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blejs

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[22:18] <Jericha> now last rvr guild going excal aswell so was good move



[22:36] <****> and during teh keep takes, we kinda died very messy, and that annouyed some people :p



Big whine after todays hib keep raiding.
Witch ended up with 100 hibbis out bashing diffrent keeps.

Hibbis dont come out to defend? :]


Ofc you as hibbi get adds easier then others, less population then that happend, sad enough its hibbi this server since a realm with more population it would been not as big problem to do ligen-emain run.

I also suspect if you hibbis would start to only do rvr in odins or lets say wall, and dont give up and do it for a week middis would go there.
And emain would maybe end up as new odin/wall, if u keep trieng atleast.

And then u can complain on portals atleast. Worth a try if u can take initativ maybe make a thread etc.

Be happy u got enemies and stuff to fight, as middi we have often 50+ middis from like 15cet-02cet on weekdays, and thats often so zzzz.

But i hope AD get some brains and be grateful for what u actually can have.

Rvr and not get bored cause nothing to fight.


We try to avoid skipping add, but its often random group when its add.
In my poin of view, ggs tries to avoid adding atleast.

But also if u staying at a milegate u asking for it to imo.
Just have to try avoid it more, and normal routes more, like go crim way and up to silo, dc grannys, lake etc etc.

But hope to see as much hibbis out rvring today everyday not all in same zone tho! :)
 

remi

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didnt hibs blame the 28 buff bugg or sum?


hibs did defend , after they got keeps back they went back too the holes they came from tt
 

blejs

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remi said:
didnt hibs blame the 28 buff bugg or sum?


hibs did defend , after they got keeps back they went back too the holes they came from tt

[19:58] <Lit|hmm> tip: takeing bolg doesnt make more hibs come out

(litmus)
 

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blejs said:
[19:58] <Lit|hmm> tip: takeing bolg doesnt make more hibs come out

(litmus)


takeing hib keeps is the only way too get hibs out these days
 

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yeah but you take the ones where we buff up to get to emain then some of us dont even bother because

1. we dont have speed
2. its no fun to try and retake a lvl 10 keep on your doorstep when mids keep rushing from behind
3. I dont like going mooo all day long for your benefit i got df to farm of stupid mids ;)
 

blejs

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Awarkle said:
yeah but you take the ones where we buff up to get to emain then some of us dont even bother because

1. we dont have speed
2. its no fun to try and retake a lvl 10 keep on your doorstep when mids keep rushing from behind
3. I dont like going mooo all day long for your benefit i got df to farm of stupid mids ;)

If you had atleast 1fg out almost constanly you would be able to defend it alot if needed :)

And then most wouldnt bother taking it since taking keeps with defenders is often zzz :)
 

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well taking keeps is zzz with defenders its almost as great as defending keeps with no attackers.

Stood in ailine for about 30 mins nothing happened so went to emain instead.

Take all the other keeps just leave Bolg and Ailine alone and you get all the hibs you want ;)
 

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:rolleyes:
 

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I think hibs might go Emain instead of Odin's (which is where we go now) if 50 mids didn't run at you the moment you pass Bolg.

And by the way get a clue, taking Bolg hurts your own realm the most.
 

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mid zeeeeerg.
alb zeeeeerg.

even worse then excal :<<

and ofc hib zerg to get their keeps back...
 

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Blejs: here's a hint: don't start the day off taking the Hib keeps and then run 3fg to take out whatever force is trying to take them back. AE stun + pbaoe on groups hitting doors is one sure way to piss people off.

You have made so many posts complaining about lack of Hibs, about how you think Hibs should get back into RvR, about how this or that will improve things. It's all crap.

Hibs move anywhere past Bolg as the 1fg that so many Mids and Albs want us to run, and we get hit by 1fg, then another, or in the case of today, 3fg at the same time, all rr6+

The RvR scene on Hib is going way downhilll cause we just can't compete with 3x FZ, insta/castable AE mezz/Stun, infinite endurance on tanks that 2-shot casters and support, and, to top it all off, the perpetual adding that goes on.

