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I think that I'd sign the severance agreement and then, if they called, just say "I can't remember".
 

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For all my dislike of Socialists I am so glad they have had and do have a voice in our society. American employment law is broken (Like a lot of things in America)
 

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Yes...go to server root...type in delete *.*
 

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I've been called by previous companies a couple of times in the past, but I think I'd have felt rather differently about it if I'd been given the push, and I certainly wasn't under any obligation to help.

As for this shit, the only real leverage the company has is future references, even American labour laws can't coerce you to work for free.
 

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I have been too but it was made clear in my redundancy that I would be compensated and that they would work around me. I went in for a couple of hours to help out and got a couple of hundred quid for my trouble.
 

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Disgraceful but not surprising.

During the RBS batch meltdown a couple of years ago (offshore fuckup, as per), the CEO was contacting ex-techies directly looking for help. I believe some of them told him to get in the fucking sea.

The thing is, having worked in IT for 13 years, I can see this from both angles. On one side, the risky, aggressive and reckless offshore model is asking for trouble when things go wrong, but on the other hand IT attracts a lot of dead wood - old, grumpy, belligerent men unwilling to do more than the minimum because they're not far off retirement. Sure, they're incredibly knowledgeable and in with the bricks, but they need to be replaced eventually so their unwillingness to back-fill to younger, fresher people because of their own self interest is harmful.

Another angle is that perhaps if banks stopped hanging on to out of support legacy shite then they'd not have such people hanging about.
 

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Disgraceful but not surprising.

During the RBS batch meltdown a couple of years ago (offshore fuckup, as per), the CEO was contacting ex-techies directly looking for help. I believe some of them told him to get in the fucking sea.

The thing is, having worked in IT for 13 years, I can see this from both angles. On one side, the risky, aggressive and reckless offshore model is asking for trouble when things go wrong, but on the other hand IT attracts a lot of dead wood - old, grumpy, belligerent men unwilling to do more than the minimum because they're not far off retirement. Sure, they're incredibly knowledgeable and in with the bricks, but they need to be replaced eventually so their unwillingness to back-fill to younger, fresher people because of their own self interest is harmful.

Another angle is that perhaps if banks stopped hanging on to out of support legacy shite then they'd not have such people hanging about.

Wasn't the RBS CEO an absolute bell end too?
 

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All of them, generally, are arseholes.
 

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There were some fucker here in Sweden and part of the management who covered up a crash, many people lost everything there and then and there's still a twist going on where people are trying to sue this guy, and investigations on the way. Hagström & Qviberg @ HQ bank. Cunts.
 

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All banks are cunts. I would keep my money under the mattress if I could be arsed to go to the post office to pay bills and Amazon accepted cash on delivery.
 

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I can kind of see where they're coming from, but uncompensated is a stretch, especially if they just get standard compensation, typically 1-2 weeks pay per year worked. Two years is an insanely long time though. Who the hell remembers anything after even 6 months?

After I left RBS, I would occasionally get calls about broken shit, usually about the inner workings of obscure processes or regulatory issues I was directly involved with. I'd do the best I could at the time, but made it clear that I couldn't assist during my existing office hours. About 2 months after I left, I got a call at 3AM saying server had crashed and my name and private cell phone number was on a yellow sticky note attached to server. They didn't know who owned it, details were lost in the ABN Amro takeover... I gave them the name of the head of my IT department. Calls stopped after that :)

We just went through an inverse offshoring at my current company. Years of offshore knowledge down the drain, local US workers hired. Hiring quality people is insanely hard. Hiring them at reasonable rates is even harder. Now my management has realised it will be too expensive to do it all from the USA, so a lot of the work has been handed over to a cheaper vendor in India. The knowledge is still gone though. Should I ever get outsourced, I'll be sure to ask for $1,000 an hour!
 

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