Bad America....

[GimpStrole]

Following the Tsunami, which has caused mass devastation in parts of Asia, it appears to me that America are doing a terrible job in helping. Brits have raised over 76m which is expected to rise to over 100m. As for America....well... their pledge was 50m (not sure what it is now). I personally find it disgusting, not many realise how little that is compared to the amount they spend on aircraft or tanks. America are about to scrap the Eurofighter for a new plane, can't remember the name which appeared in a newspaper the other day. However these planes will cost just over 90m each to produce, and America are looking to buy 277 of these.

See my point?

I definately will not be donating any money towards North America if it gets hit by the tidal wave caused by a massive landslide in the Canary islands.
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,31500-1147047,00.html

QQ finished, maybe I'll write to Bush himself next :kissit:

 

[Saggy]

Erm, Bush is giving 350 000 000 $ and already sent 12 000 soldiers there to help At the moment USA is the biggest helper out there if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Wij]

Erm, Bush is giving 350 000 000 $ and already sent 12 000 soldiers there to help At the moment USA is the biggest helper out there if I'm not mistaken.

Aye - tis indeed. Dumb USA-bashing is the staple diet of these forums imo.

 

[GimpStrole]

Erm, Bush is giving 350 000 000 $ and already sent 12 000 soldiers there to help At the moment USA is the biggest helper out there if I'm not mistaken.

Well I'm sure thats the amount that hes earnt from taking oil in Iraq, Mr.Bush is so generous...

 

[Saggy]

Well I'm sure thats the amount that hes earnt from taking oil in Iraq, Mr.Bush is so generous...

Same for Brits' 76mil then? It wasn't just Yanks who went there you know

 

[GimpStrole]

Same for Brits' 76mil then? It wasn't just Yanks who went there you know

For 60million people to donate 76mil (and will hit over 100m apparantly) its very good considering not all 60 million have money to donate. My sister works at HSBC working on the telephones, and she had a call the other day where a woman who already has an overdraft around 100pounds made a donation of 150pounds. Doubt everyone will be doing this but it's good to know some people are doing it.

And for America they should dig a little deeper.

90m X 277 = 2493,000,000 (approx. 2.5billion?)

I've never been that good at maths, but their donation is approx 1/7 of what they will spend on new aircraft. I'm sure the aircraft can wait, there's more important things to worry about like all the Earth's plates moving creating more tidal waves, global warming and definately donating to help other countries.

 

[Saggy]

That 350 000 000$ is what USA goverment is giving and doesn't include a single copper from what the citizens have donated (and they have donated lots too). 45 nations have donated ~2billion in total and USA's share from that is over 15% which is more than enough.

Found absolutely nothing about that airplane order and does it really even matter? It's not like the rest of nations have gave up on their plans on "wasting" cash on stuff they need?

 

[Belomar]

Surely this is best taken to the Off-Topic forum?

 

[Saggy]

Well, found this

LONDON, Dec 15 2004 (Reuters) - The British government said on Wednesday it had signed a contract for a second tranche of Eurofighter combat jets worth 4.3 billion pounds ($8.3 billion).

 

[Keres]

Following the , which has caused mass devastation in parts of Asia, it appears to me that America are doing a terrible job in helping. Brits have raised over 76m which is expected to rise to over 100m. As for America....well... their pledge was 50m (not sure what it is now). I personally find it disgusting, not many realise how little that is compared to the amount they spend on aircraft or tanks. America are about to scrap the Eurofighter for a new plane, can't remember the name which appeared in a newspaper the other day. However these planes will cost just over 90m each to produce, and America are looking to buy 277 of these.

See my point?

I definately will not be donating any money towards North America if it gets hit by the tidal wave caused by a massive landslide in the Canary islands.
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,31500-1147047,00.html


QQ finished, maybe I'll write to Bush himself next :kissit:

So you whine about something that you don't have the full details...

Erm, Bush is giving 350 000 000 $ and already sent 12 000 soldiers there to help At the moment USA is the biggest helper out there if I'm not mistaken.

...Which is given to you to find out that the Americans have offered the largest amount of aid for the countries hit by the Tsunami then...

Well I'm sure thats the amount that hes earnt from taking oil in Iraq, Mr.Bush is so generous...

...you respond with an immature reply and continue to bash the US.

Grow up.

 

[Straef]

Erm, Bush is giving 350 000 000 $ and already sent 12 000 soldiers there to help At the moment USA is the biggest helper out there if I'm not mistaken.

That was after he got whined at tho, he only donated a tiny bit at first.

