bainshees - zerg killers

[scorge]

just a quote from the VN boards, its best to play the class before you can really tell, but in an 8vX group they should do very well.

http://vnboards.ign.com/DAoC_General_Board/b5176/83734851/?14

I totally am in agreement with Brannigan on this one. I have group with tons of Bainshees now, and they are not single target nuking. Where they are raking in the RP's is killing zergs. Some with the AoE bolts, but the CAE spells are bringing in a ton of RPs. On the KIP cluster there was a fight for about 1 week at the ruins around Blendrake T3 (BG6 we called it). The CAE went through walls and the Alb cows never figured it out.

Bascially the class is a zerg killer, right up there with animists. I don't see a Bainshee having anywhere near the overpowered 1 vs 1 capability of a Warlock. But, what am I to say - I'm playing most Hib with a little Alb on the side these days.

 

[Deathspike]

i will try one out in thid to see if i like Thxs for info

 

[Ogen]

Rofl so albs whine about a hib caster claiming it to be nerfed to hell.. And when they compare it to sorcs they just yell " No no, sorcs have been out since the start! They cannot be nerfed" ..


Imho if they arent gonna nerf sorcs, i dont see the harm in mid/hib getting a slightly overpowered class for a change.. Afterall albs still got reaver bombs/loads of sorcs(cc)/twice our numbers, etc .. want me to go on?

 

[Knolan]

Imho if they arent gonna nerf sorcs, i dont see the harm in mid/hib getting a slightly overpowered class for a change.. Afterall albs still got reaver bombs/loads of sorcs(cc)/twice our numbers, etc .. want me to go on?

i would indeed not call a bainshee OP, you indeed meet a lot of sorces (that often are crap anyway) reaverbombs, be real how many reavers do you see in rvr that are RR5+ and have ML8.

conclusion: hibs casters have baseline stun, where is the problem with alb casters/reavers?

oh and something else, mid getting slightly OP'ed classes? ( LOL )

 

[Ogen]

i would indeed not call a bainshee OP, you indeed meet a lot of sorces (that often are crap anyway) reaverbombs, be real how many reavers do you see in rvr that are RR5+ and have ML8.

conclusion: hibs casters have baseline stun, where is the problem with alb casters/reavers?

oh and something else, mid getting slightly OP'ed classes? ( LOL )

The problem with sorc is that it is a CC class with major dmg output.. And therefore alot of people play them.. Compare it to the thought of chanters having long range aoe mess instead of pb.. You wouldnt call that OP?
I dont really know if banshees are OP or not.. But if their pb chant goes through keep/tower walls, that will deffo be changed/nerfed.
And why there isnt alot of reavers around? I dunno, maybe the albs are to clueless to realize that they rock or summit..

 

[Knolan]

The problem with sorc is that it is a CC class with major dmg output.. And therefore alot of people play them.. Compare it to the thought of chanters having long range aoe mess instead of pb.. You wouldnt call that OP?
I dont really know if banshees are OP or not.. But if their pb chant goes through keep/tower walls, that will deffo be changed/nerfed.
And why there isnt alot of reavers around? I dunno, maybe the albs are to clueless to realize that they rock or summit..

think its the PvE aspect that makes people lose faith in reavers noone wants then in their PvE grp so they are hard to lvl. then again there is always the stupid circle that makes ppl not take certain ppl in their grp's cuz they are to low RR and therefore will never get a high RR.

i shall not deny that a good played sorc is a hard 1 to kill, but a badly played sorc should not be much trouble for any hib caster with stun.

we have 1 class with to much utility, and the rest lacks in it.

would like to know your motivation about the mid part tho, you cant deny mids have seriously better classes, simply because they started DAoC with less classes to divide the same amount of skills in.

