Asthma

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Damini

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This is going to be a bit of a long and windey story, and so the short version of it is: do any of you lot in here have asthma?

The long version is that when I was about twelve I kept getting bronchitus at a certain time of year, and the doctor diagnosed me as having asthma aggravated by rape seed pollen. However, I didn't want to have asthma, I kept going to the clinic for a year or so but I was embarrassed seeing the asthma nurse when I smoked and I never had an asthma attack so I just hid away my inhalers and ignored it, and pretty much forgot all about it.

When I got to uni I kept getting chest infections, so I went to my doctor and he diagnosed me with (shock, horror) asthma. I said "Oh, strange you should say that, my doctor said I had that when I was twelve" to which he didn't seem too impressed. I've got a brown inhaler and a blue inhaler, but really I don't use them - still never had an asthma attack.

Thing is though when I get ill I really die lung wise (gave up smoking two years ago) and last couple nights (since Kenny gave me his lurgey) I've woken up not being able to breathe hardly at all, and floundering about coughing and flapping. I'm not a very good asthmatic, don't really understand it, and wouldn't know really if I'm having an attack or if my asthma is playing up or if it's just part and parcel of being ill. It's not going to kill me, I don't need an ambulance or anything, its just quite unpleasant gasping for breath like a fish out of water.

So any asthmatics out there, does it get worse when you are ill? Are there ways to make it easier? I'm taking both inhalers at the moment, but they're probably loaded with cobwebs. I don't want to go back to the doctors cos there's nothing you can get given for the flu and also he thinks I'm a bit of a spaz and I feel a bit of an idiot going back and saying "So, you know how you diagnosed me with asthma for a second time in my lifetime, how does it all work?" three years later.

Yes, I am a total tool.

Muchos buchos wheezing gracious.
 
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Louster

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Yeah uh, presumably you know that the becotide (brown) stuff is the stuff you take regularly to prevent asthma, and the ventolin (blue) stuff is the stuff you take if you're having breathing difficulties, right?
Taking the becotide regularly will really help with asthma. Really. I've never had terribly serious problems myself, but my sister was hospitalized a couple of times with it, I think. Lots of stuff could make it worse, but not many things made it better, though we did have this, uh, breathing-pump-chemical-mist-machine thing for when it got really bad. Heavy activity on a cold day would definitely produce bad asthma. Allergies were linked somewhat also. Generally the idea is to just take the ventolin and relax for a while.
 
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evilmonkeh

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ive had asthma for a long time.
seems i have similar probs to you.
had a few asthma attacks when i was young, but thats about it. at the age of 12 in october i got quite ill with some bad chest infection and had to have a ventaliser. i was given more inhalers, but since then i kind of dont bother with taking them until i have a bad spell at which point its too late:)
anyway im only 16 now so i cant really talk much about it improving, but i think i have all but grown out of it (other htan a few bad coughts etc, but i can live with that)
 
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Louster

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Right right, ventaliser, I think that's what that machine we had was.
 
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evilmonkeh

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Originally posted by Louster
Right right, ventaliser, I think that's what that machine we had was.
the ventaliser is horrible :(
it made me sick
its like this funny stuff going down your throat, kind of a gas (well it is :p)
didnt like it one bit
 
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Damini

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The brown inhaler is called Pulmicort. I've started taking it twice a day now, but I think I've left it a bit late :) I just don't really get it, people at school had asthma attacks and they turned bright red and collapsed type of thing, and I don't do that. I get evil chest infections (croup being the most seriously embarrassing for someone in their twenties) and my lungs feel shrink wrapped but unless I'm ill I don't really get affected at all, which is I suppose why I act like an idiot about it and pretend it doesn't exist until I wake up unable to breath.

I think next time I go to the doctors I'll have to ask them to sit me down and spell it out so that even I can't get it wrong.
 
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Louster

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Heh, pulmicort? Weird. Maybe there're more options these days. I've always just had becotide. I never really collapsed at school or anything as the ventolin was almost always enough to stop any asthma problems from getting worse.
 