 

[Zapsi]

Look at it PR citizen imo as allways countries like sweden denmark on top Where are the Norwegians they suppose to have most money of all PR citizen prob why they have that

 

[GimpStrole]

So you whine about something that you don't have the full details...



...Which is given to you to find out that the Americans have offered the largest amount of aid for the countries hit by the Tsunami then...



...you respond with an immature reply and continue to bash the US.

Grow up.

Shutup and get something done about that forhead of yours.

 

[GimpStrole]

Originally Posted by Reuters
LONDON, Dec 15 2004 (Reuters) - The British government said on Wednesday it had signed a contract for a second tranche of Eurofighter combat jets worth 4.3 billion pounds ($8.3 billion).

Dec 15, Tsunami didn't occur then....

 

[Saggy]

Dec 15, Tsunami didn't occur then....

Yes, but surely those planes can wait and UK could donate the cash for more important things such as the ones you listed above? Still found nothing about that Yanks plane order, got any url to give?

 

[Fisiodifis]

Hey guys are u serious?Why u think usa sent army and help there?Do u know how many military bases usa has all arount the world?This money and help is to "throw us dirt in our eyes"(meaning:decieving).Just realize that usa is "spreading" all over the world and wants to stay number one force.

 

[GimpStrole]

Yes, but surely those planes can wait and UK could donate the cash for more important things such as the ones you listed above? Still found nothing about that Yanks plane order, got any url to give?

I read it in the Daily Mirror 2 days ago so can't give url. I'm sure the planes can wait and maybe they have waited, guess someone will have to find out ^^

 

[Saggy]

I read it in the Daily Mirror 2 days ago so can't give url. I'm sure the planes can wait and maybe they have waited, guess someone will have to find out ^^

Same for US planes Neither of them have donated the billions they are planned on using planes though.

Anyway, only thing you can blame Yanks on is the slow reaction (well, all of the nations were "too" slow really), apart from that they have helped the most. Sure, they can help more but so can everyone else too ;o

 

[Morchaoron]

why the hell is this on prydwen/general anyway Oo

 

[Keres]

Shutup and get something done about that forhead of yours.

You hurt my feelings....you really did....

 

[Jeimas]

Look at it PR citizen imo as allways countries like sweden denmark on top Where are the Norwegians they suppose to have most money of all PR citizen prob why they have that

Heh, well imo I think norwegians have been pretty good at giving.
People, companies and labor unions have given about 342 million NOK, that's about 74 mill NOK a person.
The gvmnt have given 100 million NOK, and are planning on giving another 1 billion NOK. That's another 240 mill a person, that's about 314 mill NOK a person or abit over $50 million a person total...
The only uncertain here is if the last billion from the gvmt will go through in the parliment, and even if it doesn't, that's still $15 million a person so far...

 

[Fafnir]

Saw an interview with Colin Powel when he announced what help US would send to the area all sounded good until he had to go into specifics of what kind of people they where helping. Muslims and Christians, dont think this has anything thing to do with the people needing help. They are HUMANS not some sort of religion. Think this is one of US biggest problems they always have to see it as we and them.

 

[Xeanor]

I don't watch tv and I don't give a shit about anyone I don't personally know.

Yes, I'm happy with my life.

Why the fuck would anyone whine about others not spending their money?

And I'll never donate to charity, because I think the money won't end where it belongs.

 

[Belomar]

Look, everybody, a true Renaissance Man!

 

[Xeanor]

Look, everybody, a true Renaissance Man!

Not really.

 

[Morchaoron]

yeah well i dont like the whining that people could have given more either, Michael Schumacher gave $10 million and still people were bitching "yeah $10 million he has like $300+ million, like thats generous.. NOT", thats really disgusting, some people have much more money who didnt even have to work for it and they dont even THINK about giving anything at all..

they should be happy he gave something (and 10 mil isnt just 'something') because even tho he has shitloads, its his money and its up to him to decide what to do with it...

 

[Chronictank]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4145259.stm

Britain
$96m in government donations, plus $146m in private donations which the government has pledged to match

USA
$350m in government donations

Japan
$500m in government donations

Germany
Berlin has now increased its aid pledge to $674m

Australia
Prime Minister John Howard pledges $765m (over £400m) to Indonesia over five years

 

[GimpStrole]

Bill Gates made a donation yet?

The rich bastard

 

[Fafnir]

Bill Gates made a donation yet?

The rich bastard

Have you made a donation yet?

 

[Saggy]

Bill Gates made a donation yet?

The rich bastard

Actually yes, he has "Only" $3mil though.