Bard questions

[Ruath]

Bard questions:

Since this is the first threat or post I ever made on this forum I’d like to start with: Ello everyone and thx for opening this threat, well now we got that out of the way I can start off.

Soon my bard will ding 50 and I’m working on a final template for him, but I noticed that I run into a lot of questions, so here it goes!

Ofc I will be having the Phoebus’ Necklace, cuz the Harp will make my life a lot easier, but is it necessary to keep wearing the neckie after u create the Harp with it? Or is the Phoebus’ Necklace the best neckie for a bard anyway?

Another artifact I was wondering about is the Croc Ring. I don’t want it for the lvl 10 ability, cuz in my opinion every balanced grp should have its own bard, but I think the stats are quite nice or is this entirely not true?

The artifacts I was thinking about for my final template are: Cloudsong, CB, Phoebus, Croc Ring, GSV, EoY. Will this be too much or are there some arties that are just crap for a bard. Imo Cloudsong, Phoebus, GSV and EoY must be in and I’m not sure about CB and Croc Ring, but I would like to hear your opinions about that.

My main question is: What will determine the chance to actually mezz some1?
Is this purely based on charisma and dex or is specline music also in the formula? And if it is do u have to cap it or is it useless to go over 50 with music anyway?
Is it smart to try to cap the other speclines (reg and nurt) or is this the whole discussion ¨Leave the healing to the droods!¨ and should I focus on my resists instead?

Well taking all this into consideration, do u have some tips on items (jewellery) that are nice, I tried the marketexplorer, but u prob don’t find everything on that, cuz a lot of the items u get from quests are non-tradeble.

Well that’s it, ty for baring with me, a lot of the questions are prob kinda nooblike.

Hope to join the ranks in NF soon.

A lowbee bard


Ruath 49 RR2L3

 

[Eregion]

every time you take off the phoebus harp the timer on it will reset so that's not a good idea imo

 

[Boni]

My main question is: What will determine the chance to actually mezz some1?
Is this purely based on charisma and dex or is specline music also in the formula?

Your chance to mezz is based PURELY on the level of the spell (not your total spec, but the spell level itself) and the level of your opponent you try to mezz. You could invest in master of focus RA (if bards can get it?) to reduce your resists (as that affects the effectve spell level of your mezzes) but nothing else will affect outright resists against mezz.

Duration can be increased with TOA gear with +spell duration, but afaik charisma doest play a part in that either.

As a bard you probably want to concentrate on dex first as cast speed is very important. Charisma affects things like your powerpool and shouts, usefull, but dont neglect your dex or resists/hps etc trying to overcap it.

 

[thaaadi]

Why is CS a must?

 

[Sarnat]

IMO GoV and other casting speed items suit a bard better than CS. You can't use the chant on it anyway as you can only have 1 running. CS also has +acuity cap which is not much of use. GoV on the other hand has 5 dex cap and 4% casting speed. Only thing is that GoV is expensive/hard to get.

 

[Mckennitt]

Imho gsv is better than gov althought its hard to level still deserves it.. ( althought u will stuck into PoC for some time ;p )

Artis that would fit good for a bard are :

Gsv,croc,harp,cs at least . Rest can be eoy ( for the aoe rezz but not in template), sharkskin gloves ( 8x +4 resists are uber good if u can fit in template), traitors+cyclops shield ( for some extras like shapeshift etc etc )

Most of all like previous said : cap your dex and casting speed which aint hard to do tbh. After that go for resists and rest up to you and what u feel like most..

Imo dont spend sc points on + reg or nurture or music unless u got free space on the template..

Thats my tokken for your advice..ofc and mho...

Regards
Mck

 

[Ruath]

IMO GoV and other casting speed items suit a bard better than CS. You can't use the chant on it anyway as you can only have 1 running. CS also has +acuity cap which is not much of use. GoV on the other hand has 5 dex cap and 4% casting speed. Only thing is that GoV is expensive/hard to get.

