Britain's 20's most dangerous drugs

[Mephz]

I used to be a cocaine addict for 9 or 10 years. Was snorting a Henry every day (3.5 grammes). Anyway, I've been clean for years and years now. I'm not here to preach. What I'm saying is if you're gonna do whatever it is you do, there's no excuse to do it in ignorance of what the drug is doing to you, to others, and the possible long term effects on your health.

Yeah, I'd say I am pretty clean living. And proud of it.

Was the harding thing in my life to give up coke.

I find that hard to believe unless you’re on some extreme money, that’s a grand a week with out rent, food and living.

mental health wise i don't agree....used to smoke pot heavy...would do a Q (7 grams) to myself a day for about 5 years,mostly lungs,buckets and bongs...i'm definately different upstairs because of it (mood swings an bouts of depression)

and liver regeneration? to an extent....but why is it people need liver transplants due to alcohol abuse? only so much it can take.

That’s not true, liver can regenerate from 25%, any further then that and your fucked.

And everyone else don’t talk shit about AAS, there's no mental health and the oral liver damage is completely over hyped. And I don’t care what them scientests say, they are not AAS focused scientists.

 

[~Latency~]

the majority who don't take drugs see no real reason to take drugs..they're happy as they are. the small minority who take drugs defend drugs with their life, because they're addicted and couldn't imagine life without drugs. you know its true. if you need the effects to have a good time theres usually underlying problems...

i smoke weed 'occasionally' ..don't feel any need to get it regularily THOO

 

[Achilles]

I think the mental health issues are merely those that they can be psychologically addictive

The mental issues related to cannabis are not merely to do with addiction. In some journals (lancet and student bmj) i have read recently cannibis has consistently been linked to delayed onset schizophrenia and other chornic mental disorders. Cannibis interacts with receptors in your brain in ways that go beyond psychological addiction. Dont know if that was what Marc was talking about? But then again all of this is open to review and opinion on this type of thing changes over night.

All the QQ'ing about scientists are talking bullshit as usual is zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Everyone laughed at Columbus when he thought the world was round. It was accepted for thousands of years that the sun was the centre of the universe.... they are not going to nail stuff first time round, that half the people on this forum cannot begin to even get close to comprehending.

 

[Sparx]

Scientist are always proving themselves and theories wrong

Look at the dinosaurs every other year they discover another one that was bigger than the last.

So its hard to believe scientists when they argue amonst themselves. None of them can agree

 

[swords]

Ok. Science is an ITERATIVE process, which means that to reach the truth you make hypotheses and test them, those which do not hold up are rejected and those which do are tested further. Eventually you may eliminate 99.9% of your original hypotheses BUT you are that much closer to the truth.

I could ask you how many times a year you are wrong about something? ever been wrong about something? almost certainly, therefore by the logic (or lack thereof) that you use, why should we trust you as you are also capable of being wrong.

 

[Sparx]

Ok. Science is an ITERATIVE process, which means that to reach the truth you make hypotheses and test them, those which do not hold up are rejected and those which do are tested further. Eventually you may eliminate 99.9% of your original hypotheses BUT you are that much closer to the truth.

I could ask you how many times a year you are wrong about something? ever been wrong about something? almost certainly, therefore by the logic (or lack thereof) that you use, why should we trust you as you are also capable of being wrong.

I'm wrong all the time, but laws arent passed by what i say. What i get wrong doest affect millions of people

 

[swords]

Politicians, another bunch of twats who don't understand what science realy is and make sweeping assumptions without condsidering evidence.

 

[Vladamir]

And everyone else don’t talk shit about AAS, there's no mental health and the oral liver damage is completely over hyped. And I don’t care what them scientests say, they are not AAS focused scientists.

I was hoping you'd show up

How much of the damage is negated by Liv52/Milk Thistle and so on?

The mental issues related to cannabis are not merely to do with addiction. In some journals (lancet and student bmj) i have read recently cannibis has consistently been linked to delayed onset schizophrenia and other chornic mental disorders. Cannibis interacts with receptors in your brain in ways that go beyond psychological addiction. Dont know if that was what Marc was talking about? But then again all of this is open to review and opinion on this type of thing changes over night.

Let me make this clear

I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT CANNABIS, I AM TALKING ABOUT STEROIDS

 

[Lamp]

I find that hard to believe unless you’re on some extreme money, that’s a grand a week with out rent, food and living.

A grand a week was nothing compared to what I was earning back then. So yes, I was on "some extreme money" as you put it.

 

[tris-]

if you need the effects to have a good time theres usually underlying problems...

THOO

bull shit.

the same bullshit everyone spills out. not everyone NEEDS drugs to have a good time.

taking weed for example. im sat at home, literally nothing to do. i can play cod 4 online and that is loads of fun, i can goto the gym and that is loads of fun.
now i can smoke pot and play cod 4. why is that any worse than simply playing cod 4? i dont need weed to have a good time, but it can enhance something thats already great, or put a new spin on it, or simply provide a physical element aswell as a mental element.

 

[Achilles]

Let me make this clear

I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT CANNABIS, I AM TALKING ABOUT STEROIDS

Font size cuts me deep. Sorry, i entirely miss read what was said.

 

[Kagato]

Hurray for Ecstasy! Never should of been banned in the first place.

 

[Zede]

A grand a week was nothing compared to what I was earning back then. So yes, I was on "some extreme money" as you put it.

i think your lying out of your arse too

 

[Roalith]

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Get to it m'kers!

 

[Zede]

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Get to it m'kers!

amen bro

 

[Mephz]

I was hoping you'd show up

How much of the damage is negated by Liv52/Milk Thistle and so on

The steroids that are the toxic are the orals that have been made active by 17a (17th Carbon) alkylation that involves the addition of an alkyl group (methyl or ethyl) to survive the pass of the liver to increase the bioavailability.

But not all orals are “toxic” if it’s not methylated or alkylted then it isn’t, but the “damage” is very hyped and mostly garbage, it’s not the actual steroid that does the damage it’s the metabolites after break down and the severity depends on the steroid and the dosage.

I.e. ranging from Oxymetholone (Bad) to Stanozolol (Weak), but the interesting thing about making a steroid active is it changes COMPLETEY.

A grand a week was nothing compared to what I was earning back then. So yes, I was on "some extreme money" as you put it.

So around 50k a year after tax just on coke, what was job? Unless it was 80% baking soda and with that much coke I am surprised you have any blood vessels in ur nose left. Only people I know that snort that much are celebrities and rich drug dealer types, because you can’t afford an eigh of coke a day.

 

[soze]

Maybe Lamp was a drug dealer maybe he had a job where he did not pay tax.

 

[Cemeterygates]

We're talking about steroids not pot r/e mental health.

10 weeks of stress with ancillary meds & time off to let the body recover is far less damaging than alcohol abuse.

Ah my bad,thought ya meant across the board (drugs in general)