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Jonaldo

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Am googling for you for some info. Found this on a British swimming!? website.

How is the condition managed?

Modern management of asthma is a shared care process with the patient taking some responsibility for their condition in conjunction with the general practitioner. Nurse-led asthma clinics at most G.P. surgeries help to maintain good control, check inhaler technique and monitor progress.

The peak flow meter which every asthmatic should have is the cornerstone of management. This measures the performance of the lungs and if charted gives a clear idea of how well controlled the asthma is. The peak flow reading varies with the age, sex and height of the patient and can be calculated from charts. Each asthma sufferer should know what their optimum reading is and have a self-management plan.

Types of treatment

There are two types of medication to treat asthma Ð relievers and preventers. Both are inhalers and they are colour coded to help identification. There has been a move to CFC inhalers over the last two years.

1. Relievers Ð inhalers colour coded blue - e.g. salbutamol (ventolin) - work to open up the airways. They are also known as bronchodilators (or beta 2 agonists).

These are mostly used after symptoms appear but sometimes give brief protection against triggers such as exercise before they appear.

It is important NOT to exceed the maximum dose of 2 puffs four times daily.

2. Preventers Ð if taken regularly can prevent an asthma attack occurring. They protect the lining of the airways and make them less likely to narrow when triggered.

There are two main types: -

Steroid based inhalers Ð colour coded brown Ð e.g. beclomethasone (becotide)

Sodium cromoglycate Ð colour coded white Ð e.g. Intal

They should NOT be used for treating an acute attack, as they do not bring immediate relief. They can take about 14 days to be fully effective if taken regularly.

Other long acting inhalers and oral tablets form a second line treatment if the above do not adequately control the condition.

The Step Care approach to treatment

The current treatment of asthma follows guidelines laid down by the British Thoracic Association. They take the form of a step care plan now known as the British Guidelines for the Management of Asthma. This involves stepping up the level of treatment until satisfactory control is achieved. It is important not to overtreat and stepping down is just as important if the asthma is well controlled.

Step 1.

Use an inhaled short acting bronchodilator (such as salbutamol) for symptom relief up to once or twice daily. If you need more than this, move to step2.

Step 2.

Use an inhaled short acting bronchodilator for symptom relief plus a regular low dose inhaled steroid twice daily (e.g. beclomethasone, or in some cases the regular preventer cromoglycate).

Step 3.

Use an inhaled short acting bronchodilator for symptom relief plus either a regular high dose inhaled steroid via a large volume spacer, or low dose steroids and a long acting bronchodilator.

For patients who present more of a management problem, two higher steps are available. It is also worthwhile for all asthma sufferers to have a flu vaccine.

dunno what info this link has but there's some Asthma stuff at the bottom
http://www.essortment.com/in/Health.Advice/
 
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Big G

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I don't find that being ill exacerbates my asthma, although my hayfever makes it pretty bad; almost as if someone is sitting on my chest all the time?

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Damini

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Cheers Jonaldo. I've been doing some looking too, and it seems I'm going to have to grow up and stop pretending I've got happy lungs and start taking my inhaler every day even when I'm not wheezy.
 
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Damini

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Heh Tom, actually that used to be my test of recovery, when cigarettes actually started tasting nice again I was on the road back to health. When you're ill, fags taste awful. Still smoked them though. I just assumed though that since giving up smoking my lungs would glow with health, when in all honesty they were a bit knackered before I even started smoking.
 
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kameleon

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I've was diagnosed asthsmatic 4 years ago. I take a purple inhaler called seretide twice a day, and a blue one, airomir, whenever I get tight and wheezy.

Although I smoke, smoking is not my "trigger", my asthsma has been caused by years of working in the chemical industry. My chest gets tight when I come into contact with petrochemicals such as paint and car exhaust fumes.

