BT ASDL question

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old.GateKeeper

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I am seriously considering getting ASDL home connection and i am looking to share it with my homemates via an NT server (NT4 most likely) but the 512kps connection is USB only and was wondering if this was going to be a problem or will it be easy to share accoss a network?

Will i need to set a proxy server on the NT machine to enable web requests to be forwarded ?
Also will it be possible to set a q3 / HL / UT servers on the NT machine and have people log in and play from the internet?

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shabazz

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add 50 other peeps to your con and then realise your not gonna get anywhere with bt's arse version of ADSL

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old.Pige

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512k is'nt that much bandwith for a server, Good servers are on 10meg lines up. Add to that you need ALOT of ram and a powerful processor or it will be pap anyway.
 
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DApea!

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You could have about 3 people playing externaly.

Q3 you could probably stretch it a bit.

People on your lan could play also.
 
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old.TheGuyver

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For all internet stuff, i would run a NAT Program. (network address translation) Works a treat.

ftp://ftp.tinysoftware.com/pub/winroute/wrl30en.exe

No faffin about add mapped ports etc.

As for running a server for the inet... wouldnt recommend it personally. maybe the odd m8.. but nothing serious.
 
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old.MeddlE

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Just a couple of things.

1) Running a server on a residential ADSL connection breaks the terms and conditions, therefor earning you a cancelled account, no reimbursement, etc.

2) With a contention ratio of 50:1 on residential ADSL you aren't going to have a lot of bandwidth anyway. Read the blurb, it doesn't say anywhere that you will have a 512kbps connection, it says that you COULD get as much as 512kbps, as long as nobody else is using it at the same time. So, at worst 10.2kbps, at best (and highly unlikely) 512kbps.

My cable connection is now booked for install, 512kbps connection, 2:1 contention ratio, so minimum 256kbps connection. See what an extra £10 buys you.
 
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old.Necro

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You need to setup some form of packet routing (IP Masquading? spelling?) on the system that has the USB ADSLmodem attached (proxies tend to be more specific - eg ftp only, www, Quake, etc) . However, i don't know how MS deals with TCP/IP routing, and TBH i don't really want to know.

It should be possible to setup servers and allow external people to log on but the 128/256Kbit upstream connections ADSL comes with (the 512 is the downstream bandwidth) are not really adequate for a server, assuming BT don't ban that sort of server anyway..
 
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Guest

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Meddle,

With the experience I've had of BTs' past and current offerings, I would tend to agree with you.

The one thing that doesn't seem to quite fit in is the fact that BT seems to have a whole raft of content providers signed up. These are, apparently, going to provide us with a 'rich multimedia experience'..fnaar!

I'm sure that even the doziest of negotiators would ensure that there was enough bandwidth to accomodate their companys' offering. On the other hand, it IS BT
 
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old.MeddlE

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SoWat,

The business package at £39.99 + VAT offers a contention ratio of 20:1 which is way better than residentials 50:1 but still nowhere near cable's 2:1. BT are being very misleading in the advertising for ADSL and it is highly likely there will be some very upset people out there after install.

Basically, unless you have no choice, don't do it.
 
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old.GateKeeper

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If residential ASDL is 50:1 and business is 20:1 does that mean that they will be on different multiplexd lines?

If this is the case then surely a resisdential line will be multiplexed with 49 other residenial lines and no business lines. This is could mean that the data rate is not always saturated as most residentail lines are used for web-surfing (not a very high bandwidth task!)

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old.TheGuyver

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Surly that rule only applies to REAL servers...

not something for personal usage...
 
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old.TheGuyver

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actaully having thoiught about it bt are prolly that anal. *SIGH*
 
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old.Kez

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Although, consider that someone can't get Cable Modem in their area, and they only have modem or ISDN, ADSL is still a sizeable option, being as its quite unlikely to really be 10.2 or whatever.

It depends what you want to use it for really I suppose, there have been complaints and whatnot saying that the steady data stream from ISDN is better than ADSL/Cable - but then thats slow in comparison (possibly) to downloading things.

ho hum.
 
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old.Necro

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I think most of those getting ADSL are people who are heavy users that have decided that 0800 ISPs are inadequate. I wouldn't pin hopes on other ADSL users not taking up much bandwidth..

Also, i'd be surprised if they didn't multiplex business and home users in some areas..
 
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old.TheGuyver

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i`d have to agree with necro there.

By the sounds of it u are wanting to get adsl. TBH if u are quick to signup, live in an area full of old foogies then u MAY have a chance of being relativly full bandwithed.

This is probably not the case. what will happen is this, a load of people will go onto adsl.

Rave about it. then it will be come flooded. Then you will get other telcos etc offering reduced contention ratios, and in the end BT will be forced to reduce thiers as well.

However, that prolly will not happen main stream until 2001/2 Realistically.

So if u still want to have a decent connection for games i.e when u need it and not so the kid 3 doors away grabbing real time porn streams/mp3/latest games etc interfering with your bandwith then stick with ISDN.

64k doesnt sound much, but its yours. not shared between 50 people.
 
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shabazz

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yeah I've got ISDN and I'm firmly sticking with it. NEways, dl's don't really take that long on ISDN, unless you're sitting there watching it, counting every second...

If BT released it with a 6 peep max then I'd go for it, but noway at 50....

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old.Necro

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TBH what i'll probably do is get both a broadband connection (ADSL or Cable Modem), and have ISDN as backup. Not sure if if BT would allow that though..
 

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