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Wow! what a couple of days. after spending more then an hour reading this thread. i have come to realised that my action may have/may not have(maybe its already there?) cost a big rift in the realm of albians. it may have damaged the relationship between guilds or may not have. i dont know but it was not hard to see there is a hidden problem there for all to see. this flame war didnt start by me(stt) but it's was started by an item which was traded to me as who has read and posted would all argeed.
its not hard to see there is only going to 1 solution to end this flame war, and that would be to giving up the bracer which i'll do without hesitation. this is a decision made by myself and myself only. no 1 have any idea b4 this post goes live, i was not forced or pressurred in anyway to give up the item (this is a very important point). i do this because this matter has gone too far and i'd really like to end it here now without damaging the realm further.
before u all bored and leave to read another more interesting thread, there are a few points which i would like to point out from the readings from below.
i started doac since day 1 of beta to still active now, from lvling stt to 50 then tts to 50, i have been in hundreds if not thusands of group. good or bad i would like to say i always come out with credit to myself and my charater(if u say so otherwise). and in that time i had never had such matter to deal with. i have no doubt that i had upset afew people in this matter but then again this is between 2 (is it not?) and the reponse and hatred i get simplely amazed me.
from named being called greedy bastrad to wanker...(yes a wanker, Mr Trapp..to now i have no idea why u called me that but from what i know wanker = some 1 who masturbate no? and if u tell me u never masturbated then im affride that u can never appriciate the joy of sex as u might be the 10% elite population that cant get it up), ehkhemm back to the main point, i will not condemn the personal attacks directed to me as i know full well that people has personal view, thats what makes human unique.
i hold my own view too with this matter as i have explained many time and will do it for the final time.
*i was in a keltoi xping group (not prior arranged and no prior agreedment on drops), it was a chaotic group with many casual players. anyway a certain bracer dropped and the player who picked it up shouted for a trade. i obliged and traded the item to what he wanted and we have 2 very happy parties except a certain scout who also wanted the bracer. from this, it bring up all these posts of flaming, accusations and defences.
note : the item traded with was from an eailer hunt, not an item drop from the party hunt as some1 has stated, please get ur fact right b4 accusing flaming etc)
yes, u may have said that i have broken the "gentlemen rule" of drops, the rule is handed down by hardcore players who has high level charaters. but u have to ask urself does these rules apply to casual players who may only have 1 or 2 hours to play per day. who r we to deprive them the joy of finding items and trade it? to make gold out of it etc. u may have a high lvl charater/s but u dont own the realm and the game.
trading is a very fun part of the game, the high lvls may not need to trade now but if u look back when ur just started the game at lvl 10- 15ish, did that not put a smile on ur face when an item dropped in ur bag and when u traded it for something u really wanted. what right do we have to take that away from others?
to all these concerned about this matter, i apologies for any hassle that have coursed specially greg, herbal and insurr. i appriciate their support and also the dragon knights for standing up for their guild m8(as most of the unpresant commons and personal attacks where from dks). i ll not comdemn any others who stuck their neck in for a piece of action, as i said we r all entitled to our opinions.
* to Mr ganster
i beleive u own Gol an public apology for what u have siad in 1 of ur post. quote
Actually it comes down to 1 thing
(if i may say this in a rude way)
'Does GoL stands above (as only guild) above the Groupsrule ?'
yes this upset me more then any other post, i can stand personal attacks but to accuse Gol in such manner very low and unresponsible. u r accusing more then 50 active players some of whom are well regarded in that matter.
* to Mr aussie
i dont know what and why u said things like that, why bring in the rps? does it really matter that much to u?
yes u r mr uber scout, ur the best *clap clap* thats what u implying? well congratulation.
* to Mr odysseus
i know u mean good when we had that conversation, but i find it very unpleasant and highly offensive to logged and make a private conversation between the 2 of us and made it public for all to read.
i maintained that i have not done anything deemed illigal and wrong. unless u can find that trading is illgal in the manual otherwise.
i did not post this to make a defence for myself or any sort. i simply just wanted this flame war to end once and for all.
well after all these, i hope this will be the end of this matter, mr gangster will get what he wanted and i ll (hopfully) get what i wanted and leave me alone please.