And yeah, take all the Hib keeps and we will send out 100 to take them back, cause the power relics are about the only thing we have left in RvR.

Ofc, when the Mids finally disappear, the Alb zerg arrives cause they can leave their portal keep cause PE usually log on when most Mids disappear, so Albs end up running in a zerg, then when you finally look like you can beat that zerg, you get a full group of rr8+ hitting you from behind with casters on /assist.

So, yeah, not bloody surprised there's more people moving to excal.

Blejs said:
In my poin of view, ggs tries to avoid adding atleast

Rubbish, never once have I seen your group walk on past a fight already in progress.

Blejs said:
If you had atleast 1fg out almost constanly you would be able to defend it alot if needed

Sure, and that 1fg vs how many? You had 2 very high guild groups out today, running together, taking keeps. Point out the 1fg high RR Hibs able to take on that 2fg?

It's getting to the stage where all you will see from Hibs will be either nothing or a 100+ zerg if this continues, as I think everyone is just about fed up with feeding the Mid adding forces.
 

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I can solo zergs if you gimme some time. Asuming they don't hit back.
 

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and i thought the excal alb emain cg is a nightmare, still better then 0 enemies lol
 

blejs

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VidX said:
Sure, and that 1fg vs how many? You had 2 very high guild groups out today, running together, taking keeps. Point out the 1fg high RR Hibs able to take on that 2fg?



Havent said u need to go 1fg to defend against a keep force have i?
It seemed to be whine from AD to been driven over when we where keep raiding with 1fg, but when its keep raid its not that usual to go 1fg tbh.

And i know atleast we tried to avoid, and also had whine when we did foolish add also, on some randoms i dont think its that bad to add if u fighting em, if random zerg then avoid, and if gg also avoid.
I know 2days ago or something BAF just ran past when we fighted a hibbi group atleast.

And we dont actually run 3fg to kill a keep force if not needed.
If 30+ then its duable to run with some others, otherwise its just a nice challenge to try kill the force.

Most fun part ppl moving to excal will get zerged and also zerg and get added and add alot more tho. Since there we can talk about zergs.
 

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blejs best way to get hibs out is u dont log on, simple is that. think most hibs are tired of getting steamrolled by bo, Pe etc. as its not fun.

its quit fun either u meet the high rr guild there pwned u in 5 sec or u meet the headless u beat with no problems.

and btw we often go odins, but either no albs at all or PE took wrong medallion and end up in odin :p or no mids so we have to take 1 of u keeps and then get ganked by high rr's
 

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VidX said:
Blejs: here's a hint: don't start the day off taking the Hib keeps and then run 3fg to take out whatever force is trying to take them back. AE stun + pbaoe on groups hitting doors is one sure way to piss people off.

You have made so many posts complaining about lack of Hibs, about how you think Hibs should get back into RvR, about how this or that will improve things. It's all crap.

Hibs move anywhere past Bolg as the 1fg that so many Mids and Albs want us to run, and we get hit by 1fg, then another, or in the case of today, 3fg at the same time, all rr6+

The RvR scene on Hib is going way downhilll cause we just can't compete with 3x FZ, insta/castable AE mezz/Stun, infinite endurance on tanks that 2-shot casters and support, and, to top it all off, the perpetual adding that goes on.

And yeah, take all the Hib keeps and we will send out 100 to take them back, cause the power relics are about the only thing we have left in RvR.

Ofc, when the Mids finally disappear, the Alb zerg arrives cause they can leave their portal keep cause PE usually log on when most Mids disappear, so Albs end up running in a zerg, then when you finally look like you can beat that zerg, you get a full group of rr8+ hitting you from behind with casters on /assist.

So, yeah, not bloody surprised there's more people moving to excal.



Rubbish, never once have I seen your group walk on past a fight already in progress.



Sure, and that 1fg vs how many? You had 2 very high guild groups out today, running together, taking keeps. Point out the 1fg high RR Hibs able to take on that 2fg?

