Boris Johnson in Charity match vs Germans

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Boris Johnson is fucking mint give him leadership of the Conservatives and ill change my vote
 

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Agreed Cal :)


Actually Ive changed my vote anyway, I voted Tory today for the first time in 20 years , god help me :)
 

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throdgrain said:
Agreed Cal :)


Actually Ive changed my vote anyway, I voted Tory today for the first time in 20 years , god help me :)

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
 

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I was considering a protest vote for BNP to be perfectly honest, but I couldnt bring myself to.
 

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I can't see why anyone would vote Labour tbh.

I can't think of one good thing they have done, oh yes, kissing Americas balls, Labour were very good at that.

I love Boris, hes great :D
 

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Great clip.
MPs need to do more TV shows. :/
Have I got news for you would be a good place to start.
Well done on voting not-labour throd - I'm actually going to be voting labour at the next election - they've fucked us they can fucking well deal with their own shit rather than being in opposition when their wonderful PFI/PPP/NHSfucking/economy policies go tits up and blaming it all on someone else. Especially that sanctimonious prick Gordon Brown.
 

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Heh, thats a very good point ECA.

Didn't Labour do the same thing last time they were in power? Fucked the country right up then blamed it on the tories.

I am amazed and somehow proud of you throd, shows you have common sense, I say that because you WERE an uber Labour supporter. Played luv.
 

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Politics is all bollocks :p
 

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Its not a bloody football match :) You shouldnt say "I vote xxx , because Ive always voted xxx, my dad voted xxx " etc etc.
We should consider whats best for the country. Thatcher was a piece of shit on the whole, and worse than Blair has been in my opinion. She , and her successors, were responsible for two recessions that put me out of work and fucked up the country.
However this government has a different way of pissing me off. The creeping legislation for legislations sake, constantly bringing out new laws just so they can be seen to be doing something, even when the old law was perfectly suitable but just didnt get enforced.
Gordon Brown borrowing 8 billion of OUR money to give to Africa, so they can continue thier wars with nice shiny new guns, was the last straw.
Let me let folks into a secret. I dont really care about problems in Africa. Oh god, what have I said ! :(
Ok , let me rationalise that statement. I do obviously care about starving children. Just the same as I do care about someone filming some woman stamping on a puppy and putting it on the internet. But there's nothing I can do about it. Someone dies every other second, somewhere in the world. I cant be responsible for all of them, I dont even want to try.
 

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throdgrain said:
Ok , let me rationalise that statement. I do obviously care about starving children. Just the same as I do care about someone filming some woman stamping on a puppy and putting it on the internet. But there's nothing I can do about it. Someone dies every other second, somewhere in the world. I cant be responsible for all of them, I dont even want to try.

I agree Throd, I just have no faith in any other party being able to change anything at all. Apart from the BNP of course but then we would just have a war with ourselves.
 

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By the very nature of how all things work of course a government is in power until they fuck it up. Otherwise we wouldnt be voting to get them out. What i never understand is why people vote as a protest in local council elections and then still vote labour at the general.
 

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I've Conservative now, yes Thatcher did do some rather stupid things, she had alot of good ideas, but the execution of them wasn't properly thought out, probably cause she was a bit strong headed and even if she was wrong she couldn't compromise, although at least we have a much healthier economy for it.

David Cameron I think could be very good, he's having to suffer as he tries to transform the party so that it actually has a sensible stance on Green issues/social security and not privatising the NHS etc, But this country needs a center right goverment in power. Reduce goverment size, let industry breath, reduce the tax burnden and actually have a goverment with a more national mentality so that the British citizen comes first. We can try to sort out the world once we've sorted out this country first.

If worse comes to worse at the next election I would much rather see a Conservative Liberal Democrat allliance than Labour and Gordon "im a proper socialist" Brown destroy the UK, and im very tired of hearing from Labour "we are still trying to fix problem we inherited, or "its the Tories fault we have this problem" Im sorry that excuse doesn't cut it anymore
 

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I don't have a problem with a lot of Labour's social policies, and in principle, I don't mind that I now pay more tax; BUT, two things mean I couldn't vote for the current government;

1. Their increased interference in areas where government have no place (I think Throd and I are on the same page there), and
2. They're a bunch of fucking incompetent morons who couldn't run a bath, never mind a country. I don't mind paying tax, but I do mind when all they do is use it as sticking plaster without solving the basic problems.

Scary thing is, apart from point 1, the Tories would probably be no better.
 

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Did anyone see the mascot get hammered the other day? I think it was at Reading. They scored a goal and all piled on the helpless mascot - very funny. If anyone knows where I can see that again t'would be nice.
 

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throdgrain said:
Agreed, but change is needed!

Still voting in the local elections isnt going to make that happen its going to be a bloody long time before the next general election just think of all those nice new policies they can come up with in the meantime.
 

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Boris, you genius! New form of a football tackle? :)
 

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i loathe tories and the only time i'd ever vote for them is if i was forced to do so at gunpoint, but boris johnson is ace. that tackle was awesome.

i don't see how you could possibly consider a vote for what is essentially a fascist and racist organisation is a form of 'protest'. you'd be better off not voting and making a point of not doing so. i voted for an indepedent councillor in my area.
 

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mank said:
i loathe tories and the only time i'd ever vote for them is if i was forced to do so at gunpoint, but boris johnson is ace. that tackle was awesome.

i don't see how you could possibly consider a vote for what is essentially a fascist and racist organisation is a form of 'protest'. you'd be better off not voting and making a point of not doing so. i voted for an indepedent councillor in my area.

I assume in the second para you're talking about the BNP not the Tories?
 

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mank said:
.....you'd be better off not voting and making a point of not doing so. i voted for an indepedent councillor in my area.

Best way to make a protest vote under the British electoral system is to 'despoil' your voting slip. Vote for multiple candidates, write 'you all suck' or something on it. If you don't vote then it's just another in the long line, they do keep records of trashed ballot slips & how many & stuff like that.

Or, make a protest vote. I can't bring myself to vote for someone who I don't have some agreement with though (& not too many disagreements), so that's usually a hard one for me. The fact that the Lib Dems are probably more left wing than Labour in the UK makes me laugh (else I'd cry).
 

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