Bugged respawn at excalibur

[-optical-]

I dunno whether the Albs even know we just made an attempt to take back thors hammer but it failed due to a fucked up respawn.
There were a constant flow of uber guards running out of the keep only seconds after we had killed the first bacth a new one would appear.
There were easily enough high level mids there to dispose of the guards but for some reason the guards kept coming.

 

[Aussie-]

no, all the guards are just inside now....

noticed it too

 

[Lambsbreed]

This was just plain silly. Kinda makes relicraids totally impossible to get through with. 60+ highlevel mids should _not_ be wiped out by guards and guards alone. we did perhaps 5% damage to the doors then we were all dead. IF this is supposed to be impossible like it is now, then wtf didn't all the relics get split evenly throughout the server before they made these changes.

Now albs will have 3 relics and be pretty damned sure they don't loose it. The hibs will have 3 them too.. and what does Mids have left? you guessed it: nothing. and there is nothing we can do about it.

 

[old.¥ØÐÄ]

want some pie ? and yes relic raids are much much harder now . faster respawns etc etc . uber guards are supossed to respawn and costhey spawn all around keep kinda hard for you to ignore them . unlike the old times when u could kill them once and then they would respawn bottom of the hill and not aggro unless u went in range . as for resetting relics . hib/alb worked for our relics wether it be late at night or primetime . anybody who thinks resetting relics and taking them away from the realms who managed to take em is unfair . just showsmids will have to be extra carefull when planning raids

unlucky anyhow and im sure mids be knocking down the doors sometime soon again . or at least trying

 

[katt!]

Would you like some cheese with that whine? T_T

 

[Eblessair]

its not impossible, it just requires a bit more planning than ZERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRG EM!

 

[Herbal Remedy]

points to eblessairs post and looks at the carpet of dead hibs bodies at excal - zerg seemed to do just fine fine ty

 

[Garnet]

to do this you will either need 200 ppls at least or you take most of the outposts to remove some of those uber guards. Also BTW more guards have been added - Garnets sees 10 fireballs shooting from the roofs, what do you know they have put about 10 master wizards on the roofs each shooting 2 fireballs at you hitiing for about 250 per bolt. GOA better sort the uber guard spawn out soon as its ridculous, they like when you kill them they instant spawn in the keep and attack you again, its pathetic.

 

[old.Leel]

I think it's kinda silly that they made it much harder to take relics without resetting them though. Those that got their relics before patch got lucky, those that lost them now find them much harder to take back. It's a GOOD thing that they made the relic keeps harder though. It was too easy before. I just think that the playing field should be leveled when doing those changes.

 

[nicky-nook]

Easy when you know how and after one failed attempt we know how it should be done looks bugged and looks hard but it isnt..

Regards Nicky Taking your Relic very soon ...PM that is ..

 

[Vireb]

Originally posted by -optical-
I dunno whether the Albs even know we just made an attempt to take back thors hammer but it failed due to a fucked up respawn.
There were a constant flow of uber guards running out of the keep only seconds after we had killed the first bacth a new one would appear.
There were easily enough high level mids there to dispose of the guards but for some reason the guards kept coming.

hahahaha i just came up with a really sic idea skald and healer in grp aoe mez ALL guards then run like feckkkkkkkkkkkk no on ehits guards soall aggro is on skald and healer , no respawn couse guards havent died i know it wont work was just a sic magic moment

 

[Sabu]

Originally posted by old.Leel
I think it's kinda silly that they made it much harder to take relics without resetting them though. Those that got their relics before patch got lucky, those that lost them now find them much harder to take back.

I agree 100 %

 

[Tigerius]

Originally posted by old.Leel
I think it's kinda silly that they made it much harder to take relics without resetting them though. Those that got their relics before patch got lucky, those that lost them now find them much harder to take back.

While it's true what you say there's yet again the issue of the work we put in at getting and keeping those relics. To just swipe that in 1 big blow and at the same time make it much harder for us who had them to reclaim them. There is no good solution.

Secondly, this change isn't shocking or unheard of. I amongst others were aware something like this would happen and if I had wanted more relics I would have made sure to plan my attacks before the patch. You've had your chances to retake them under "normal" circumstances, it sucks to have this brought on you now but Mid has been the 0 relic realm for so long and it has nothing to do with the patches.

 

[Lambsbreed]

Originally posted by Tigerius


You've had your chances to retake them under "normal" circumstances, it sucks to have this brought on you now but Mid has been the 0 relic realm for so long and it has nothing to do with the patches.

