Buffbot whine (an original one)

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ilum

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Ok, buffbots are causing me huge problems - Here are some suggested fix, please listen Mythic :

- Keep buffs if you zone.

- Buffbots should earn Bonus RPS when buffed players kills something (not lowering the buffed one's RPs). This way, I can earn RPs for more MoArcane on my Buffbot.

- Running 2 accounts can sometimes be a pain. I suggest that the people, like I, who have paid and levelled a buffbot gets some alternative way of buffing. Best way to do this, would be to get auto-buffs, same lvl as buffbot has, whenever logging on with main account. Just make some script for that on Subscription pages. This way you dont have to run buffbot window when you only want to buff yourself. Maybe make some commands like /buff dex/qui or something, would be nice.

- If you are running buffbot in a window and he LD, should be a special buffbot rule on this - you should get a warning that he has LD'ed, and keep buffs for 10 minutes. Last 2 minutes of that time buffs should be twice as effective as a compensation for the loss of buffs.

- Remove timer on resist/healproc buffs and double the cleric heal proc. Should be atleast as good as a Sidi Heal Proc on breastplate.

- If you have a buffbot at apk, he should automatically spam best spec heal on you whenever you get into range damaged. It's very hard to control two windows, so this is only fair to get max benefit from buffbot.

- Get a 20 sec stun at 50 enhancement spec with 10000 range, auto-cast on targets that get buffed player at 20% or lower health. This will mostly be geared at Bonedancers, who I've found can kill me unbuffed. That can't be the intent, and this change will make it work properly.

Well, these are just some changes I personally see as viable. Any other people got any suggestions to balance buffbots to enhance buff-user more are welcome to post.
 
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liste

Guest
you should apply for the Buffbot TL spot at mythic's. clever stuff!
 
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Turamber

Guest
Best way of improving the game all round would be to eliminate buff bots. It would level the playing field for all and encourage people to actually play healing/buffing classes. Might mean some of you 1337 types have to actually get some skills too :p
 
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Aoln

Guest
i hope u were being sarcastic :p


anyway, imo decent idea to nerf buffbots is make buffs leech if u leave a certain area of the bot, say if you go out of 5000 range from the bot your rps would begin to lower the further away you went... or something like that :)
 
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Lorath

Guest
Ilum, stop drinking that stuff..whatever it is :p
 
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Laroma

Guest
If buffbots were to get all that nifty stuff, i'd be paying more attention to what was happening on my bot screen than the character I was actually playing..
 
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kalgarn

Guest
thought you allready did?you just need to stick the zerg anyway to farm rp's.
:p
 
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Melachi-

Guest
Rofl i hope this is a sarcastic post

Originally posted by ilum

- If you are running buffbot in a window and he LD, should be a special buffbot rule on this - you should get a warning that he has LD'ed, and keep buffs for 10 minutes. Last 2 minutes of that time buffs should be twice as effective as a compensation for the loss of buffs. <- (rofl retarded)

- Remove timer on resist/healproc buffs and double the cleric heal proc. Should be atleast as good as a Sidi Heal Proc on breastplate. <- (roflroflrofl clerics enchance line is allready v.nice)

- If you have a buffbot at apk, he should automatically spam best spec heal on you whenever you get into range damaged. It's very hard to control two windows, so this is only fair to get max benefit from buffbot. <- (lol)

- Get a 20 sec stun at 50 enhancement spec with 10000 range, auto-cast on targets that get buffed player at 20% or lower health. This will mostly be geared at Bonedancers, who I've found can kill me unbuffed. That can't be the intent, and this change will make it work properly. <- (ok and heres where it gets obviously sarcastic :p )

Well, these are just some changes I personally see as viable. Any other people got any suggestions to balance buffbots to enhance buff-user more are welcome to post.
 
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old.Psi

Guest
I thought that was serious at first... hehe, nice post. :)
 
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Kelmorian

Guest
only way to beat someone that is uber buffed is to be even more buffed...

Ask Rambo and Constanze what they think of a hammerspeced thane and a hammer speced skald ;)

<hint hint> Caden and Grivne :p
 
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Thorgald

Guest
IMO, just do to buff as they did to shammy end regen.. they stop working after u get 1500 away from the buffer... its simple...
 