Living with asthsma these days is easy. As long as I take my blue inhaler with me when I go out, I can still play football or take part in any strenuous exercise without too much difficulty.



edited for spelling
 
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doh_boy

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Well I'm never sure if I've ever had asthma BUT I do remember stopping breathing infront of my mother (ambulance and everything). One thing I do know (to re-iterate everything you've been told) I had a friend who had worse asthma than you (trust me it was shocking) but after years of taking (the preventitive one) he plays football for the local football team. So basically do what your doctor says. It does you goood in the end. (I really should take my own advice my liver is fucked and I'm going to london to get right royally fucked (drunk))
 
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Ash!

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I got diagnosed with Asthma when I was twleve. Was supposed to be hereditry(sp) because my Mum has it. All I have is the Blue inhaler. I cant recollect having a bad attack during the time I have known I have had it.

However if I am getting stressed out about something then it does appear to be worse. In summer when the pollen count is high it can be a right beeatch to breath as well. Thats basically when I have to use the Blue inhaler. It seems like an eternity to get rid of chest infections etc. Thats the down side I suppose

On the plus side I can still play (In the very loosest sense of the word) Football. I goto Kung Fu. I just keep saying that I am managing it rather than letting it manage me
 
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Testin da Cable

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I had a blue inhaler. I also smoked. Lots. After I quit smoking and got a tiny bit fitter the blue inhaler went away. No asthma, but I had lots of trouble with my bronchial thingys as a child. Not fun, and the reason (I guess) that I get colds at the drop of a hat.
 
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~Lazarus~

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I suffered what was diagnosed as severe bronchitis up to the age of 13 (in modern day it would be diagnosed as asthma an I would get inhalers to help). As it was, whenever I got an attack I was mopre or less left to struggle for breath all the time.

After the age of 13 I was right as rain.

Right up to the age of 34. We had some development work in our house and the plasterer was working in the bathroom mixing powder.

This triggered off the asthma and I am now on the purple (seretide) and blue (salbutomol) inhalers.

Lost the purple one so I dont take it. Only use the blue when necessary (which isnt that often)

and yes I smoke - doesnt seem to adversely affect the asthma. But I started smoking first goddammit!!!
 
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Tom

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I've never had asthma. I do find it interesting that a lot of people here do. Perhaps there is some correlation between this illness and the lifestyles of people who use the internet.

The internet is therefore evil.
 
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throdgrain

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I got asthma , when I was 28. Out of nowhere, one day i couldnt walk downstairs on a sunday morning without running out of breath.
I gave up smoking, it went away, Ive never had it since. I smoked before i got it too Laz, worth bearing in mind.
Smoking (cigarettes) is quite a silly thing to do imo m8 :)
Bear in mind also that i gave up smoking 20 a day, but didnt give up smoking a couple of doobies a day until about 10 years later.
 
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Munkey-

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On the note of chest infections, mildly related, I get them if i drink cold water (and seeing as i hate warm and/or tepid water you can guess how many of them i get)

related?
 
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Insane

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Originally posted by Testin da Cable
I had a blue inhaler. I also smoked. Lots. After I quit smoking and got a tiny bit fitter the blue inhaler went away. No asthma, but I had lots of trouble with my bronchial thingys as a child. Not fun, and the reason (I guess) that I get colds at the drop of a hat.

*knocks hat stand over*

uuhm, TdC you ok? :uhoh:

someone want to call an ambulance?

im lucky, never had asthma but i know friends with it, they dont suffer because they always used the brown one.
 
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doh_boy

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Originally posted by Tom
I've never had asthma. I do find it interesting that a lot of people here do. Perhaps there is some correlation between this illness and the lifestyles of people who use the internet.

The internet is therefore evil.

It has been linked to more sterile living conditions. Since children (or anyone) aren't exposed to dust etc in the air they don't develop an immunity to it thus the large increase in asthma sufferers in the world.
 
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Damini

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Well, been to the doctors and I've been prescribed some steroid tablets to help me out while I'm still a bit germy, and apparently side effects of these are increased appetite, facial puffyness and euphoria. Euphoria could be an interesting side effect...
 
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Jonaldo

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Watch out with those steroids, if you get called into any random drug tests just remember to turn up earlier than 36 hours late.
 

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