BW Admin detecting me as a bot

[old.Commienst]

BW admin is detecting me as a bot and it is really starting to piss me off. I posted about this to the forums at planetquake a long time ago and alot of them said that it was because I was using Internet Connection Sharing. Well I finally bought a router and it is still happening. Anyone know anything about this they would care to share?

 

[old.deathisme]

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how do you connect to the net? what is your hardware and what is your isp?

death

 

[old.Commienst]

My connection and stuff

When it first started happening to me I had dsl. Back then I used Internet Connection Sharing to share my dsl between my two computers. Then I got a cable modem through Optimum Online and it continued to happen. I was still using ICS with the cable modem. Now I finally bought an SMC Barricade router and I still get falsely booted off servers for being a bot every now and then.

 

[old.deathisme]

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im not familiar with irc sharing, unfortunately.

iv'e got 3 computers sharing my DSL connection and all i have for that is:

1. 1 host computer
2. 4 port hub
3. each computer gets its own ip, off the same dns. example:

xxx.xxx.x.10
xxx.xxx.x.11
xxx.xxx.x.12

possible probs are the IRC proggy your using, any proxy software you might have and any type of client software that pings the server.

death

 

[Manic Miner]

how often is every now and then?

also are you sure you're being kicked for being a bot?

bw-admin kicks for several other reasons including skin changing, fps changing, msg mode 4 (a lot of people use msg mode 4 in best weapon binds), false ping readings (i.e. faking zero ping, but this can happen without being faked).

also some mods and bw-admin don't go well together. i know with tourney and bw-admin if u try join as soon as a map starts it will kick u for being a bot.

also i know of a bug where bw-admin will kick u for being a bot if you change your name during the connect phase.

also bw-admin does do false jitter detects, especially for people with high sens settings.

if u're not kicked almost everytime then i would suspect it would be one of the above rather than any thing else.

regards,
manic miner

 

[old.Commienst]

thanks man

I do use a high sensitivity, 12, I used to have it even higher at 15. I think it may be for jittering when I rocket jump I do jitter alot. The mod I play is rocket arena. I am not kicked all the time, but enough for it to really really tick me off. Personally I feel that the bw admin bot protection does more harm than good. When I see real bots on the server they are never kicked. I see stuff like people chaining to death 5 people with their measily 200 ammo and they do not get kicked yet I do. I also have chasecamed bots that jitter real bad whenever they fire a shot yet they never get kicked or detected as a bot.

 

[Manic Miner]

yerh, the new bots use much lower fovs so white fangs jitter detection (included in bw-admin) doesn't pick them up.

i think it's desgined to pick up large swings in aim that the older zbots used to do.

i suppose actually a scripted rocket jump might make bw-admin think this is the case. if it is scripted, then learn to rj without it - you get a lot more control

bw-admin has become a bit static recently as the coder has moved onto other things. the only real bot protection out there now is matchmod or q2admin - both which include a reconnect feature which prevents proxy bots from connecting to the server (i.e. the modified modified ratbot that's been around since feb this year

to see what i mean try connecting to 195.149.21.38 which is a q2 server i run (it's an instagib server so needs no mod downloads).

i think it would help the quake2 comunity a lot if we could petition a decent update to bw-admin to include the reconnect feature from q2admin.

 

[old.Commienst]

No, I do not use an rocket jump alias.