Bullying tactics, threats of libel - any legal/journo minds here?

[Damini]

An Open Letter To Gorezone Magazine lets get dangerous_

A friend of a friend wrote this post online. I've never read Gorezone, so I have no vested interest in his opinions either way. What I do find interesting is the mob response, threats of DoS attacks, references to getting "smacked in the lips", legal threats being bantered about, and quite general obnoxiousness. What's interesting is that I can't trace any public link to the thread from gorezone, so can only assume its being orchestrated privately.

Curious as to what you guys think? Should someone's opinion on a blog be subject to such a response? Why on earth would a magazine that alleges to have such a wide readership retaliate with such a heavy handed approach?

And why the hell is someone pretending to be legally "tort"?

And this made me laugh:

"The nicolas cage article has not one tit or ass picture"

Thank fuck?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well, first; "Now, I am not one of these guys who gets all heated about grammar and spelling but come on, this is just ridiculous" is silly with that spelling and grammar. If someone wants to be a grammar cop, be sure yours is perferct to the dot.

Second; it does like a bit of a feminist rant, especially with the genre in mind. It just does, especially the end.

Third and maybe msot towards the topic; there's no comment there that isn't topped by comments on FH.

 

[Bugz]

Grammar looks fine in that sentence you quoted - maybe the comma after now isn't really needed but considering it's a letter, I'd say it is warranted.

 

[Calaen]

Grammar looks fine in that sentence you quoted - maybe the comma after now isn't really needed but considering it's a letter, I'd say it is warranted.

Hows about this in his first paragraph

Firstly well done for have a glossy and fairly nice looking magazine that has managed to stay afloat during in a climate almost designed to make just that very difficult. It is definitely an achievement that a niche magazine has kept on keeping on, and I salute that.

 

[Bugz]

Okey so the grammar on that sentence wasn't perfect

 

[Zenith.UK]

I had to admit that I skim-read most of the comments but it seems to me that it is only 4-5 posters stirring up mischief. The one that keeps posting a standard cut&paste is obviously not a law student because they use the word deformation instead of definition as well as poor punctuation.

Then again, lawyers and legal types are on a par with politicians IMO.

 

[Ch3tan]

It's incredibly amusing that nearly every negative response or threat has bad spelling and grammar. What more proof is needed that the magazine's editor is all of these people?

 

[rynnor]

I quite liked the review itself and what he says is true of much of horror but the comment flamewar is kinda unusual for a critical review.

I think the idea that its one person behind much of it is no doubt true - probably the editor...

 

[ST^]

Should someone's opinion on a blog be subject to such a response?

You can't post stuff like that and not expect a few people to disagree.

 

[Damini]

Disagree, sure. Threats of legal action? Threats of bringing down the website? Talk of getting bone cancer, smacked lips?

Like I say, I've never read Gorezone. I have no idea whether it's a literary masterpiece, or filled with grammatical errors. What does interest me is the rammifications if you are not allowed to critique a publicly available magazine.

 

[rynnor]

Like I say, I've never read Gorezone. I have no idea whether it's a literary masterpiece, or filled with grammatical errors. What does interest me is the rammifications if you are not allowed to critique a publicly available magazine.

You cant get sue'd over a bad review done in good faith - theres nothing actionable in the review - hell it was even constructive.

It certainly brought out the nutjobs - he should just close it for comment.

Edit - I wonder if anyone has bought the domain gorezoneisshit.com?

 

[Chilly]

The one that keeps posting a standard cut&paste is obviously not a law student because they use the word deformation instead of definition as well as poor punctuation.

Defamation?

 

[yaruar]

Disagree, sure. Threats of legal action? Threats of bringing down the website? Talk of getting bone cancer, smacked lips?

Like I say, I've never read Gorezone. I have no idea whether it's a literary masterpiece, or filled with grammatical errors. What does interest me is the rammifications if you are not allowed to critique a publicly available magazine.

Sounds like most of the 14 year old fanboy trollfests out there on the internet.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

TBH this is what you get for giving everyone the ability to have their say, proof that that most people out there just talk out of their bums.

The one claiming to be a law student is the finniest though, their inability to distinguish between libel and slander and confusing Copyright and Trademark (and being wrong about the context anyway) just brings the Lulz.

 

[rynnor]

I think we should start an internet campaign to have the magazine banned on grounds of public health as it clearly reduces the readership to gibbering humourless imbeciles.