It's getting to the stage where all you will see from Hibs will be either nothing or a 100+ zerg if this continues, as I think everyone is just about fed up with feeding the Mid adding forces.

Why not add vs. ppl that runs 10 ppl+ grps ? gw tard
 

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remi said:
takeing hib keeps is the only way too get hibs out these days

Yeah most likely you're right.. But do you have any idea why that is ?

I give you a hint, lastnight I was semi-playing with my ranger and when I walk out Bolg I see this rather big 'fg' of Mids (counted bodies later on; 12) getting pounded into the ground by French Frag. I stealth up and watch the show and when the Mids are dead... French Frag runs up to Bolg and Im sitting stealthed outside Bolg to see the next fg (Mael/BO alliance-group?) high RR run by.

Im a big believer in coincidence; I truely am.. But it was pretty obvious from my PoV that the Mid-group knew EXACTLY where the fight was, so most likely there was some deathspam; they asked where, the dying Mids replied 'just outside Bolg'.

The group (with Blesj) rezzes up the dead Mids and they Mach6 around Crim/Bolg to catch the Hibbies.

This scenario Im describing is happening very often. Around dinner-time we had a 'group' running with 2 bards, 1 druid, 2x BM and a chanter. We fighting some Mids and weeeeeee... there again is another high-RR Mid-group adding.

Its impossible to survive in Emain longer then 30 secs; even as high-RR group Hibs because you constantly fighting a RR8+ gankgroup (fair enough ofcourse) which adds on 90% of the fights.

Blesj says 'we try to avoid adding'.... how come he only mentions 1 example where BaF did... guess..... BECAUSE ITS ALMOST ALWAYS ADD FTW

So where you end up: A fg of Hibs tries to RvR; gets frustrated by getting ganked at Bolg, outnumbered in Emain, outnumbered in Breifine ('no we dont add') and getting ganked just past Ailinne..

Then they finally reach Emain again in run4; kill about 10 Mids, some of the gankgroup asks 'Where are they killing you ---> DCX' and Mach6 there to finish up.

People log, go PvE or do something else. As a result more Mids go Emain (look: Emain has 40 Mids; must be some action there!!1) and the circle is round.

I can give you numbers: For the last week, Hibernia/Prydwen had an average during 'evening hours' (primetime) /who off 230-270. About 130-150 are level 50's. More and more RvR-guilds took a hike simply because its no fun to get ganked so bad. Some already left earlier... we ended up with a realm so outnumbered and yet Mids feel the need to get Hibs out..

But hey I hope you fun in Emain, running around at Mach6 asking where the fights are with the last 5 Hibs out in RvR.
 

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The lack of education continues on this thread and many others.

Blejs is right mid guild groups try not to add. That said it is not always easy, we have shorted range than other realm so when we spot you on clip range our first priority is to cast before you do, as soon as we do that the rest of our group is firing up their own initial volleys and before we realise we are adding, its too late.

I have seen first hand bad omen skip several fights to avoid adding both stealthers and group vs group fights. Again it is often the random groups that add, not the guild groups. Also bare in mind that keep taking is not fg vs fg, when attacking a keep you even think might be defended you know you will need more than 1fg.

Hibby caster groups with power relics are still a threat, saying mids have castable/insta mezz/stun or woteva is a crap excuse for not rvr'ing. I do appreciate it is further for hibbies to go to get to emain, so why not rvr elsewhere? I hate fighting albs, the number of scout adds is just sick. There was a time i thought to myself should full groups gank solo/duo stealthers when they see them. Too right they should as they almost always add so its a sensible way to keep adds down. If people regularly knew hibs would be in odins running round as 1fg, people would go odins, or HW. Problem is that emain is overcrowded specially near amg, adds are quite simply a fact you have to deal with and rvr often looses the skill aspect and becomes more, avoiding the zerg.

