Bugged me so much, I woke up!

[Kiiz]

This is an issue that was bugging me from when I got home from work (6:30am) til now.

It concerns players buying/trading accs (I know i shouldnt support it, and i really dont, after beeing ass scammed but i have to have an opinion anyway)

If a player buys/trades one acc, and he trys to RvR with us( In us i mean Hibernians, known as the 1337 realm) this player will get offended. He will be called n00b and mr. ebay.com , fake, well all kinds of names. Why cause he traded(maybe his rr9 on another server to this server cause he wanted something new) ? Cause he chose to buy one acc and save days and days with leveling(even tho its the best way to get to know ur char, it is quite boring if ur used to the game already, it acctually even gets boring if ur fresh) ?
I find this kinda werd. Even tho these guys chose the easy way in to our realm, shouldnt we at least try them out b4 poundering their ass with verbal steroids? (Just adding i am against trading/buying due to scams)

and

If a player starts fresh, and after hours and hours and hours of hard leveling, he decides to try to toa, and even if he succeeds, he will come to Druim Ligen for what? To hear "Aye sire we dont want 1L1 unskilled naab" , or sorry too low rr or in the /g ppl saying and spamming "not him" "never heard of him" "he is 1L1 saw it on irc". Is this guy going to be fecked anyway? I think so. Do new players stand a chance in Hib/exc? I really dont think so, due to our overwhealming leetness.

And what will happen? Eventually, hib/exc loses all their players, ppl leave for other games, or maybe close accs for other reasons. And hib/exc is left with /all = 34 players at peeks, and these 34 will be whining their ass off that they are so few and underpopulated (like we are now), and the main reason for this is ourselfs, and the attitude we might give to new players and our future.

I know i am surely going to get tons of anger and backfire, but damnit, it is the truth, we need to open our eyes.. plz do comment in whatever u think is right/wrong here.

Myself , Im trying to open my eyes, and be more gentle and nice with all kinds of ppl. Just incase i decide to have this game in my future.

 

[Vodkafairy]

sure the people who trade might be nice people, but when you see the char of an old friend or in general a well respected player in the hands of someone else, it stings

besides, any question they can ask can be answered with something along the lines of 'go buy some on ebay' which will always be funny ill be the first to apologize and say they are nice people tho, when it proves they are..

take aragvain and fame for example, the new owners are kinda clueless and very thick, when they used to be really nice. then again someone like maril proved that there's really nice people on traded/bought accs aswell

 

[Kiiz]

sure the people who trade might be nice people, but when you see the char of an old friend or in general a well respected player in the hands of someone else, it stings

I cant agree more with you VF. But still, it aint hard to give them a shot, they did go threw a deal with money/ other personal values to get this acc they now play in. And as for the "go buy them on ebay" lines, i think it hurts the players and makes em stop playing.. but its nothing i can do about that, thats hibernian nature to be asses

 

[lofff]

as vf said, first impressions are always biased by memories of the original creator of the character, but it IS well deserved and even mroe intense if/when those new owners fake been original players, which i will never understand but happens a lot

on other cases, its undobutly unfair, however those are the rare cases.. and it just takes the new owner to earn his own respect which has happened plenty of times to get it over, thing which new owners should/seem to presume/accept when they buy the account, prolly the reason so many try to fake been original owner buring themselves deep in the ground

but you see, first thing a guy must do to earn his own reputation is to respect the previous owner of his character, blatanty claiming YAY DING 9L1 when he bought a 9l0 char (happened couple weeks ago, my gfs old character which she sold like 10months ago xd..) brings evil grins to grpmembers and backstabs.. well deserved ones, or aragvains behaviour dissing ppl, spamming /as, been in general a thick prick totally destroying originals aragvain name..

in general, ebayers should stay quiet and try to fit in the comunity for their own achievements (the ones they are to make) not for their previous owner ones.. most of them just spam l33t talk and shit..

ive sold characters, i do think 90%+ ppl who buys a character is a poor sod and rather dumb, but theres still a hope (10% xd)

 

[Lorra]

sure the people who trade might be nice people, but when you see the char of an old friend or in general a well respected player in the hands of someone else, it stings

Why shud it sting the friend/well respect member of comunity has sold there account... not like it got hacked.

 

[Nausilus^^]

Why shud it sting the friend/well respect member of comunity has sold there account... not like it got hacked.

You still have certain memories of the character itself as if it was a RL friend.. I know I do - and when a character you knew and considered your friend is suddenly played by another person who acts differently, and doesn't even know you, it sure is a little bit odd.

