Buff Shears

[Fedaykin]

So yesterday was my first RvR ever in Midgard and my first real RvR session since 1.69 hit, and as aug shaman i've been blessed with a nice set of buff shears, i found then tremendously useful - and instead of plantnig a dot on someone i'd shear them instead

i asked my group (because i can't be sheared) if any of them had been sheared and to my suprise the only group we met who used them was AD

just wondering what other shamans/druids/clerics think of shears?

focus shell seems a little difficult to implement well, i only managed to get it to work 1-2 times succesfully all nights - due to the fact if the recipient takes any action apart from movement it breaks

 

[Aussie]

wow you figured out midgard has an extreme advantage in buff shears?

 

[anubis]

wow you figured out midgard has an extreme advantage in buff shears?

rly?

saw some hibs use it quite often
never albs tho

 

[Clipse]

yesterday Tdaer killed me.

Why ? I hear u ask.

because herbal was trying to shear instead of heal

 

[Herbal]

sheared all dem elf n luwies nerf tdaer adding

 

[Slytale]

yes yes - shear more buffs imo - gives adding archers time to line up crits

 

[Summoner]

remove d/q and s/c from bard instead of interrupting him with root/dis, same for druid if he has a green con pet nearby.

cast ae con, dex, acu shears on box (after ae root and ae disease ofc)

cast s/c, d/q shears on enemies tanks and casters.

i never try to shear buffs from clerics, nurture druids. Often it doesnt worth the time spent on shearing as they used to be selfbuffed.

the only buff shear i never use is a single str shear.

often druids, clerics remove con, dex, s/c, d/q from my group members and very saldom - acuity.

 

[flex]

well, i've been wondering about buff shears too lately. Imo, albs should run with a 44enh cleric, still works good since it's still possible to heal with first spreadheal .

Last time i played was about a month ago when we ran gg with 1 rejuv cleric + 1 49 enh cleric just to check it out . Went good that night but can't really judge from a few runs.

I am enough convinced about the usefullnes of buffshears. For albs specific i wonder if a 48 enh cleric might work, gives u the 2 aoe con shears, red resists, shield, but u lose spreadheal. I think it might work if you focus your group around not getting damaged in the first place and if you get damaged, make that damage as low as poss (buff shears, sorc debuffs, red resists, bodyguard, enough aoe interrupts etc). The role of that cleric would be totally different from what he is used to tho, he would be aoe interrupter, shielder (wich can work very well i think, if you build your group around it (nearsight etc)) etc instead of healing. You must offcourse make sure the other cleric is uninterrupted (with 2bg & 2 sorc in group might work ). All very tricky etc but i plan on trying it out when i come back

Not worth going higher then 48 imo, 48 still gives u 50% rez, first group heal & grp insta.

would require alot more teamplay then mids, but that's nothing new is it ;p

 

[Summoner]

yes yes - shear more buffs imo - gives adding archers time to line up crits

those adders are getting buffsheared in the frontline just for the case they are gonna escape shortly long way to atk, dl tho

 

[Downanael]

As zoyster said,if you start to shear on most critical part of battle it usually ends up on bodys. You can only use shears when you winning/having upperhand etc the battle,and then it dont affect much on the end :x

Haven't played with 2 clerics on group for ages but this the feeling i got.

 

[Elahim]

Givf 3rd cleric into alb grps without loosing serious utility plz

 

[flex]

imo buff shears can be used in offense too, A target with both con buffs sheared will lose alot of hp wich can not be healed back ! That makes it much easier for your group to kill people and very hard for your opponent's healers to heal. A solo caby can easily 2shot enemy casters.

Shearing can decrease incoming damage with quit abit too, if a nuker loses both dex buffs, his int buff, and gets dex debuffed from sorc he's gonne cast very slow
Same goes for tank who loses all his str/dex buffs + str/con or dex/quick debuffed from sorc. You actually fighting ppl who have worse stats then if they would be unbuffed.


Actually midgard has it worse from that viewpoint. Only their shamy is immune for those shears, their healers can be sheared, hib & alb healers can't.

 

[Downanael]

Actually midgard has it worse from that viewpoint. Only their shamy is immune for those shears, their healers can be sheared, hib & alb healers can't.

The fact shaman can concenrate on shearing 100% pays that easily back tbh

 

[Fedaykin]

actually albion clerics in most groups can be sheared as they always prefer spec dex from a bot

 

[Dawn]

nerf DF

 

[Hotrats]

Shears, much like FZ seem to be a nice idea introduced to the game but as per usual an idea where albs get screwed and mids get loving.

Like I heard on mirc yesterday if clerics got FZ instead of healers the game might just be slightly closer to balanced. Giving shaman shears was perfect for mids however at least it gives clerics a little more to do other than just heal and stun (although I would have preferred them on minstrel or even friar!)

 

[Raven]

although I would have preferred them on minstrel

great idea, maybe give them, touch of death too, clip range insta that reduces your opponant to lvl 1 and does 2k damage

 

[Meduza]

great idea, maybe give them, touch of death too, clip range insta that reduces your opponant to lvl 1 and does 2k damage

Raven for president! He finally got it!

 

[lallaren]

Shears are very nice for shamans and i use them quite alot, dex/acui ones on casters etc, like them alot, but bad that hibs/albs dont have the time to use them like the shamans do. ;o

 

[Robot]

Buffshears are kinda interesting, good to shear off d/q and base dex off enemy casters etc.. aoe shears kinda suck, as they get resisted alot more it seems then single line and because shears break mezz etc, its not a great thing to use, unless you wanna disturb a mass amount of peeps.

Focus shell can only really be used on a shaman, as on a cleric or druid your spec would be suck ass, as you would only be a walking bb, where as u could go 41 aug, 35 cave and still be very efficent.

 

[Expreso]

a little question...

does shear buff interrupts? i think no (and hope it too) but not sure

and does it break mezz/root?

 

[Puppet]

Giving shaman shears was perfect for mids however at least it gives clerics a little more to do other than just heal and stun (although I would have preferred them on minstrel or even friar!)

Ofcourse they should be insta-cast and they should have combi-shears shearing all bases (and specs) with 1 shout conviently at around 43 instrument spec xD

Zzz dont be silly; minstrels are already overpowered enough in stealth-wars; no reason to give em anymore before loosing stealth

 

[Coren]

a little question...

does shear buff interrupts? i think no (and hope it too) but not sure

and does it break mezz/root?

All shears do a token amount of damage as well I think, so that would be yes to both? Not had any experience with them though, being a friar.

 

[Narco]

well droods and clerics needs to heal as main thing while shamans hes main thing is interupt so mids can do it easy !

 

[Garbannoch]

only realm that can fully utilize buffshears is midgard (surprise, surprise). Albs and hibs will have a hard time using it and (as pointed out already) most of the time if they actually use it the battle would have been won anyway.

but who cares - NF here soon and it all wont matter anymore

 

[Glottis]

But we all know Midgard is Mythic's love child.
Regards, Glottis

 

[Angara]

For hib it would have been best if wardens got the shears and not the druids..imo

 

[ShivaW]

Givf 3rd cleric into alb grps without loosing serious utility plz

why 3rd cleric? one reju cleric + enhan cleric can do good work

 

[Kalid]

Well I try to always buffshear savages if theres time and possibility. Was kinda fun seeing 3 savages trying to kill my bard with no buffs lol.

 

[vintervargen]

as nurt druid i do shear tanks when i can, as root is kinda useless with grapple/bg, but i only shear support/casters if they are root immune or moccing..