Possibly caused by the juxtaposition of poor grammar and boob pics - aha - I think we may have finally explained the Daoc Off Topic community

 

[Arnie 2Tone]

I think my favourite comment was the one about reporting his post to the 'cyberpolice'. If that wasn't trolling, society is doomed.

 

[Bugz]

Possibly caused by the juxtaposition of poor grammar and boob pics - aha - I think we may have finally explained the Daoc Off Topic community

slander!

 

[Jupitus]

I just read the whole lot and think it's hilarious... I really don't think the blogger has anything to worry about from that bunch of idiots ..

 

[old.Tohtori]

Okey so the grammar on that sentence wasn't perfect

Well yes i did mean the whole thing

 

[Arnie 2Tone]

I like the assertion from another supposed law student on there that you need permission to even write a brand name on the internet. That made me laugh. So if I write 'Coca-Cola' in this post, I can get sued? Maybe Pepsi will help me with my legal bills? Except now they can sue me too! Oh noes!

 

[rynnor]

I like the assertion from another supposed law student on there that you need permission to even write a brand name on the internet. That made me laugh. So if I write 'Coca-Cola' in this post, I can get sued? Maybe Pepsi will help me with my legal bills? Except now they can sue me too! Oh noes!

I like Lisa - she doesnt seem to realise the UK is a country seperate from the US that just might have its own legal traditions and laws

 

[yaruar]

I like the assertion from another supposed law student on there that you need permission to even write a brand name on the internet. That made me laugh. So if I write 'Coca-Cola' in this post, I can get sued? Maybe Pepsi will help me with my legal bills? Except now they can sue me too! Oh noes!

OMG u luzer i'm telling on you to the cyberlords, i've got a pHd in lawering and that's totally deframation of characters and cock-cola will totally lose dollars bcause 5 peeple red that you asshat.

 

[Damini]

New favourite quote:

"Let the ass get an ass licking!"

Erm... Do you mean kicking? Or do you genuinely want him to be rimmed?

Anyway... Being SECRET DETECTIVE LADY, and having a vested interest in writing styles, I've compared grammar glitches, spelling mistakes, and so on, and think I can safely identify at least seven identities in that thread that all belong to the same person. Lolz. And also, tragic.

 

[Arnie 2Tone]

In the interests of full disclosure, it was me who posted as 'The Cyber Police'...

 

[Arnie 2Tone]

This is good for a chuckle:

Here is a list of all the commenters posting from the same IP address, this list may shock you, or it may not.

GZ Reader
lisamaria
DEMON DAN
Jesse Metcalf fan
Nathan Brown
Liam Jones GZ 4eva
lee
666
callum
stabilo
EB
rob
Jenny B
Kerry Jones
BRYN HAMMOND

Comment by dangerousjamie February 19

For those of you that haven't read the full thread, Bryn Hammond is the editor of Gorezone. He apparently doesn't understand IP logging, or how easy it is to use a proxy.

 

[Damini]

Hah, Jamie has IP matched now... So the editor is also ALL the other identities? And I guess it really is the editor, since the other people who write for the magazine who have posted have not refuted it is him?

Now it's interesting.

*Makes popcorn*

 

[Arnie 2Tone]

Hah, Jamie has IP matched now... So the editor is also ALL the other identities? And I guess it really is the editor, since the other people who write for the magazine who have posted have not refuted it is him?

Now it's interesting.

*Makes popcorn*

It's either ALL the editor, or people on the office network. Either way, if they'd ignored this blog, they'd have been far better off. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

 

[Damini]

From the writing styles, I had already pinned seven of those names down as being the same person, Bryn included. I don't think it's just the case of using the same network.

 

[taB]

They're all class 1 morons whatever the case

 

[rynnor]

Its either hilarious or desperately sad

I think he shouldnt have used the cover shot without permission but seeing as he removed it promptly and is a penniless student not even the most rabid copyright lawyer would really consider a claim against him.

If anyone was stupid enough to sue he could probably get help from actual law students who could raise about a million precedents to drive up the costs to a massive degree and then laugh if the judge awards the other party costs

 

[Arnie 2Tone]

I think even the cover was fair game. I've only studied a bit of law, and didn't really cover copyright law, but the UK statutes I've read would suggest that for the purposes of criticism, putting up a pic of the cover is fine provided it's already been made available to the public and the source is acknowledged.