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Shanaia

Guest
Originally posted by Thorgald
IMO, just do to buff as they did to shammy end regen.. they stop working after u get 1500 away from the buffer... its simple...

1500 is not enough as in some fights you can get pretty distant from the group healer/buffer.... but 3000 would be reasonable ...

And the only reason I'm against buffbots is becuase I'm to lazy to level one up :p
 
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snotfor

Guest
woot? is this an alb saying the end regen nerf is unjust?
 
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ilum

Guest
Not really...difference between buffs and end regen...Paladin's end regen has a range of 1000.
 
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gomez

Guest
put buffs on 10-15 min timer, eliminates buffed campers/stealthers,
 
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oldtimer

Guest
>IMO, just do to buff as they did to shammy end regen.. they stop working after u get 1500 away from the buffer... its simple...

Not really as it would nerf Mythic's cash flow, and the old adverb "Cash is King" still applies. <smile>
 
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Sarnat

Guest
Would have been much more fun thread if you had left the last couple points out... ;D
 
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zYnc

Guest
Originally posted by ilum
Ok, buffbots are causing me huge problems - Here are some suggested fix, please listen Mythic :

- Keep buffs if you zone.

- Buffbots should earn Bonus RPS when buffed players kills something (not lowering the buffed one's RPs). This way, I can earn RPs for more MoArcane on my Buffbot.

- Running 2 accounts can sometimes be a pain. I suggest that the people, like I, who have paid and levelled a buffbot gets some alternative way of buffing. Best way to do this, would be to get auto-buffs, same lvl as buffbot has, whenever logging on with main account. Just make some script for that on Subscription pages. This way you dont have to run buffbot window when you only want to buff yourself. Maybe make some commands like /buff dex/qui or something, would be nice.

- If you are running buffbot in a window and he LD, should be a special buffbot rule on this - you should get a warning that he has LD'ed, and keep buffs for 10 minutes. Last 2 minutes of that time buffs should be twice as effective as a compensation for the loss of buffs.

- Remove timer on resist/healproc buffs and double the cleric heal proc. Should be atleast as good as a Sidi Heal Proc on breastplate.

- If you have a buffbot at apk, he should automatically spam best spec heal on you whenever you get into range damaged. It's very hard to control two windows, so this is only fair to get max benefit from buffbot.

- Get a 20 sec stun at 50 enhancement spec with 10000 range, auto-cast on targets that get buffed player at 20% or lower health. This will mostly be geared at Bonedancers, who I've found can kill me unbuffed. That can't be the intent, and this change will make it work properly.

Well, these are just some changes I personally see as viable. Any other people got any suggestions to balance buffbots to enhance buff-user more are welcome to post.

Haha, now that's class imo, and i agree fully :D
 
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Keogh

Guest
Whilst Mythic are at it they should remove all realm abilities as they give an advantage over those without them. They should remove the Enhancements line from healers so no one can have an advantage when having a healer in their group. They should remove SCing and let people go back to finding the right drops to make their template. They should remove all magical abilities because there's no such thing as magic and there never was :D and finally they should make all stealthers have the same degree of stealth (dependent on how Stealth is spec'd obviously) cause Camo is so bloody useless with the timer being reset every time you hit an enemy.


Oh and for those who can't tell sarcasm when they read it, only the last point is my real view :D
 
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Shike

Guest
Originally posted by gomez
put buffs on 10-15 min timer, eliminates buffed campers/stealthers,

tehe, that's an effective way to make the buffingclasses quit the game at least. Its not _that_ fun to buff you know ;)
 
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Harhr

Guest
When we are on topic why don't just give everyone purple buffs so noone has to pay for buffbots and everyone is equal! Also that will cancel all buffbot whine! Now this is clever stuff!
 
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eynar

Guest
Originally posted by ilum
Not really...difference between buffs and end regen...Paladin's end regen has a range of 1000.

With the difference that paladins are tanks so they fight in the frontline, meaning all tanks stay in range. Shamans on the other hand are seers, and therefore aren't in the frontline.
 
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ilum

Guest
End on the casters doesnt suck either...and sometimes Paladins are suppose to stay with casters to protect?

End range on Paladins chant will get upped in a future patch.
 

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