Blademaster questions

[Nix]

On my stupid attempt to make every char I can in Hib, I've been reading some BM threads, so a couple of questions popped up...

If I spec blade, 50/50/28, why would I need +blades in template if I use only CD styles? Only useful styles I can come up is Fire Blade-Spectrum combo to dehaste a tank... So does 50+11 blades make difference if I use only CD styles?

Why do some people prefer CTD over Battler? Isn't the slowest weapons the way to go? Does CTD stat drain stack with spec buffs?

Someone claimed that ML10 weapon bonuses stack over 10% (style/melee dmg). Is that true?

How much difference does in example 200 and 250 dex have in purposes of defense for a BM (evade/parry)?

Gonna make a firby blades BM in the future, and I want to clear things up before I start gathering his template

 

[Nix]

One more general melee question more...

Do different level weapon styles have differences? In example, is CD level 12 Blizzard effect and CD level 50 Supernova dehaste effect the same, or is the lower level style effect weaker?

 

[Eredrin]

On my stupid attempt to make every char I can in Hib, I've been reading some BM threads, so a couple of questions popped up...

If I spec blade, 50/50/28, why would I need +blades in template if I use only CD styles? Only useful styles I can come up is Fire Blade-Spectrum combo to dehaste a tank... So does 50+11 blades make difference if I use only CD styles?

No it shouldn't make a difference if you use CD styles only, however best styles in blades spec imo is the backchain which has very high Growth Rate, dunno how much it is used tho since you have the backsnare in CD

Why do some people prefer CTD over Battler? Isn't the slowest weapons the way to go? Does CTD stat drain stack with spec buffs?

Slow mainhand fast offhand for haste effect and higher dmg over time, and no the stat drain does not stack with d/q spec

Someone claimed that ML10 weapon bonuses stack over 10% (style/melee dmg). Is that true?

Yes

How much difference does in example 200 and 250 dex have in purposes of defense for a BM (evade/parry)?

no idea it's something in the order of every 20 dex is 1% extra parry chance or so, but don't take my word for it

 

[Eredrin]

One more general melee question more...

Do different level weapon styles have differences? In example, is CD level 12 Blizzard effect and CD level 50 Supernova dehaste effect the same, or is the lower level style effect weaker?

I know there is a difference but I'm not sure if it's dependant on lvl, I do know that for example the slow effect on lvl 4 blades style is overwritten by lvl 15 style, but if other way around you get "target already has that effect"

 

[Punishment]

+11 Cd will give u higher weaponskill , alot more than the stat ure damage is based on ... lets say str for example if blades/blunt , so u will hit harder and more importantly miss alot less

Malice/croc blades or blunt is the optimal weapon setup imo , but i have made a good high hp/resists bm template with malice/battler , only downfall is that no +qui and not capped melee spd , still i aint seen a better one without rogs in it yet

Config Report

Stats

Str: 105 Int: 0 Hits: 360
Con: 82 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 39 Cha: 0
Qui: 75 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 26 Energy: 26 Crush: 27 (3)
Cold: 26 Matter: 26 Thrust: 26
Heat: 24 (5) Spirit: 17 Slash: 29 (2)

Skills

3 Parry

11 Celtic Dual

11 Blades

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dex

160 Hits

25 Str

5 Con

Other Bonuses

7 Melee Damage Bonus

10 AF Bonus

9 Melee Speed Bonus

11 Style Damage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valour
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 40 Hits
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 4 Constitution - 99 uncut Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 11 Energy Resist - 99 faceted Light Shielding
Utility: 62.67

Head
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 4 Blades - 99 flawed Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 25 Quickness - 99 flawless Airy Essence
Gem 3: 7 Body Resist - 99 imperfect Dusty Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Matter Resist - 99 imperfect Earthen Shielding
Utility: 64.67

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 2 Blades - 99 uncut Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 60 Hits - 99 precious Blood Essence
Gem 4: 11 Cold Resist - 99 faceted Icy Shielding
Utility: 67.00

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 13 Quickness - 99 imperfect Airy Essence
Gem 2: 68 Hits - 99 flawless Blood Essence
Gem 3: 5 Thrust Resist - 99 flawed Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 11 Spirit Resist - 99 faceted Vapor Shielding
Utility: 57.67

Feet
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 5 Blades - 99 imperfect Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 rough Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Gem 4: 5 Crush Resist - 99 flawed Fiery Shielding
Utility: 64.67

Right Hand
Name: Malice
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 40 Hits
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Left Hand
Name: Battler
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 7: 4 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 8: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Necklace of Rapture
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 Energy Resist
Effect 2: 7 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 7 Body Resist
Effect 4: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: 8 Slash Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 74.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Parry
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Frenzied jewel of gelvin
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 Slash Resist
Effect 2: 7 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 7 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 66.00

Belt
Name: Girdle of thunder
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 24 Dexterity
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 80 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 38.00

Right Ring
Name: Ring o The heavens
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 38.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring of silent oblivion
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Strength
Effect 2: 24 Constitution
Effect 3: 8 Energy Resist
Effect 4: 7 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 32 Hits
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 70.00

Right Wrist
Name: Cerimonial Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ebonhide
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00


Hope this all helps

 

[Nix]

I know there is a difference but I'm not sure if it's dependant on lvl, I do know that for example the slow effect on lvl 4 blades style is overwritten by lvl 15 style, but if other way around you get "target already has that effect"

I recall seeing some where a style list that had different effects described very accurately (bleed xxx/tick, slowed xx%, snared xx%) but can't seem to find it anymore

And Punishment, I will ofcourse be capping CD and STR as high as I can in my template, was just trying to decide whether to use +Blades in template at all

 

[Twist]

I recall seeing some where a style list that had different effects described very accurately (bleed xxx/tick, slowed xx%, snared xx%) but can't seem to find it anymore

Spydor's Web for the majorly techy approach

Char builder is as good as anything for weap effects etc

 

[Nix]

Spydor's Web for the majorly techy approach

Char builder is as good as anything for weap effects etc

Still no details on weapon effects on those links

I'm pretty certain they have differences, just like Eredrins test shows.

 

[Punishment]

I recall seeing some where a style list that had different effects described very accurately (bleed xxx/tick, slowed xx%, snared xx%) but can't seem to find it anymore

And Punishment, I will ofcourse be capping CD and STR as high as I can in my template, was just trying to decide whether to use +Blades in template at all

Well +blades effects ure weaponskill just as much as +cd , so ...