Personally i enjoy 12 CET to 15 CET and 2 CET to 4 CET, you have a fair chance of meeting fg's with few to no add's, the groups tend to be a little less opt'ed, still good but generally not full guild groups so you get a bit more variety etc, all in all i have more fun. Primetime rvr? i dunno seems to be more rvr action on freddys than in emain or woteva. I prefer HW, might be less rp's but at least the keep battles are fun and the "zergs" a little more balanced. With keep fights though the last thing you wanna see is hibbies, shrooms = Zzz and frankly as much of a deterrant as the whole of the Mid pwned alliance running round emain.
 

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Imo it was funneh last night :)..
Had some very good fights with zerg, vs zerg and even 1fgvs1fg.
Best Fight of the night was the one at hmm Scat ?
Was in mael group and we killed 45 hibs in that fight but in the end it was to many hibs there (we was alone 1fg only).
But i made ~70k last day and that much i havent done in a very long time on prydwen, last time i did over 70k was when i was in Warder's and prydwen was a lil dif back then :).
 

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if its all about adds then why do hibs log when they lose in the afternoon/morning when there are no other grps around ? :kissit:
 

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Doesn't matter if you try to add or not - it's obvious it's gonna happen under these conditions isn't it? :] It's funny how quick we are to log after getting zerged 2-3 times, and yet how long we keep running around if we're facing little enemies and zerging most of them.
 

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Last week in Hib only a couple of GG running. AD, FF, maybe NFD. I ran a couple of nights with eclipse. Think it was last Sunday we made emain, killed mael group on amg/mmg zw. Got whine on irc for using <shock> grapple. Get info that Mids will bug abuse and reform. Never made it back to emain got hit either at Aillinne, Reamonn, Bolg, Crim by Mids or Mids + adds. Logged played another char went Odin's, huge zerg of enemies. Had fun, rps irrelevant.

Couple of nights actually got in emain past rampaging Bolg patrols and got zerged by a frigging alb keep take force of about 60 people.

Knock knock when will you get it Blejs.

Put your fg out in a small zone of 80 enemies every day and tell me how you will enjoy the constant adding. Don't talk BS about amg. We eventually go there as MMG camped by 2fg Mids and voila its seemingly empty, 5 secs later weeeeeeeeeeeeeee 3 or 4 Mid RVR GG pass. Now we went AMG cos we dont have radar to know where everyone is and running the walls inside emain found nothing except Mid platoon at MMG. Don't run back to Bolg cos we know its camped by 2 FG Mids as stealthers keep dieing or patrol spam. So for Hibs, we know MMG camped, we've managed to get beyond the traps near Bolg, hihi FOP's and Warps already up sometimes and skirted emain and found very little. So we are running round and round in an area that takes about 2 mins before we have to turn round. Eventually try find a scout to get AMG( they cant get there cos they get ganked by grouped stealthers on routes to emain = vicious circle).

So by all means see it from your eyes. Yep, must be wank rvr with no-one to fight at 80+ friends in emain. Must be real crap. I can tell you its a 100 times crapper from a HIB POV.

Think what we might do is only go Mid frontier, station masses of assasins around say Fens, cover all routes in with stealthers and run 5 or so high rr opted guild groups in a CG. Run 2 x bards so we can easily run speed6 and add on every fucking fight after 2 secs every time, make sure stealthers on ctr as Mids do and rude spam em continually after winning. Then move scenario to say near Glacier Giant, same trick cover all entrances with stealthers and add on every thing every time. Won't work though, a) not enough Hibs and b) Mids will run battlegroup numbers game, sooo

In 1 week can count 2 fights in emain vs 8 Mids rest have been adds. 1-1.

Feel free to explain all ya like, nearly all Hibs aren't playing now cos we can't be arsed giving free rps. Simply not enough Hibs, too many Mids and current Mid groups are good enough as it is. Might change when school break over, who knows.

Havf fun in an empty emain and don't whine when the server officialy dies. Not seeing its your fault or anyone's its just the way it always has been, numbers.

NF, well all I can see in NF is numbers.
 

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Kahland said:
Why not add vs. ppl that runs 10 ppl+ grps ? gw tard

So you want us to add on you... Just say so another time, please!
 
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