Bomb placement bug cheating?

[kryt]

Yeah yeah, another cheat related thread in the vast can of worms called CS.
Recently played on a bw server, on DE_Vegas. Someone wired the bomb at the safe, then moved over and dumped it behind the desk, where
1) It is out of range
2) It was impossible to defuse ( i think, i couldnt get it there playhing against bots so i couldnt try any further, so i could just be me being shit)

Either way : is this "cheating"? the line gets drawn like a join the dot picture as far as the word "cheat" goes in CS, but it's doing something out of the map design. Not so bad if you can defuse it but very much still, lame none the less.

thoughts ? and let me know if anyone else can do it and can actually defuse it

 

[Ch3tan]

Yeah the bomb thing, is cheating. You can plant the bomb in places where it cant be defused full stop, or where it can only be defused when u team jump etc. the easiest one is on foption, where you throw it over the edge of the missle silo, if someone jumps down to defuse it they die!

Its ok in public servers sometimes, but should be considered cheating in league games etc.

 

[old.Carl1ng]

Can you please tell me why you think its ok to do on a public server, but in a league match its cheating.

 

[old.Jimmy]

ggg

cos pub servers dont matter cept for serious ones like bw and jolt ( boo ) but league games are serious affairs aint they?

 

[Perplex]

The bomb placement chetan mentioned is actually defusable. I've jumped off onto the ledge surrounding the "killing floor", walked round and defused many times. That doesn't make it any less naughty though.

The vegas example you are talking about too is defusable, again, making it no less naughty.

My favourite trick on vegas is to climb onto one of the filing cabinets, and planting the bomb on top of that. It stops newbies defusing, but experienced players that know how to get onto the filing cabinets can defuse. Is it lame? Probably

What you lot have to realise is that you can't blame players for this. It all comes down to shoddy map design. Mappers (for the most part are very good) need to test their maps a lot more before publically releasing their work. The desk thing in vegas? Mappers fault, should have made the safe room a little larger, or should have moved/removed the desk.

Don't even talk about foption. Although it is one of my favourite maps, it's bugged to fuck. How many times have you saved money up as a T, bought an AWP, and been fried by the zapper as soon as the round starts?

Players will make the most of their environments. Why? For the simple fact that humans like to win. It's down to mappers to ensure that there are no glaring exploitable holes in their maps.

 

[old.Xer]

at the CT respawn b site on cbble u can plant the bomb over the wall.this isn't cheating just saving your team those ever precious seconds.and on vegas you need those ever precious seconds.its not being lame or cheating as long as a player can reach the bomb..boostng someone to plant the bomb on top of a crate is being lame tho,so is buying an awp on foption =9

 

[old.Z3r0Ki77]

Hey this is great... so many people talking about CS loopholes ... tell me more ... lol jk ... I would like to know how some of these things are done, like how the fuck can someone teleport into my base every round in tundra.
Or keep the skin cheat constant....
Since we all know the setinfo cheat.
Anyway I don't really wanna know ....

 

[old.Z3r0Ki77]

Ok Ok so tell me ffs... lol jk