NO more flame and just drop this matter please.
its not hard to see there is only going to 1 solution to end this flame war, and that would be to giving up the bracer which i'll do without hesitation. this is a decision made by myself and myself only. no 1 have any idea b4 this post goes live, i was not forced or pressurred in anyway to give up the item (this is a very important point). i do this because this matter has gone too far and i'd really like to end it here now without damaging the realm further.
before u all bored and leave to read another more interesting thread, there are a few points which i would like to point out from the readings from below.
i started doac since day 1 of beta to still active now, from lvling stt to 50 then tts to 50, i have been in hundreds if not thusands of group. good or bad i would like to say i always come out with credit to myself and my charater(if u say so otherwise). and in that time i had never had such matter to deal with. i have no doubt that i had upset afew people in this matter but then again this is between 2 (is it not?) and the reponse and hatred i get simplely amazed me.
from named being called greedy bastrad to wanker...(yes a wanker, Mr Trapp..to now i have no idea why u called me that but from what i know wanker = some 1 who masturbate no? and if u tell me u never masturbated then im affride that u can never appriciate the joy of sex as u might be the 10% elite population that cant get it up), ehkhemm back to the main point, i will not condemn the personal attacks directed to me as i know full well that people has personal view, thats what makes human unique.
i hold my own view too with this matter as i have explained many time and will do it for the final time.
*i was in a keltoi xping group (not prior arranged and no prior agreedment on drops), it was a chaotic group with many casual players. anyway a certain bracer dropped and the player who picked it up shouted for a trade. i obliged and traded the item to what he wanted and we have 2 very happy parties except a certain scout who also wanted the bracer. from this, it bring up all these posts of flaming, accusations and defences.
note : the item traded with was from an eailer hunt, not an item drop from the party hunt as some1 has stated, please get ur fact right b4 accusing flaming etc)
yes, u may have said that i have broken the "gentlemen rule" of drops, the rule is handed down by hardcore players who has high level charaters. but u have to ask urself does these rules apply to casual players who may only have 1 or 2 hours to play per day. who r we to deprive them the joy of finding items and trade it? to make gold out of it etc. u may have a high lvl charater/s but u dont own the realm and the game.
trading is a very fun part of the game, the high lvls may not need to trade now but if u look back when ur just started the game at lvl 10- 15ish, did that not put a smile on ur face when an item dropped in ur bag and when u traded it for something u really wanted. what right do we have to take that away from others?
to all these concerned about this matter, i apologies for any hassle that have coursed specially greg, herbal and insurr. i appriciate their support and also the dragon knights for standing up for their guild m8(as most of the unpresant commons and personal attacks where from dks). i ll not comdemn any others who stuck their neck in for a piece of action, as i said we r all entitled to our opinions.
* to Mr ganster
i beleive u own Gol an public apology for what u have siad in 1 of ur post. quote
Actually it comes down to 1 thing
(if i may say this in a rude way)
'Does GoL stands above (as only guild) above the Groupsrule ?'
yes this upset me more then any other post, i can stand personal attacks but to accuse Gol in such manner very low and unresponsible. u r accusing more then 50 active players some of whom are well regarded in that matter.
* to Mr aussie
i dont know what and why u said things like that, why bring in the rps? does it really matter that much to u?
yes u r mr uber scout, ur the best *clap clap* thats what u implying? well congratulation.
* to Mr odysseus
i know u mean good when we had that conversation, but i find it very unpleasant and highly offensive to logged and make a private conversation between the 2 of us and made it public for all to read.
i maintained that i have not done anything deemed illigal and wrong. unless u can find that trading is illgal in the manual otherwise.
i did not post this to make a defence for myself or any sort. i simply just wanted this flame war to end once and for all.
well after all these, i hope this will be the end of this matter, mr gangster will get what he wanted and i ll (hopfully) get what i wanted and leave me alone please.
NO more flame and just drop this matter please.
