beware STEAM account spammers

Dark Orb Choir

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below is a conversation i actually had with someone who though i was silly enough to give out my details

Never tell your password to anyone.
Validation :This is an automated message generated by Steam account administration to help us verify the validity of your Steam account ownership. Please respond with your account name, password, and
e-mail address which is registered to this account in the following format: [Account]/[Password]/[E-mail]. Failure to comply with this request will result in the immediate
suspension of your account until further notice.
Signed, The Steam Support Team
To contact us, email automation@support.steampowered.com
>3 George Bush IS Gay: i can only give you bank account details and credit card number, hope thats ok
Validation :Invalid format. Please try again: [Account]/[Password]/[E-mail]
Validation: bank acc would be fine oh and tell me wea ur house keys are so i can come in 2moz with a truck
Validation: and take all ur shit away from u
>3 George Bush IS Gay: np
Validation: so where they stored
>3 George Bush IS Gay: house keys are under the brick
Validation: k yup gotcha
Validation: il be coming with a big truck
>3 George Bush IS Gay: nice hax tho
Validation: fill it up wit goods
Validation: wana buy an acc
Validation: 5 games for 15 dollars
>3 George Bush IS Gay: if i can pay buy paypal as im not giving you my bank details
>3 George Bush IS Gay: spam ur paypal details
Validation: yah pay buy bank detailes
Validation: nah
Validation: paypal
>3 George Bush IS Gay: ok whats your paypal details
Validation: how much money u gona send
>3 George Bush IS Gay: 15 bux
Validation: i need to give u an acc
Validation: no u wont dick head
Validation: ur just gona spam me
Validation: fuk tard
>3 George Bush IS Gay: orly
Validation is now Offline.
Validation is currently offline, message cannot be sent.
 

Dark Orb Choir

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and so i logon today and of course i get a "your steam account has been banned for cheating"


nice
 

Dark Orb Choir

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the guy must have stolen my steam id somehow and used that to cheat on steam servers with VAC installed.


hence my ban
 

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did i fuck, read what i put, the bloke actually replied which i thought well strange, he knew he was busted but he must have hax'd into my account somehow.

its not coincidence that a day later i get banned.....

the steam terms state if i get a vac ban it doesnt get overturned, but tbh, no one knows my account password, and it was valves own steam chat system that the bloke used to hax my account, so hopefully i can get something done about it....
 

Dukat

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but tbh, no one knows my account password, and it was valves own steam chat system that the bloke used to hax my account, so hopefully i can get something done about it....

I dont think it will make a difference, I read up on the steam website about it and it says:

In the event that a hijacked Steam account is banned by the Valve Anti-Cheat System, Steam Support will not be able to reverse the ban.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2347-QDFN-4366

The problem valve have is that there is no way to tell the difference between people who just cheat, then invent a story about thier account getting hacked to cover it, and the people who really did have thier account stolen.
 

Ch3tan

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moral of the story: don't be a smartarse with steam hackers.
 

Debaser

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The problem valve have is that there is no way to tell the difference between people who just cheat, then invent a story about thier account getting hacked to cover it, and the people who really did have thier account stolen.

moral of the story: don't be a smartarse with steam hackers.


... or don't cheat ;)
 

Raven

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Hated steam at first. Spend a fortune on there now :)
 

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You know nothing about it

i know enough to not use it.

if there to fucking lazy to unban a hacked account, and not only that, they are to lazy to even check it up! then i don't want anything to do with it.

and yes you CAN check that stuff. i dare say that 99% of all that's using the internet in one way or another have a permanent IP. you just check if a different IP have connected with that account at the time of the banning.

sure, nothing says its not just him using a different PC but its still a fairly small chance of that happening. but then again were talking ppl that play cheater strike and the likes here so.... from that view i can see why they don't.

still a retarded way of dealing with their customers tho.
 

Ch3tan

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Oh god you are missing the point by a mile.

Do you really believe an account can be "hacked" that easily? Read between the lines.
 

Dukat

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i know enough to not use it.

if there to fucking lazy to unban a hacked account, and not only that, they are to lazy to even check it up! then i don't want anything to do with it.

and yes you CAN check that stuff. i dare say that 99% of all that's using the internet in one way or another have a permanent IP. you just check if a different IP have connected with that account at the time of the banning.

sure, nothing says its not just him using a different PC but its still a fairly small chance of that happening. but then again were talking ppl that play cheater strike and the likes here so.... from that view i can see why they don't.

still a retarded way of dealing with their customers tho.

You dont know anything about "it", as throd said. "It" meaning this thread as opposed to steam, but you also dont seem very well informed about steam either. I'm rather bored waiting for a webhost to sort me out with an SQL database so I'll try to shed a little light on this for you:

There are anywhere between 600,000 and 1.3 million people using steam at any one time, averages would point to this meaning easily over a million seperate users every day. (source: Steam: Game and Player Statistics)

If only 1% of those users are involved in hacking incidents, that is 10 thousand users a day.

You expect Valve to investigate 10000 seperate user's cases every day? That is just over 400 cases an hour; just under 7 cases per minute - and that assumes they're at it 24 hours a day. How many people would they have to employ to be capable of doing this? More than one certainly, so that assumes more than £20k a year?

For what? The people they are banning have already paid for the game, they pay no subscription so the only losses are potential products the person might buy, and that ignores the fact that a certain amount of those banned will go straight back to the shops and buy another account in order to keep playing.

The amount of money involved is hardly enough to support the employment of one person, which, we've already established, isnt enough to do the job.

So is it 'fucking laziness'? A 'retarded' way to treat 'customers'? Or just plain common sense?

VAC is actually very accurate in its detection of hackers - it may take a while to catch them, but if someone is hacking you can bet they'll be gone before long, I've seen it happen too many times. So why should they waste money on people who are cheating?

The amount of people wrongly banned must be so infinitestimally small that it just isnt worth bothering about, it would be a "retarded way to treat customers" if they wasted money trying to do it, I'd rather they spent the money on developing a better game tbh.

Either way - they take a hard line with cheaters, which can only be a good thing as long as stupid amounts of people are not banned for no reason, which they clearly arent because steam is still popular. When I play CSS I'd rather play in an environment with less cheaters and strict rules than a hippie human rights convention where everyone and his dog has wallhacks.
 

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