Advice Backpain

Lamp

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Calling all FH Doctors!

Never suffered from it before, not about to

Reached down in car this morning to grab something. Must have been at a weird angle and then ouch!

Its muscular (I think - intercostal? intercontinental? internet?), bottom of rib cage, left of spine. Doesn't hurt all the time, just when I move funny or do anything normal, then it hurts like feck.

Recommend shit to take for it. Ibuprofen gel? Deep heat? Some medieval ointment?

Just quaffed 2 ibuprofen
 

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Wait a couple of days, don't overdo painkillers and then if it persists go see a f*cking doctor :p

Other then that, you've got lower left back AIDS. It's from bumming homeless cats usually.
 

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Aye, just what I thought. Its either back AIDS, hardpad, distemper, or ebola.

My Mrs is very sympathetic. Everytime I yelp she laughs her ass off. Hard to laugh with a broken jaw...
 

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Hello Mr. Lamp, I hear you're having a back problem. In my vast knowledge(points to certificates recently printed with running ink on the wall that haven't even had time to be framed, instead a frame has been crudely drawn around them with crayons) of Doctorizing, I would suggest removing the back by decapitating the head and removing the limbs, it's the only way to be sure and would likely stop you coming back in the event of Zombie Apocalypse, at least in most cases. In the dark you could use yourself as a kind of Bear Trap Zombie head which could at least slow down the pesky humans that are trying to survive.

Warning may cause death.
 

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I would suggest you go straight to the doctor and have it looked at, my
sister has been having back problems (see the NHS thread) and it turned out its a tumor at the base of her spine.
Don't take any fucking risks is my advice.
 

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Have a bath, always sorts me out.

On another note, when I was at my friends house, I had cramp in my right leg as I was sleeping, night after, I had cramp in my left leg - fun times.
 

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Sounds like you pinched the nerve, have a word with your doctor and he will probably prescribe diclofenac (anti-inflam) but perhaps alot a painkiller if you are struggling. The thing with back pain, rest for a day but no more, take the anti-inflams and keep moving around for the best results.
 

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I'll see what its like in the morning.

Apparently chocolate eclairs help.
 

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You can take paracetamol and ibuprofen at the same time (make sure your ibuprofen are just that, and dont have added paracetamol or you'll overdose).
Hot showers and gel packs might help.
Simply a case of waiting for it to wear off.

If you still have it in 3 weeks go see your GP, if it gets lots worse or you start getting tingly legs/feet etc.
 

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2 chocolate eclairs + 2 ibuprofen + 1x500mg paracetamol + hot shower. Feeling better.
 

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I blame your missus for making you drag the fridge half way around the kitchen
 

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Ibuprofen 400mg 8 hrly taken WITH food, paracetamol 1g 6 hrly. Paracetamol and ibuprofen work differently in the body and work very well together....can be as effective as opioids. Ice packs for 15 mins every hour whilst you're awake, (always ice for an acute injury, never heat) and keep moving. The doc will tell you exactly what I have just typed and tell you to come back in a week if no better, unless you can't actually move in which case they may prescribe stronger painkillers and perhaps an xray. Personally, I always go to an osteopath if my back plays up and they can often help a lot very quickly and give you some gentle movements which won't aggravate the injury.
 

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Ibuprofen 400mg 8 hrly taken WITH food, paracetamol 1g 6 hrly. Paracetamol and ibuprofen work differently in the body and work very well together....can be as effective as opioids. Ice packs for 15 mins every hour whilst you're awake, (always ice for an acute injury, never heat) and keep moving. The doc will tell you exactly what I have just typed and tell you to come back in a week if no better, unless you can't actually move in which case they may prescribe stronger painkillers and perhaps an xray. Personally, I always go to an osteopath if my back plays up and they can often help a lot very quickly and give you some gentle movements which won't aggravate the injury.

Osteopath made my condition worse, pushed the disc out further and I ended up having surgery a few weeks later I was in so much pain. If your back is a mess then you should go see someone with real medical training such as a physio, far too many Osteopath's with poor training and dodgy qualifications.
 

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I have a gammy shoulder, fucking thing keeps me up at night, turning over in the bed is like some herculean effort
 

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I have a gammy shoulder, fucking thing keeps me up at night, turning over in the bed is like some herculean effort

Nasty, I don't envy you, I had 2 days of shoulder pain and no sleep. That's enough for a lifetime.
 

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Osteopath made my condition worse, pushed the disc out further and I ended up having surgery a few weeks later I was in so much pain. If your back is a mess then you should go see someone with real medical training such as a physio, far too many Osteopath's with poor training and dodgy qualifications.

TBH Osteo's and Chiro's are just as good at treating these problems, just from a different perspective, aiming towards the same result (I speak as a Physio). Just with any profession, you get shit physios, chiropractors, osteopaths, it's the person not the profession.

Did the Osteo thrust your joints when there was a suspected disc bulge then? Bit of a spacker if so.
 

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They always told me to treat muscle problems with heat and tendons and joints with cold.
I suggest a nice hot gel pack...
 

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Put a tennis ball where the agony is and roll on it on the floor. Works wonders.
 

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TBH Osteo's and Chiro's are just as good at treating these problems, just from a different perspective, aiming towards the same result (I speak as a Physio). Just with any profession, you get shit physios, chiropractors, osteopaths, it's the person not the profession.

Did the Osteo thrust your joints when there was a suspected disc bulge then? Bit of a spacker if so.

Mate, it felt like he Big Bob'ed me. Was lay on one side, legs split and he was twisting my core to try get the disc back in. Suffice to say the cunt left me in bits and charged me £50 for the privledge. If he had actually been listening to what I was saying then he should never have performed the treatment, I had classic signs of nerve root compression and I should have been sent to hospital.
 

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Osteopathy is a quack profession. Not as dangerous as chiro but it's still alt-med.
 

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Either profession do very little different from Physiotherapists. No therapy is dangerous if done for the right person, right time, right reason.
 

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No therapy is dangerous if done for the right person, right time, right reason.
That's pretty much tautological. In reality chiro IS dangerous. Neither osteo nor chiro have any evidence behind them.
 

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Backpain all gone :)

Have decided to try those bendy things on my legs out (knees, I think they're called). Never know, they might actually do something.
 

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You probably twisted as you were lifting, that causes all kinds of problems. I do a lot of lifting in my job, it's surprising how many people lift with their back and not their legs.
 

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That's pretty much tautological. In reality chiro IS dangerous. Neither osteo nor chiro have any evidence behind them.

As a Physio I can do the exact same treatment as a chiro or an osteo, just as it works in reverse, and we all work from the same evidence base, so I'm not really sure how a Physio treating is much different to another rehab professional? Bar the philosophy on which its based.

Take a PT/Chiro/Osteo of 20 years experience each, I can say with pretty much certainty they will all use the same methodology just in a slightly different manner.
 

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As a Physio I can do the exact same treatment as a chiro or an osteo, just as it works in reverse, and we all work from the same evidence base, so I'm not really sure how a Physio treating is much different to another rehab professional? Bar the philosophy on which its based.

Take a PT/Chiro/Osteo of 20 years experience each, I can say with pretty much certainty they will all use the same methodology just in a slightly different manner.
PTs don't claim to be able to cure asthma, period pain or depression.
 

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