Yes i know, but considering that it was damned hard to take relics before this patch. and we all know that it's kinda impossible to raid defended relic keeps, so this change making it 10times harder to do it doesn't really motivate the mids to do any serious attempts anymore. atleast i myself will not try to arrange any raids again as it seems pointless just to get through the guards... Imagine how much more impossible it is if we even get to try on a playerdefended relic.

I don't want to point any fingers at anyone, but i know that albs have a good routine spotting relic raids, and if we even half-way get spotted, it will be impossible to do it.

Allso, how often do we actually get 150+ people on a relicraid wich seems neccessary to the least to break through the guards.
Noone will ever bother playing with 0.5fps as it's no fun at all.

 

[Novamir]

i agree it is unfair on mid that the relics will now be a lot harder to take back, however, resetting the relics would be just stupid.

 

[old.lewstherin]

the only solution now is to take keeps and look like its just entrence to the DF... 3 keeps or so can make a differnence..

 

[old.Mobstomper]

Yes yesterday the guard respawn was just stupid (. I will think twice about going on a relic raid now just to get mown down by 15 uber guards hitting my iccle cloth armour.


Make it harder yes, Impossible no!

 

[old.DachraK]

Well i admit it has gotten tough now (was killed twice by a Master Wizzard) but not impossible. We had first door down and 2d on 80% when albs arrived. We killed most of them but during that a new pop came and the losses of the battle with the albs was a bit too much and we got wiped out. Getting to the relic unseen seems to be even more important now.

 

[old.Mobstomper]

oh yeah who was that stupid alb caster hitting me for 20 lol, I was gonna put a nuke your way untill 2 purp guards decided to target the iccle kobbie (

 

[Eblessair]

Originally posted by Herbal Remedy
points to eblessairs post and looks at the carpet of dead hibs bodies at excal - zerg seemed to do just fine fine ty

 

[mele-nko]

I don't think relic should be reset, although it might seem more fair towards the mids.
I know that alot of mids had secretly been hoping for a reset, so no1 even bothered anymore, now that this was not the case we will just have to put a little more effort into it.

It did become a lot harder, so to take a relic u will need atleast a couple of keeps to be taken first..or a REALLY massive army.

I read on the ignvault boards about a raid on 1 of the US servers sometime ago, where a plan was executed perfectly: they had different groups and all keeps were taking at the same moment ( less then 2 minutes difference ) and the main group, alrdy a the relic, had started there first attack the second the 3th or 4th keep felt, then the keep take group rushes to the relic and helped the main group. The conclusion was a relic taken on the diffuctly setting we are on now, on primetime

OKNP~~

 

[old.Second]

looool never seen so many mids whine=) should start their own whinery

sell some good wine from the north

and with this amount it should be for a good price too

 

[old.Miss]

<Miss slaps Lewstherin with a big large trout>

 

[Khalen]

I'm thirsty.. anyone got some lickor?

 

[herjulf]

Well considering the extreme change on difficulty on Relic raidig now.
A RELIC RESET is called for.

This isnt a slight change it is an extreme change it is like changing.
A Relic reset is fair way.
After all ALBS and HIBS u cannot sit there and say it is hard work defending it and certainly not hard taking them.

U stole them nighttime, alb is known to have 30 lvl50 alts logged in excal rdy to log in daytime at sign of danger.
So it isnt really hard is it.
So reseting relics and letting the realm fight at even terms is the answer.

Come on 60+ mids lvl45+ some odd lvl43+ healer where there but that is all. And get uber ganked by guards.
omfg, come on hehe.

 

[Rhuric]

Well not untill I hear it from Sub or Ebeneezer that the relics are impossible to take, then I wont take these whines seriously.

And at the rate keeps changing hands it isnt really easy to know if it is a relic attempt or not (but lucky we have some dedicated ppl who go out and take back keep all the time, sorry ppl for lifting my ass out so late, but atleast I came to Boldaim today)

And thx to DF I would say it isnt very likley that there are many lvl 50s logged in Excalibur anymore

 

[SingerOfSoul]

o there is

all the albs have logged theyre lvl 50 alts there while they play theyre lvl 50 mains in DF

 

[-Dreama-]

If the mids felt it was soooo infair that they were left without relics they would have worked a bit harder to take them back BEFORE the patch. Any idea how many suicideds/xp loss and how many grps we've left and how much cash we've spent defending those relics? Well, to take them from us without a fight would simply be stupid. A relic reset would be the worst possible solution for GOA/Mythic...they would get so many emails from every alb and hib char that after 2 days they'd put them back. Honestly, mids can't say they had no idea it was gonna get harder, you guys should have thought about getting your acts toether and takeing a few relics before the patch.