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Darksword

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Well two men in blue just stopped by my house, they want to interview me tomorrow. they say they have enough to arrest me on, highly scepticle. so anyone able to offer me some advice?

basicly this is whats happened.

fancy dress party at a bar. my friend loses his phone, i find a phone identitcle to his. it rings, i think its my friends phone, turns out its someone elses phone. they find me, argument, i give them the phone, they say ive stolen there ipod. i hadnt. i tlel them i dont have it, turn out my pockets, and they keep acusing me, so i tell them to get lost, as do a few of my friends.

now the police come to my house and say they think ive stolen the phone + ipod and they have enough to arrest me on, there coming to take me to the station to sort it out tomorrow.

what are my rights here? can they fingerprint me? can they interview me? should i get a lawyer even tho ive done nothing wrong? (cost wouldnt be a big deal my dad would cover that)

what the fuck do i need to do to amke sure this shit isnt pinned on me?
 

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First off if these 2 men do come back make sure they have proper ID to say who they are.
also if they did have enough to arrested they more than likely would of done that yesterday,and not say they come back for you later.

imo maybe ask for your dad or some one to be with you for when and if they do come back.
explain what happend maybe a idea to have the friend who lost their phone present.
but most of this come down to one side say you have and you saying you havent with out proof dont think mate they can do a lot.

i'm no lawer but you have plent rights you could even ring the local police and tell them.
2 resons 1 just to se if you can find out more whats going on here
but 2 if these 2 men are not for real it importan to report this.
makeing one self out to a meber of the law is a big thing and it where the ables would turn and there be in a lot of smelly brown stuff.
 

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If you have a clean criminal record, and you hand over the phone I'm sure its gonna be allright mate :)

No way in hell you get arrested for finding a stolen phone, just tell them the truth. I myself found a phone in the street once. I didnt plan on using it but still had it lying around. One time it rang and it was the police, they had put a trace on the phone since it was reported stolen and they asked what the hell I was doing with it. I told them I found it, they came and picked it up and that was basically that fart in a can.

You shouldnt get worried or anything, I'm sure it will be allright, they just want to talk to you about it, its their job to investigate such matters afterall.
 

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Tell em to do one, if you didn't do it, they obviously have no evidence, however if you did do it, then maybe they have some...

If you are innocent you have nothing to worry about tbh.

I doubt they would get the FBI involved for something so trivial as well so I really wouldn't be too worried about it tbh.....

But yeah ask em for I.D etc and when they hand it over, close the door and leave em outside whilst you check it - just to annoy em more than anything :)
 

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The question you should be asking yourself is... how the fuck did they know where you live? Its not like you told this guy who accused you of stealing his stuff where you lived? Oh and its your right to have a free lawyer through all the procedings, so you wont have to pay, and literally dont say anything without your lawyer being present... nothing is off the record with the cops. The dirty pigs that they are.
 

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If they ask you to goto the police station to answer some questions. Go. You don't have to of course. But if you don't they will probably arrest you and then you have to go. It is always best to be nice and cooporate. You will find if you are nice to them, they will be nice to you.

You have a right to have a lawyer present. If you are arrested they will offer you the chance to get a lawyer (either a free lawyer or one you appoint). You can refuse a lawyer and be interviewed without one. You are entitled to stop the interview at any time and request a lawyer. So you can start an interview without and if it gets heavy stop the interview and ask for a laywer.
Reading your post you are not England's most wanted and they will treat you as such. Don't panic , you will find it probably won't be so bad and it's not like on the TV
 

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Start the interview without a lawyer, then after they've said "hello", you tell them that you want one anyway :p
 

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Doing law at uni atm, never thought i get to use it just yet :) . Well the police have powers of arrest if they 'reasonably believe' that a crime has or will be committed by the suspect, namely you and they can exercise this power at ANY time the see fit, so they would of don it then. Are you sure they were going to arrest you and not just politely ask you a few questions? But heck i've got a seminar in 15 minutes so look over this site i found you;

http://www.yourrights.org.uk/your-rights/chapters/the-rights-of-suspects/

It's all about your rights as a suspect, but i wouldnt worry, as long as you have the duty solicitor present (free of charge, though sometimes retarded) you've got nothing that they can get you for im sure.
 

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They stopped by your house to verify your identity.

They said they have enough to arrest you to scare you. Policemen love to do that.

The interview will be nothing you need a lawyer for. They'll hear your version of the story, write it down and ask for witnesses.

Where I live (Germany) the case would go to a civil court if not solved then but if you can backup your story with reasonable arguments you should have no problems.
Phone providers usaly can relate a customer to his mobile by the IMEI identification number of the mobile and as each mobile has a unique number you can also relate to the type and even color of a mobile. So if you need proof have your friend ring his phone provider.
 

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ok first off they more than likely want to chat, not arrest you. These guys that the phone belongs to are prolly trying to stitch you up.

After getting ID from the police, even if they in uniform still get id. Speak to them at the station BUT MAKE SURE you get the duty solicitor, if the police believe they may have something on you they will twist everything you say, a lawer will see this and will help alot. I would advise always having a solicitor in this situation.

Answer questions truthfully and help them as much as you can, be nice they hate arseholes.
 

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yeh, well hopefully this will all get cleared up tomorrow. ffs. ruined my week.
 

Darksword

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thanks for all the advice guys, think im just gunna talk to my mates, let them know whats up so they can confirm my story if the police ask (which is the truth not asking them to lie) and hopefully this will all be sorted tomorrow. by the way, am i allowed to know the guys name who is accusing me of this?
 