 

[Theseus]

You still have certain memories of the character itself as if it was a RL friend.. I know I do - and when a character you knew and considered your friend is suddenly played by another person who acts differently, and doesn't even know you, it sure is a little bit odd.

/agreed

Also I would like to add the following:
The Leet attitude that was mentioned is definetly a problem. I remember when 2 years back i could actually get groups with my 1L1 Ranger and everyone had fun. We had Vengeance as the Leet guild, but everything was cool and all were happy etc...
Nowadays everyone is far too hooked up on Rp's , winning, whatever it is, it has to stop imho.
Hib/exc used to be a peacefull place where everyone was very kind and helpfull.Now we have turned into an elitish bunch off assholes (yes i know alot off ppl are still very nice etc but you get my point)

Just my 2cts

 

[Divinia]

Ebay = laughable and no respect. dunno why you group them.

 

[vintervargen]

because all ebayed noobs stands in DL /y RR10 ELD LFG!!!11

thats whats most annoying. all experienced rvr'ers in hib knows eachother, and will use the PM system to make groups, not choose between people that screams LFG.

 

[jokke]

because all ebayed noobs stands in DL /y RR10 ELD LFG!!!11

thats whats most annoying. all experienced rvr'ers in hib knows eachother, and will use the PM system to make groups, not choose between people that screams LFG.

im always yelling lfg...

 

[Kiiz]

Ebay = laughable and no respect. dunno why you group them.

But ur also an assshole. and u really dont think b4 typing. Ebayers meanin= both player who bought player who sold. Now go tell fame/gargo/aragvain/spleen and the rest of the bunch who sold they are worthless. Jesus such attitude. happy 11th burthday

because all ebayed noobs stands in DL /y RR10 ELD LFG!!!11.

Well vinters, not like they have ur amount of friendsd, and surelly by the time they play all servers knows they have bought the acc. and then some players decide to spam shit about them around the server. how else u expect them to find new friends.. Its a "group" game tbh. We really ned to get anger/attitude managment. But i also got pissed when i saw Daim screaming Hero with BG lfg . But hey these players decided to sell/trade their accs, and shouldnt be more loved/hated then the guy who bought them, at least we shouldnt hate the buyer at once, let him give us something to embrace him for.

As for the new aragvain, The one that plays him NOW? or the one who now is Lait? Cause the one who plays him now, i have no clue who is.

To the guy who posted that we had leet guilds: we still have some leet guilds.. But tbh, they dont recruit. Even tho they are dying. Rest of guilds has become more normal guilds. And no shit about the rp hungry mob that will lynch ur ass if u ask them to wait 3 min cause u have some delays :S

 

[Mastade]

if you ebay a char you should have ur lastname changed to "ebayed" or summin... its such a piss trying to figured out what chars are ebayed when standing at dl

 

[Prisma/Sniper]

even ebayed players can actually be good at playing the class itself...

 

[lofff]

Ebayers meanin= both player who bought player who sold. Now go tell fame/gargo/aragvain/spleen and the rest of the bunch who sold they are worthless.

well thats not quite true, ive sold characters, and am not a ebayer in the terms u use that designation in daoc, since all the characters ive actually played, ive developed myself. so no, a daoc-ebayer is someone who buys and plays a character.

and btw, vinters is ebayer-original, teh #1 ;p~ (alderian) but as you may see he has earned some respect on his own after that.. somehow ;p~

 

[Divinia]

But ur also an assshole. and u really dont think b4 typing. Ebayers meanin= both player who bought player who sold. Now go tell fame/gargo/aragvain/spleen and the rest of the bunch who sold they are worthless. Jesus such attitude. happy 11th burthday

Just because you dont got anyone to group with except ebayed lamers who dont know anyone.

And no. The ones getting money for selling an password that gives acess to some character in a database = smart.

 

[Raven]

Not all Ebayer players are complete retards, there are some who go on to be very good (or are already very good) at playing their class. However on the flip side for every good one there are 10 complete donkeys.

 

[ebenezer]

i must add a thing(might have been said allready)...whats a difference between a guy who pl his character all the way and know nothing of the abilitys or how to play it....or a guy who just bought it??....i mean as far as how good u play etc is concerned^^

 

[Kiiz]

Just because you dont got anyone to group with except ebayed lamers who dont know anyone.

And no. The ones getting money for selling an password that gives acess to some character in a database = smart.

