Bad Things happen in ML7 pres with Nelofar

[zorbas]

I like to inform the ppl that before start the raid Nelofar inform me that we need Ice Wizz because we don't have, and me to post to as and to say also that he can have a few plat also.

At the end of the raid we lotto only the scrolls , everybody of 8 of us took one and the rest of the scrolls Nelofar keep it saying to me that the scrolls cost only 5g.

All the other items plates , cloths etc Nelofar mention that he salvage it because not cost money.


This is not very nice from him.
Pls inform me if I have right.

Thank you

George

 

[Golena]

Your an idiot if you think that someone who ORGANISED an ML7 raid so that you could get credit is greedy for keeping a 2 gold drop instead of wasting 3 hours lottoing them.

Never been on an ml7 raid that bothered lottoing 2g scrolls, all the rogs in there are useless junk anyway.

I could also see the raid on my housemates screen, that would be the WIZARD who had to pull because non of the tanks were prepared to mr 50 armsman.

Go back to your hole, and stop whining! It's IDIOTS like you that mean people stop organising raids!

 

[Muldini]

Items were < 99% and it was said a few times that i'll salvage them after posting them in grp-window to give ppl the chance to mention that they have interest which would have lead to not salvaging them. No respond = No Interest.

Thx to those who shown up btw, raid was fun and we got the steps cu soon.

Greetz,
Nelofar

 

[Puppet]

Depends really; 'organising' a ML7 pre-steps raid aint exactly thát hard. Pretty much a normal XP-group in a remote-are with a pre-requirement (ML3+)

I never heard of someone in AC who 'organises a XP-group to keep all drops'. So from that PoV its a silly attitude.

However lottoing ROG-crap like cloth sleeves AF51 93% qua 12 str 17 dex 9 qui 4% heat isnt something most people bother with. Neither are scroll drops like, iirc, Regarding Shades 2/3

From my organised ML7 groupsteps I just collected all loot; on the end I sorted quickly the 'valuable' items (Regarding Shades 3/3, Elemental Heat component, the shields from ML7 etc) - lotto'ed those first; then dragged all 'crap' in the BG and asked people if they where interested in anything; state it --> if needed lotto.

Rest of the ROG's where given out randomly to those interested and most likely salvaged or sold or used on an alt.

In all honesty: I dont expect anyone who's level 50, ML3+ to be interested in ROG's which are same quality or less then the typical Avalon City crap And some scrolls are so common they arent worth 'anything'.

 

[Puppet]

Items were < 99% and it was said a few times that i'll salvage them after posting them in grp-window to give ppl the chance to mention that they have interest which would have lead to not salvaging them. No respond = No Interest.

Thx to those who shown up btw, raid was fun and we got the steps cu soon.

Greetz,
Nelofar

Sounds more then fair to me then; silly complaint from topic-starter

 

[Moggit]

I cant believe this post was even started if the guy who started this post had not of been afk on the raid he would of been there for the conversation in group about the rogs and it being agreed that they would be droped in group and if anyone wanted they should say something.

I do have screenies and if anyone really wants me to post them i will.
and with regards to the scrolls they were all droped in the group if there was something that he couldent afford to get( 1g is exspensive to some people) then he could of just said.

 

[zorbas]

I don't want to reply for this matter just I like to say to the all the group leaders of a raids pls inform the ppl clearly about the drops.
For some ppl is worth also the 10 g. drop.

Thank you

George

 

[Moggit]

if 10g is that important to you come to house 922 and i will give you a 10g scroll or 10g in cash

 

[Muldini]

I don't want to reply for this matter just I like to say to the all the group leaders of a raids pls inform the ppl clearly about the drops.
For some ppl is worth also the 10 g. drop.

Thank you

George

More clearly than i did? Plz show me how i should do that so i know for further raids.

I wonder why all the other grp members knew exactly(!) about the salvage thing ... ur post is just ridiculous.

Nelofar

 

[Golena]

If 10g is that important to you try reading group chat. It was stated clearly, you just wern't at the keyboard to see it!

 

[Loonatik]

All lotto/drop rules were clearly stated and accepted by all group members (at least nobody said different in public). If you thought something was wrong you should have said so on the spot, not in this forum.

 

[Anny]

Zorbas ...... YOU NOOB !!!
i cant tell what you have a problem with from your origional post, are you pissed that you didnt get a scroll you wanted ??? or a piece of rog armour ???

cant be the scroll because you say everybody got one, the armour then..... nope cant be that because there was a discussion in group chat about the rog junk

it was clearly stated what was going to happen to the rogs and the whole group agreed, if you were AFK while raid decisions were being discussed then in my opinion you dont even deserve credit for the steps

lastly and most importantly

who the F**K do you think you are to flame a guy and throw his name into question, who picked up a leaderless ml7 pre steps raid and sucsessfully completed it resulting in everybody getting credit, INCLUDING YOU !

i am in shock that you have had the nerve to post about this and as far as i am concerned your out of any events/raids i have anything to do with at any point in the furture as long as i still play DAOC

 

[Oakraid]

Zorb, think u r out of order here m8. Would like to thank all in gp for making it happen when it could easily have been shelved. If you felt the lotto wasn't done right you should have said at the time, don't think it would have been a problem from the little I saw, seemed like Nel did it as fairly as possible.
Would like to apologize to Sab if no-one else would pull, since that was clearly a problem for some, but I was up on my roof fixing a leak for almost the whole raid (clearly stated before the raid).

 

[zorbas]

M8s you have to know that i don't care about money .
I care about principle and the principle is tha the drops need to be divided.
I can have as many plat as possible just i like the drops of the raid to be for everybody and not salvage it.
Now if the rule was for salvage it i din't know about that.

Thank you

George

 

[Flimgoblin]

usually the salvage drops aren't worth the time it takes to lotto them, but it sounds like they agreed that in /g first anyway

(I usually give them out at random if I'm leading something to whoever has the patience to last the full normal lotto but that's just my preference)

read your scrollback when you come back from /afk next time

now say sorry for blowing your top where it really wasn't needed and people will probably think a bit better of you

 

[rampant]

quick question zorbas - whats more important:

ML credit OR
10g?

If someone does a ML hunt - and shows initiative and leadership, then show a bit of respect will u - dont be a complete tit - if you want the drops that much arrange your own ml hunt. Now please apologise to nelofar - you are bang out of order....

 

[Shannesa]

MY own experiance as aml leader and prestps leader is thapeoople come fore Prestps to get those down any looto is just abonus

I have run alouf of presteps +Ml raids i have even play with nelofar in quete some mls

if the group and the mls agree on that certian scrolls can be keep by the rid leaderi seeno prb with that 99.9 % time its just verry low scrolls you can bought fore between 5 to 10 gold in houseing

Aboaul salavge loot most do not wannt to have those they ask the leader to salaveg them directly

In my case when i hold a raid indepent if its a ml or Prests shan can not do soo so i have a good freind after read help me salavge them .


Nelofar did as the group told him to do as i see it

 

[Annisa]

read your scrollback when you come back from /afk next time now say sorry for blowing your top where it really wasn't needed and people will probably think a bit better of you

Nelofar for president!

 

[rampant]

Nelofar for president!

i wouldnt go that far..........