 

[Huntingtons]

Imho if they arent gonna nerf sorcs, i dont see the harm in mid/hib getting a slightly overpowered class for a change.. Afterall albs still got reaver bombs/loads of sorcs(cc)/twice our numbers, etc .. want me to go on?

you shouldn't nerf a class coz of realm numbers, or people playing the class - reaverbomb's aren't that dangerous, sure every 15th min or so. Sorc's are OP but only coz of their rr5 ra, nerf that maybe. but if banshee's can nuke through walls and pwn zergs like they claim, it needs a nerf no doubt.

 

[Knolan]

you shouldn't nerf a class coz of realm numbers, or people playing the class - reaverbomb's aren't that dangerous, sure every 15th min or so. Sorc's are OP but only coz of their rr5 ra, nerf that maybe. but if banshee's can nuke through walls and pwn zergs like they claim, it needs a nerf no doubt.

totally agree

 

[Huntingtons]

then again there is always the stupid circle that makes ppl not take certain ppl in their grp's cuz they are to low RR and therefore will never get a high RR.QUOTE]

that's pure bull, every person started out low rr, never getting grp's but eventually they get high rr ;o if they continue playing ofc ;> it requires an efford making a grp work tho, you can't go to ligen yelling LFG and hoping rr5 rolls in like that if you dont know any

 

[Ogen]

you shouldn't nerf a class coz of realm numbers, or people playing the class - reaverbomb's aren't that dangerous, sure every 15th min or so. Sorc's are OP but only coz of their rr5 ra, nerf that maybe. but if banshee's can nuke through walls and pwn zergs like they claim, it needs a nerf no doubt.

Ardd, take a few runs in NF and then tell me if sorcs need nerf
Sorcs arent OP cuz of their RR5A only.. Actually i can allmoust live with that.
The thing is they have to much util imo.. speed/pet/lifetap(wich is proven to have a insta debuff)/1875 range aoe mess/35% mess timer reduction grp buff/ str con insta aoe debuff / Power regen / Aoe Root. All this is possiple to get in the same spec..

 

[Knolan]

then again there is always the stupid circle that makes ppl not take certain ppl in their grp's cuz they are to low RR and therefore will never get a high RR.QUOTE]

that's pure bull, every person started out low rr, never getting grp's but eventually they get high rr ;o if they continue playing ofc ;> it requires an efford making a grp work tho, you can't go to ligen yelling LFG and hoping rr5 rolls in like that if you dont know any

that indeed would work your way in OF, but in the alb situation atm in NF, it seems like everybody is trying to solo.

random grps are comming back lately tho.

i personally do not have a problem with finding grps.

 

[Knolan]

Ardd, take a few runs in NF and then tell me if sorcs need nerf
Sorcs arent OP cuz of their RR5A only.. Actually i can allmoust live with that.
The thing is they have to much util imo.. speed/pet/lifetap(wich is proven to have a insta debuff)/1875 range aoe mess/35% mess timer reduction grp buff/ str con insta aoe debuff / Power regen / Aoe Root. All this is possiple to get in the same spec..

thats only if you spec 40/36 meaning you will get resisted a lot on your spells w/o a proper suit/RR

you forget dex/quick insta AoE debuff btw

 

[Ogen]

thats only if you spec 40/36 meaning you will get resisted a lot on your spells w/o a proper suit/RR

you forget dex/quick insta AoE debuff btw

There is a RA to prevent that And its 44/31 spec.. And aye they get a d/q debuff to just figured i had said enough..
Try meeting a sorc.. he mess you with highest mess. then debuff all your stats.. then roots you and nukes you with fastest nuke in game for 400+ crits..
Util?

 

[Ilum]

Or 44/31?

 

[Huntingtons]

which debuff is in the lifetap?

 

[Ogen]

which debuff is in the lifetap?

Well body i suppose And its bugged.. Thats why a baseline lifetap with 30 in the spec line can hit you for 400+

 

[Ilum]

Sorc lifetap outdamages its spec nuke ^^

 

[Scunner]

The problem with sorc is that it is a CC class with major dmg output.. And therefore alot of people play them.. Compare it to the thought of chanters having long range aoe mess instead of pb.. You wouldnt call that OP?
I dont really know if banshees are OP or not.. But if their pb chant goes through keep/tower walls, that will deffo be changed/nerfed.
And why there isnt alot of reavers around? I dunno, maybe the albs are to clueless to realize that they rock or summit..