10points for u. /hug . go sit in the corner.

as for the rest. a player who sold is smart cause he earned money, but why hate the one who bought? dont think that was the intention ur "friends" had when they quit the game tbh.

 

[lofff]

as for the rest. a player who sold is smart cause he earned money, but why hate the one who bought? dont think that was the intention ur "friends" had when they quit the game tbh.

the point is that none is 'hated' that way, they may be not so tolerated in many cases, but if they become 'disliked/hated' is because of their actions that disregard ur friends memory.

 

[Kiiz]

the point is that none is 'hated' that way, they may be not so tolerated in many cases, but if they become 'disliked/hated' is because of their actions that disregard ur friends memory.

i agree if they act like asses with a once great name, u get offended. and its easier to break off communications and hate them. But its many players who are nice and have to quit due to offend spam.

And we all know us hibs hate all that aint hib originally, shit we hate eachother more then we hate others. Just check this forums, i havent seen anything like this b4. But that is a different thread.

Tho u have to agree, its easier to be a hater then a hated. and many times the hated have gaven no reason exept a deal that made ur friend a little bit richer irl.

 

[Tallen]

Not all Ebayer players are complete retards, there are some who go on to be very good (or are already very good) at playing their class. However on the flip side for every good one there are 10 complete donkeys.

Have to agree with this.

On a fun note, i know a few ebayed accounts from before a lot of the posters on this forum even played the game, you'd be surprised who has bought their accounts

The reason you dont hear about these people is they are just normal peeps who wanted a leg-up usually casual gamers who dont have the time to lvl a character. Not FH whiners, not BG/AS loudmouthed opinonated egocentric pricks..they just play the game their own way and dont bother anyone.

The "ebayed-noobs" as they are called in this thread are those who think they can tell everyone else what to do simply because they bought a rr10 account...these people are just that... noobs, no matter how good they are at the game. Respect is earnt, not purchased over the internet.

 

[Mckennitt]

Divinia said: Ebay = laughable and no respect. dunno why you group them.

tsk tsk...

Better eat something than speak

 

[Kiiz]

Respect is earnt, not purchased over the internet.

Tallen, i agree. nothing more to say here. I just agree.

 

[Danya]

because all ebayed noobs stands in DL /y RR10 ELD LFG!!!11

thats whats most annoying. all experienced rvr'ers in hib knows eachother, and will use the PM system to make groups, not choose between people that screams LFG.

That's where I went wrong.

 

[gunner440]

i would group you danya

 

[Teiten]

Respect is earnt, not purchased over the internet.

most sensible comment so far

 

[lofff]

i dont know any cases of 'ebayers' who quitted due to been offended.. then again i dunno, i dont consider myself a hater, or mb i just hate everyone equally 8)

the only person i refuse to group with since i play this game aint a ebayer, hes only a guild bbot parasiter (for instance) ;p~

 

[Asq]

Somewhat of a discrepanty (sp?) isn't it?

We're in fact the underpopulated realm vs. driving off ebay-ed accounts?

It's odd to run into chars with a new owner; true
It's odd not getting the same respons from a char's owner you previously were friends with; true
It's fun poking the new owner of an ebayed account, especially when he/she's somewhat making an ass of him/herself: true

There's a ton or more reasons that can be summed up where new owners don;t meet up to the old ones.

But look at it this way. They're additions to the realm, maybe not (yet) as addept in playing their new char(s) but given the chance and opportunity they might very well decent or even good players.

So give them a chance (or a few) to get to know the char(s). Heck, even if they stand at dl and yell lfg... invite them in. You all know you can';t get to know a char unless you play it. What's better to get to know and how to play a char if you can run with a group.

 

[Jayce]

If you think about it your actually annoyed with the once 'friend' for selling his/her account and thus leaving you with someone you dont know, so you take it out on the person you dont know because you cant take it out on the person who doesnt play anymore.

Nice.

As said earlier. Respect is earnt not bought over the internet, true, but temper this with Innocent until proven Guilty. Do not judge a player just because they bought the account, judge them on there own actions.

 

[Funkdocta]

man there are some real l33t wankers in this realm. I personally dont see any problem with "ebayed" accounts. I mean is your life that dull that you have to ridicule someone because they bought or traded an account?

People buying the accounts will 90% of the time be players who already play daoc. So therefore a lot of them are not going to be noobs, maybe need a bit of time to learn a new class but thats not hard.

Its a game! if your needing "respect" from playing a game then your life is truly sad. If you knew the original owner, so what? you dont now so dont pm them, get over it!

/rant off :kissit: