Aug acu for spec nukes?

[Valgyr]

Any1 know how much aug acu help for spec nukes? Bit unsure how much it helps me, any1 with a link to some tests or so would be <3

 

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should still be correct i think

 

[Maeloch]

Ugh long time since bothered with this stuff. Should be easy enuff to test nuking your bot with and without acuity buff how much X amount of acuity increases damage (as long as you're not capping).

iirc you do about 20% more damage with acuity buff than without so that's already a rough guide, but it's very easy and quick to see absolutely. I don't think there's any mystery unlike some other things (386 dex and cast speed cap anyone?).

It's not an efficent way to raise dps anyhow, as you can see from the above.

 

[CorNokZ]

I've always been a big fan of WP and MoM, but never really bothered going past aug acu 3, besides when pve'ing or really high rr

I can think of better ways to spend my skill pts

 

[Valgyr]

Ugh long time since bothered with this stuff. Should be easy enuff to test nuking your bot with and without acuity buff how much X amount of acuity increases damage (as long as you're not capping).

iirc you do about 20% more damage with acuity buff than without so that's already a rough guide, but it's very easy and quick to see absolutely. I don't think there's any mystery unlike some other things (386 dex and cast speed cap anyone?).

It's not an efficent way to raise dps anyhow, as you can see from the above.

Well the hardcore debuff nukers on german servers are all fans of running high WP and high acu thats why i asked for spec nukes, cause when i played mine i seemed to gain very little. and 90% of my nukes are on cap or almost on cap as i nuke on 50% debuff with spec nuke.

 

[Cadelin]

Well the hardcore debuff nukers on german servers are all fans of running high WP and high acu thats why i asked for spec nukes, cause when i played mine i seemed to gain very little. and 90% of my nukes are on cap or almost on cap as i nuke on 50% debuff with spec nuke.

Aug acuity doesn't increase your damage cap. Its easy to calculate your capped damage and if you are reaching that 90% of the time then its not helping you.

You should ask the Germans why they are doing it. If they are going high WP and Aug Acuity maybe the aug acuity helps with crits? (means you hit cap more often?) It could also be because acuity debuffs/shearing is fotm currently and getting aug acuity helps combat this. The yellow acuity buff is quite a bit lower than red acuity buff.

Finally they could of course just be wrong, (or something could have got lost in the translation). It wouldn't be the first time people have based their spec on flawed tests!

 

[pjuppe]

Any1 know how much aug acu help for spec nukes? Bit unsure how much it helps me, any1 with a link to some tests or so would be <3

as much as possible, cause when you get the acu buff ripped off, don't expect a new one from me.

 

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as much as possible, cause when you get the acu buff ripped off, don't expect a new one from me.

we don't even expect heals as your the worst healer ever

 

[Cadelin]

we don't even expect heals as your the worst healer ever

But even the best healer ever will have trouble giving out spec buffs unless he runs around trading items with charges on them?

 

[Genedril]

But even the best healer ever will have trouble giving out spec buffs unless he runs around trading items with charges on them?

In the words of Basil Brush:

"Booom Boooom"

 

[old.windforce]

There was some debate when we run guild groups if wild power would be better for RVR since critical damage is much harder to heal then slightly more damage every nuke. In general: AA < MoM = WP

Theoretical discussion imo

 

[Genedril]

There was some debate when we run guild groups if wild power would be better for RVR since critical damage is much harder to heal then slightly more damage every nuke. In general: AA < MoM = WP

Theoretical discussion imo

The way I used to run it was keep them all fairly level but always have WP & then MoM advance before AA. Seemed the most logical progression without respecing every realm level. Can't argue about wanting spike damage as it can turn a fight if you're lucky (or unlucky).

 

[Maeloch]

Well the hardcore debuff nukers on german servers are all fans of running high WP and high acu thats why i asked for spec nukes, cause when i played mine i seemed to gain very little. and 90% of my nukes are on cap or almost on cap as i nuke on 50% debuff with spec nuke.

Seems daft to me, you get a little more power pool too, but nowadays with Power Myths etc, would think it's a non-issue.

Also the argument about buffstrips is flawed, because you would still get more bangs for your buck with the points in WP or MoM, whether you're buffed or unbuffed.

 

[Drungan]

my memory may treat me wrong, but the dmg % increase by augacu levels varies with your base/buffed acu.
i.e. the higher you base+item+acu is, the lower the dmg % turnout for AA is.

the turnout of high acu is only to bring your dmg vs players closer to your nominal dmg cap, while mom and wp kinda overcap nominal dmg cap.

general formula for dmg increase was and should still be:

1st MoM
2nd WP
3rd AA

to invest RA points in, and that held true even when not acubuffed with only 75item acu.

other effects of high acu like more power or better conc pool of buffers is another point (iirc mana pool increase of AA is not much compared to pp%)

 

[pjuppe]

we don't even expect heals as your the worst healer ever

mean!

 

[Valgyr]

mean!

Less FH more mail kk!

 

[pjuppe]

Less FH more mail kk!

i can't read my work mail when i'm sick at home, kk?

 

[Sneakers<>Matriarch]

Ugh long time since bothered with this stuff. Should be easy enuff to test nuking your bot with and without acuity buff how much X amount of acuity increases damage (as long as you're not capping).

iirc you do about 20% more damage with acuity buff than without so that's already a rough guide, but it's very easy and quick to see absolutely. I don't think there's any mystery unlike some other things (386 dex and cast speed cap anyone?).

It's not an efficent way to raise dps anyhow, as you can see from the above.

386 dex isnt a cap but it gives deminishing returns just the same way 400+ str isn't really worth it when it comes to hit closer to your cap dmg.

diffrence between 386 dex and 420 dex on a 3.0 cast spell is noticeable.

 

[Sneakers<>Matriarch]

Aug acuity doesn't increase your damage cap. Its easy to calculate your capped damage and if you are reaching that 90% of the time then its not helping you.

You should ask the Germans why they are doing it. If they are going high WP and Aug Acuity maybe the aug acuity helps with crits? (means you hit cap more often?) It could also be because acuity debuffs/shearing is fotm currently and getting aug acuity helps combat this. The yellow acuity buff is quite a bit lower than red acuity buff.

Finally they could of course just be wrong, (or something could have got lost in the translation). It wouldn't be the first time people have based their spec on flawed tests!

They do it because they think it raises their cap dmg, when they fail to see that its the rrs and spec who raise your cap damage ..

AugA, str, dex ( on thrust specs ) only makes it easier to hit your cap dmg, or makes you hit closer to cap dmg.

On nukers who have no debuff it is worthwhile to spec aug acuity imo, not always your debuff nuker will be free to debuff and the diffrence between a 49% crit and cap dmg vs no crit and no cap dmg is huge, and from a dps pov you want as and predictable dps as you can get~

But Carl if your running a RC RM you do not need any acuity at all, should go mom and WP 5 for maximum dmg, but if your running gellow cold debuff and higher in NS line then a balanced spec is the best 3-3-3 4-4-2, 4-4-3 etc.

 

[Maeloch]

386 dex isnt a cap but it gives deminishing returns just the same way 400+ str isn't really worth it when it comes to hit closer to your cap dmg.

diffrence between 386 dex and 420 dex on a 3.0 cast spell is noticeable.

Yeah, I got sick of all the waffle one way or another on this and tested it myself casting spells on autoqueue hundreds of times. That 386 number was based on someone plotting a line thru bad data, but just got spread about like chinese whispers anyhow. Best I could make out - before I got bored of the whole issue - was that somewhere between 400 and 420 the effect of dex plateau'd out so it wasn't really worth it taking it much past 400 (which it probably wasn't from an efficient use of RPs point-of-view anyhow).

 

[Reno]

They do it because they think it raises their cap dmg, when they fail to see that its the rrs and spec who raise your cap damage ..

MoM and + magic damage were the only things that increased cap damage.
RR's and spec only makes you hit closer to it, same as acuity does

Danita

 

[Valgyr]

MoM and + magic damage were the only things that increased cap damage.
RR's and spec only makes you hit closer to it, same as acuity does

Danita

That was my point, with selfdebuffers such as chanter ppl run lower mom higher WP and acu as they crit alot and nuke closer to their cap tho resulting in more dmg as mom raises ur cap and u never nuke for cap with debuffs with a max of 20 spec in the base nuke line

 

[Sneakers<>Matriarch]

MoM and + magic damage were the only things that increased cap damage.
RR's and spec only makes you hit closer to it, same as acuity does

Danita

Yah, think your right here, I didn't explain myself enough last post.

What raises cap damage is the spell delve, indirectly spell lvl, so if you get your spec nuke at 48, you only need rr3 to get cap damage on lvl 50 enemys, lower then 50 vs 50 and beyond will give you variance/lower dmg.

After that enemy resistance and level will lower your damage potential, and acuity the same way as str ( on melee chars ) will counter that, to what exact degree I do not know, but I know str get very high diminishing returns at around 400 str.

Beyond that MoM raises your cap damage, WP raises your dps ( due to crits ) and aug acui will make you hit closer to cap - again to what extent I do not know, and where it pans out is also something I got no idea.

Add in spell pierce into the mix and the returns of acui ( aug acui ) would be even less I think.

All in all I would rather pick WP5, MOM5 and no acui over 4-4-3 on a self debuff class.

 

[Sneakers<>Matriarch]

Yeah, I got sick of all the waffle one way or another on this and tested it myself casting spells on autoqueue hundreds of times. That 386 number was based on someone plotting a line thru bad data, but just got spread about like chinese whispers anyhow. Best I could make out - before I got bored of the whole issue - was that somewhere between 400 and 420 the effect of dex plateau'd out so it wasn't really worth it taking it much past 400 (which it probably wasn't from an efficient use of RPs point-of-view anyhow).

One of the old I50 servers had an accurate casting speed calculation published, and you could see exactly the impact dex had on 2.5 2.8 3.0 spells. So you could see how fast you casted with like 5 digits ( 1.15689 for example, then you add 10 dex and get 1.12578 )

Anything above 386 dex on 2.5 spells did like nothing, but on the 3.0 spells ( aoe mezz ) it was worth to get ~410 dex on saracen sorc, since the cast speed was noticeable increased up to that point.

 

[Maeloch]

One of the old I50 servers had an accurate casting speed calculation published, and you could see exactly the impact dex had on 2.5 2.8 3.0 spells. So you could see how fast you casted with like 5 digits ( 1.15689 for example, then you add 10 dex and get 1.12578 )

Anything above 386 dex on 2.5 spells did like nothing, but on the 3.0 spells ( aoe mezz ) it was worth to get ~410 dex on saracen sorc, since the cast speed was noticeable increased up to that point.

Well that's interesting. I did test different cast speed spells, but it didn't seem to effect much whether they capped out or not. iirc I tested 3 different cast speeds (2.5, 2.8 and 4) and with 3 different aug dexes 0, 3 and 5. There was some variability (due to lag?) and I needed to add some more data points in terms of cast speed and extra dex points but never got around to it - it's more fun playing than chain respeccing, jamming coins in the kb and farting about with excel spreadsheets.

 

[Genedril]

Well that's interesting. I did test different cast speed spells, but it didn't seem to effect much whether they capped out or not. iirc I tested 3 different cast speeds (2.5, 2.8 and 4) and with 3 different aug dexes 0, 3 and 5. There was some variability (due to lag?) and I needed to add some more data points in terms of cast speed and extra dex points but never got around to it - it's more fun playing than chain respeccing, jamming coins in the kb and farting about with excel spreadsheets.

Come play on the US & you can use the test server....

{Never thought I'd try to sell the US to you on a 'testing' basis.}

 

[Dard]

Come play on the US

This ! :england:

 

[Genedril]

This ! :england:

Really should have tag teamed him & Crom at the meet until we'd worn them down. What was I thinking with the drinking, smoking & eating. I was remiss in my duties!!!

 

[Jeros]

Also just a note, i seem to recall shamens dont get as much bonus form acuity for the dmg as cloth casters, just throwing that out there

 

[Maeloch]

Come play on the US & you can use the test server....

{Never thought I'd try to sell the US to you on a 'testing' basis.}

Well not ruled it out, but about to be a bit busy atm as I've taken all the years hols in May/June. I'll have no money after so...

Will arrive with 3 accounts like the yanks in WW2 - too late and with overwhelming firepower.