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Beovulf said:
Doing law at uni atm, never thought i get to use it just yet :) . Well the police have powers of arrest if they 'reasonably believe' that a crime has or will be committed by the suspect, namely you and they can exercise this power at ANY time the see fit, so they would of don it then. Are you sure they were going to arrest you and not just politely ask you a few questions? But heck i've got a seminar in 15 minutes so look over this site i found you;

http://www.yourrights.org.uk/your-rights/chapters/the-rights-of-suspects/

It's all about your rights as a suspect, but i wouldnt worry, as long as you have the duty solicitor present (free of charge, though sometimes retarded) you've got nothing that they can get you for im sure.
Year/Uni? :D:D

Its pretty much all been said darksword, just stay calm, tell them what happened, explain that you're happy to help them and you'll be fine. That is ofc unless you did steal his ipod ;)

let us know what happens!
 

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take as many down with you! finger everyone
 

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Better pack your bags and get ready to fly to Iceland.. your so going down :m00:

Only joking, hope everything goes well matey, stay safe.
 

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My uncles a judge, tbh they seem to have enough trouble convicting twats who've so obviously done worse crimes than that its almost funny, I reckon as long as you're smart and stick to the truth, don't change you're story and make damn sure you don't have anything that doesn't belong to you, you should be ok.

Like the others said, if the police had enough to arrest you, you'd have been arrested, they dont have the time or inclination to piss about, atleast not where I live :D

At the very least, if all goes wrong, make a mad dash for the (welsh) boarder and dont touch anymore mobile phones! ;)

PS. aren't they called solicitors in the UK ?
 

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Lawyer is a general term that covers both solicitors and barristers, and possible legal execs and the like too.
 

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go to the station.. bang you head agianst the wall (several times if needed)and than sue them for hitting you :D
 

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Tilda said:
Lawyer is a general term that covers both solicitors and barristers, and possible legal execs and the like too.

ohhhh cool, you learn something new every day :D

Yeah sounds right, I was getting mixed up with lawyer and "attorney", the american one :) doh!
 

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Tilda said:
Year/Uni? :D:D

University of the West of England, Bristol, my 1st year

But dude, when it comes to theft you must have the intention of keeping the stolen object in question, and as you say you gave it back there's no problem. You had no intention of keeping the item did you? lol j/k but yeah let us know how it goes buddy
 

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Intent to permanantly deprive the owner of all, or a large part of the benefit of owning such an object. Then we get to the whole argument of is it theft if you steal a season ticket to watch one match? ;)
Oh joy!
<is secretly glad he's not doing criminal anymore>
 

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Just give Gamah a call and he'll cone them free of charge.

Fuck you're in WoW, on your own buddy :(
 

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my bf's sister works at the crown prosecution service and she always says never let the police in your house unless they have a warrent, even if its just for a "nice chat" because theyre like vampires once you let them in your cant get rid of them and if your uncooperative they'll look for reasons to come back (i.e if your like me and have a samurai sword hanging on your wall, they'll come back saying we suspect you of possessing illeagle weapons, when thats nothing to do with why they wanted to see you in the first place).

Any hoo dont worry mate, you did nothing wrong, didnt you say you even gave the guy back his phone? tbh if he's so loose with his stuff he prolly lost his sodding ipod, just keep calm and tell the truth you'll be fine.

xxx
 

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hehehe gotta love teh police.
We have enough to arrest you right here!
translation
BOOGAWOOGAWOOGA! scared? we have nothing.. please be scared :(
 

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Blackjack said:
hehehe gotta love teh police.
We have enough to arrest you right here!
translation
BOOGAWOOGAWOOGA! scared? we have nothing.. please be scared :(

LMFAO, +rep for making me laugh :clap:
 

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Everyone arrested in a UK police station is entitled to free legal advice.

Failing that, ask for free legal vice
 

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Tilda said:
Lawyer is a general term that covers both solicitors and barristers, and possible legal execs and the like too.

Correct. I've done an LLB and the LPC. But I wouldn't call myself a lawyer. I prefer legal advisor ;p
 

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Help me with this bitch of a tort question then :mad:

Hamtun City Council is the owner of an historic landscaped park with beaches onto a river estuary. The Council allows open access to the park. Visitors only need to pay for visiting the museum, and for train rides designed for small children. Revenue from the museum, the trains and the refreshments are sufficient to maintain the park but not to allow patrols of the grounds. It has been decided as a policy matter to retain free and open access because the park is an established local amenity.

In the park are many old trees. Their lower branches are worn smooth by generations of people sitting and climbing on them. One day Harvey (aged 12) visits the park without his parents, who believe he is at school. Harvey climbs one of the trees to a height of around 12 feet. He falls and is badly injured. His ability to walk will be permanently impaired. Around the area of the trees are a number of small notices: ‘Climbing trees may be dangerous. Keep your children away. We cannot accept responsibility for any injuries suffered’.

There are two beaches on the foreshore. One of them has supervised swimming with lifeguards. The other has clear notices reading: ‘NO BATHING! – unsupervised beach – DANGEROUS CURRENTS’. Many people sunbathe on this beach, and a few enter the water to paddle. Max (23), who is a strong swimmer and himself a lifeguard, enters the water intending to swim. He knows that the currents are not really particularly dangerous on this beach, although they may be too much for a very weak swimmer, and that the Council simply does not have the money to provide more lifeguards. He steps on some rusty debris beneath the surface of the water, suffers gashes to his feet and contracts tetanus.

Advise Hamtun City Council of any potential liabilities arising towards Harvey and Max.
 

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the police can arrest you if they think you have done something, now they dont usually do this without some form of evidence cause if they are wrong about you, you can complain for a lack of evidence, they could ask you to come to the station for questioning though.

These 2 like others said may be 2 guys pretending, i would phone your local police and ask them if you have had any Real police officers come to your house, say you never got shown ID and was worried they may be there to scare you etc.
 

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