bad since
cast timer is 4.3s....

Hmm. Aug dex5 for a WL is kinda fubar. Are you rr12 or something

 

[Nul]

Hmm. Aug dex5 for a WL is kinda fubar. Are you rr12 or something

hehe. No. Planning to get that at rr5L0-rr5L2 something.
I like to have fast powerless and use chambers only to interupt or boost damage. (Im 28/46 spec) Down side is I cant afford purge in some time bcos
I need MoF, WP an MoM as well. Atm I have augdex4, MoF2 and WP2 or 3.

 

[Konah]

haxxx!

 

[moik]

Grawen is cheating, obviously. Damn crooked Groove, bugusers and cheaters the whole bunch!

 

[Ging]

My inconnu body sorc has 402dex (aug dex 4) + 10% cast speed. I two shotted a reaver (unbuffed) in around 1 sec or just under yesterday when pissing about at CS. Problem is that the 2nd (+ following) nuke(s) takes (or appears to take) less time to cast than the intial nuke. In 5 sec from time first nuke lands I can conceivebly land 6 nukes - but 9 nukes I would say is pretty impossible in 5 sec.

The only thing i can think of is if he bolted, dd, dd, dd, dd, dd, bolt, dd, dd in that time, as a bolt and dd would concivibly land at the same time. Still its pretty increadible to believe all that occured in 5 sec.

 

[eggy]

My inconnu body sorc has 402dex

Ah nm

 

[Belomar]

The only thing i can think of is if he bolted, dd, dd, dd, dd, dd, bolt, dd, dd in that time, as a bolt and dd would concivibly land at the same time. Still its pretty increadible to believe all that occured in 5 sec.

Plus SMs don't get bolts.

 

[Chap]

I do have some spell duration aswell but i didnt think it would effect a realm ability?

Anyway I know i should have taken a SS, I guess there is a chance I made mistake somewhere along the line. I know its not possible with a 2.5 second delve thats for sure.

duration does affect RA's

 

[Ging]

Plus SMs don't get bolts.

Bah i was thinking ofr Aramoose for some reason.....

 

[Zeratuhl]

Grawen is darkness spec iirc so he uses the spec lifetap, it has 2.5s cast speed

2.0.

 

[Lethul]

2.0.

no, 2.5. like all lifetaps.

that means that cap castspeed on lifetap is 2.5 * 0.4 = 1.0 second casttime.

 

[Divinia]

there's no hardcap @ newkz.

 

[Chronictank]

there's no hardcap @ newkz.

there is a hard cap on spells, the lowest you can go is 40% delve (which lethal shows above)

easiest way to disprove me would be to start a log cast a few spells to show the speed

 

[Stallion]

hmm not gonna read all replies, but his first nuke could have landed as oyu pressed it, giving him a free one during your first 5 seconds..but for instance with 2.5 spd spell he cant cast any faster then 1 second/spell..
40% of delve is cap.

 

[Belomar]

2.0.

Wrong (wow, the guy even has an RR5 SM).

 

[noaim]

I didnt count, but yeah felt like many nukes. I thought I´d keep nuking you there since I landed 1 without seeing effect, then didnt managed to interrupted the second even tho I strafed a lil to the side, and by then you had full hp so thought might aswell land a few more nukes then kill you fast since you were pretty alone there. But that damn rr5-thing never seemed to end.

393 dex and 10% castspeed btw, I dont even think I reach the cap with that.

 

[Ballard]

Yes staj, the first one landed on using rr5 so I have excluded that one in my last post/calcualtion. If as another poster has pointed out spell duration adds to the duration (possibly also rounded to the nearest second or half second aswell) then the numbers are starting to look alot closer to what I would expect.

I do know the delve rules regard cast speed thats why I was surprised. I was watching him the whole time and he appeared to be casting fast yes but not increadibly so. It was only when I looked back on the log that I started wondering what was going on. Who knows it could even be a log -> rr5 issue...