The reason i didnt go for GoV is that I am not really sure about what version a bard will get, is it the same as for a drood? Otherwise i have credit for the enc and i have the arti, all I need are the scrolls alltho they are prob a pain to get.

 

[Ruath]

Why is CS a must?

It's not really a must, but i liked the other stats the cloak has such as casting speed. But i guess there are other ways of incr that.

 

[Ruath]

Your chance to mezz is based PURELY on the level of the spell (not your total spec, but the spell level itself) and the level of your opponent you try to mezz. You could invest in master of focus RA (if bards can get it?) to reduce your resists (as that affects the effectve spell level of your mezzes) but nothing else will affect outright resists against mezz.

Is the ability the CS at lvl4 the same as what u mean by affective spell lvl?
Thx for the inside scoop on mezzzing :worthy:

 

[Boni]

Is the ability the CS at lvl4 the same as what u mean by affective spell lvl?
Thx for the inside scoop on mezzzing :worthy:

No thats a bonus only to stat-enhance (buffs basically), like if a druid buffed you for 100 dex, he would buff for 105 with that ability. It would be somewhat usefull for your base buffs but not for mezzing.

Check out jacinas sash lvl 1, thats got 'Bonus to duration of spells 6%', that would help your mezz last longer.

By effective spell level I mean just the level of your spell as it is in your spellbook, e.g AOE mezz is lvl 43, insta AOE is 47, single insta is 29!.
Master of focus adds to this number to make up the magic 'effective spell level'... so with mof2 (+9 to effective level) all your spellls will have an effective level of 50+ (capped at 50), except your single insta which will still get resisted more.

 

[ebenezer]

I have croc ring...phoebus....GsV....EoY..then use cloak of heavenly bodies instead of cs...and traitors dagger as weapon...works fine for me

 

[Teiten]

like previously posted you would reset the timer of your phoebus every time you take if off, and it would end up pissing you off in the long run. but phoebus also has usefull bonuses like duration and range increase. so having it on at all times isent such a bad idea!

also the level 10 ability on the croc ring will allow your groups casters brittleguards to follow you in the fronteirs. they tend to appreciate that

and you forgot to add bracer of zo'arkat to you artis that you need, the level 5 ability is absolutely priceless when it comes to interupting in rvr (which after all is your job)

i would advise you to ask around alittle and browse the forums to see what templates are around etc. if you PM me ingame i can send you a few templates i have

 

[Mithryn]

IMO GoV and other casting speed items suit a bard better than CS. You can't use the chant on it anyway as you can only have 1 running. CS also has +acuity cap which is not much of use. GoV on the other hand has 5 dex cap and 4% casting speed. Only thing is that GoV is expensive/hard to get.

GOV isnt all that good for bard, it gives you 4% spell damage and 4% spell range, the range is easily gotten elsewhere. The druid/warden version of the GOV gives castingspeed though, but thats hardly relevant.

I use GOV in my template, but thats rather because of the looks and dex-cap than anything else. GSV has better utility and much better level 5/10 abilities aswell as the same bonus (range/dmg), so its a much better choice. Most of the reason I took the GOV instead of GSV I guess was cause of the leveling, I couldnt stand killing scarabs forever, but now that they all level in Frontiers it might even be time to redo the template.

Yes, Cloudsong isnt all that good for bard, but it has the handy 5% castingspeed and its not that easy to get on the good items. So I have it in my template, but ofcourse will never get any use of the chant.

Good luck.

 

[lokkedue]

take dream sphere instead of eoy imo, if u can put a nice template around it.

 

[Divinia]

nice tips rly.

 

[liloe]

what about you post your template divm8 =)) too lazy to search FH for it (if you posted it) =))

 

[Divinia]

what about you post your template divm8 =)) too lazy to search FH for it (if you posted it) =))

never posted mine, but i could.. dunno if poster wanna get cloak of hb/gov/immolated/torrent etc. tho.

 

[Divinia]

oh and yes, dont forget that GSV is best torso for bards.