As opposed to a CC class wearing chain With Instant cc.

 

[Scunner]

you shouldn't nerf a class coz of realm numbers, or people playing the class - reaverbomb's aren't that dangerous, sure every 15th min or so. Sorc's are OP but only coz of their rr5 ra, nerf that maybe. but if banshee's can nuke through walls and pwn zergs like they claim, it needs a nerf no doubt.

Aye although need to wait and see it for myself

 

[scorge]

How the hell did this thread turn into a Sorcerer QQ thread, i didn't even mention them.

 

[Knolan]

How the hell did this thread turn into a Sorcerer QQ thread, i didn't even mention them.

this aint QQ tbh...

qq goes like: OMG im a bonedancer and the bloody sorc mezzed my pets and when i insta lifetapt him he didnt die but fired moc and killed me.. how can a BD lose.. sorces need a proper nerf tbh!

 

[Deathspike]

 

[Everz]

hmm.. Anyways ill make a bainshee.. already statrted gettin stuff ready for it

 

[Garbannoch]

think it's the perfect class for hibs; we dont need another mage for gank groups (think eld takes up that role pretty well - also mana chanter is still nice till they fix the insta interrupt)
bainshees will be good for one thing and one thing only: decimating zergs and keep fights; personally I can't see bainshee taking a spot in an rvr group - it lacks utility and tbh a 223 delve nuke wont do much more dmg than a 209 one. CAE DD seems to be fun against zergs especially when you got a couple of bainshees but same could be said about pbaoers actually.
Only catacombs class that will take the piss is warlock - it will be 10 times worse than bonedancers ever were: being able to chamber up spells and fire them instantly then crawl back behind the keep wall and reload them is retarded...
Btw saw a lot of whine about heretic monster rez on the VN boards. Now it turned out that a shapeshift (e.g. band of stars) or the battlemaster ml10 style cancels the monster form and the enemy will be turned back to normal mode with 10% health

 

[Aardwolf]

hmm i though Vampiir was Oped but looked at this vid of banshee and realizad how stupidly they are OPed too. i guess need to roll 2 ftw .

http://max.nitordesign.se/Bainsheerr8.wmv

 

[Edaemos]

Btw saw a lot of whine about heretic monster rez on the VN boards. Now it turned out that a shapeshift (e.g. band of stars) or the battlemaster ml10 style cancels the monster form and the enemy will be turned back to normal mode with 10% health

Its being appealed as a bug and will hopefully be fixed soon. Will be nice for albion to get a class to combat the ridiculus amounts of shrooms used by hibs nowadays in sieges.

 

[Mckennitt]

For all Albs : Go back in your cave and crawl like u used to be..

I really hope Banshees are OPed cause was about time to deal with your ridicullus ammount of 100000000000000 millions albs - mr - spam - one - button - players...

QQ go and whine somewhere else..

Love ya

Mck

 

[Edaemos]

For all Albs : Go back in your cave and crawl like u used to be..

I really hope Banshees are OPed cause was about time to deal with your ridicullus ammount of 100000000000000 millions albs - mr - spam - one - button - players...

QQ go and whine somewhere else..

Love ya

Mck

Mummy gave you too much sugar this morning son?

 

[Vodkafairy]

shrug, bainshees are comparable to fire wizards really. high damage, no utility. sure it's nice to play one, sure it might look overpowered against people that have crap equipment and crap resists but doesn't everything?

it's not much different from pbae bombing zergs, something all realms can do. why do you think not many sm's and wizards are pbae specced anymore? exactely, no utility, no use against proper groups

its new, its kinda fun, but nothing spectacular

 

[Mckennitt]

Edaemos said: Mummy gave you too much sugar this morning son?

I love you too lovely