Assassin help

[VidX]

Quick question for all my fellow Thid assassins:

What do you find more important: High stealth (over Detect Hidden) or high Envenom?

Vid's current spec is 21 CS for PA, 27 Envenom (24+3 items) but only 18 stealth (17+1, need more +stealth items).

So as to not gimp myself in other areas (in melee I mean) I autotrained stealth to 6, then added all point for level 23 and 24 plus remainder from 22 to get 17 stealth.

Due to my RA's (Aug Dex 1, Aug Qui 1, oh and MoW ) I find I have no problem tanking solo tanks after a PA, DoT, debuff and Evade.

So the only problem I have is with other assassins. Was just wondering have I gimped myself by not bringing stealth any higher?

Yours Faithfully,

Vid 'PA, DoT, Snare, Sprint' X

 

[[PS]Riddler]

17 Stealth should be ample if u get the +5, i know lots of our little kobbies who have 17 stealth and slaughter many albs/hibs, My new Kobbie Critblade is gonna be specced 21 CS, 12 Swords (13 Cause of auto-train stealth), 16 Envenom (20 with items), 19 Stealth (23 with items). And im hoping that keels quite a few tincans

 

[Pixie.Pebr]

Originally posted by vidx
<snip>oh and MoW</snip>

Thidranki is probably the only place in this game where that RA is useful
Take Usp for a shopping spree in DF and twink your little NS silly with +stealth items like Kedela said, should be ok then.

 

[VidX]

Re: Re: Assassin help

Originally posted by Pixie.Pebr


Thidranki is probably the only place in this game where that RA is useful
Take Usp for a shopping spree in DF and twink your little NS silly with +stealth items like Kedela said, should be ok then.

But, but, but..

Then I'll have to remove some of the lvl 50 items! <sniff>

Might go do this later on tonight

 

[Roalith]

Cap for stat bonii is +5 in thidranki, fyi

I'm rolling an infil virtually as I speak (Yes, I've finally thrown in the towel, and no, I'm not using Daox ), template spec is 21 CS, 15 env, 20+5 stealth, 15 slash, 4 DW D). Comments anyone?

 

[old.chesnor]

Originally posted by Roalith
Cap for stat bonii is +5 in thidranki, fyi

I'm rolling an infil virtually as I speak (Yes, I've finally thrown in the towel, and no, I'm not using Daox ), template spec is 21 CS, 15 env, 20+5 stealth, 15 slash, 4 DW D). Comments anyone?

That template looks okay Roalith. I am levelling a slash spec infil with no CS (yes, you heard!) right now, just for the hell of it. Spec at 24 will be 24 Slash, 17 stealth, 17 Env and 15 DW. One of the problems I have is there are no assassiny type attacks in the slash line. Just stuff we can't use like chains off blocks etc. There are half decent chains in DW, but with your 4 spec, you won't get them.

The only real benefit slash has over thrust is the availibilty of slower weapons (for CS styles) and the fact that slash just hits harder than thrust anyway (and gets a bonus against leather)

My CS'less infi is going to (try) to hunt SBs. Might not work, and I don't really want people telling me how lame I'll be in Thid (unless its from personal experience )

Oh and btw Roalith, he is using crafted fine alloy jambiyas and sabres crafted by your fair hand !!!!

 

[Sade]

Just got my cleric to 24, soloed 4 SB'so date, so bloody many of them in thidranki at the moment.
Nice to see there faces when i insta-mezz, walk away, heal poison, heal up to 100%, then smite the fekkers to death.

Am waking up restin after a long rest, also wondering about stats.

Either going :

21 CS
19 Stealth
18 Envenom (for the snare jobber)
15 Thrust

Or

21 CS
20 Stealth
17 Envenom
15 Thrust

Wondering if the extra stealth really means that much, compared to the extra snare/reduction on speed?

 

[madferrit]

Originally posted by Sade


Wondering if the extra stealth really means that much, compared to the extra snare/reduction on speed?

You can get some nice + items for stealth to get it to 24 (either +4 which is easy to do or at a stretch +5) do this and your cooking as the apex hunter

 

[old.Iunliten]

Originally posted by old.chesnor


That template looks okay Roalith. I am levelling a slash spec infil with no CS (yes, you heard!) right now, just for the hell of it. Spec at 24 will be 24 Slash, 17 stealth, 17 Env and 15 DW. One of the problems I have is there are no assassiny type attacks in the slash line. Just stuff we can't use like chains off blocks etc. There are half decent chains in DW, but with your 4 spec, you won't get them.

The only real benefit slash has over thrust is the availibilty of slower weapons (for CS styles) and the fact that slash just hits harder than thrust anyway (and gets a bonus against leather)

My CS'less infi is going to (try) to hunt SBs. Might not work, and I don't really want people telling me how lame I'll be in Thid (unless its from personal experience )

I was 6 stealth 5 CS(almost non crit, didn't use the crit styles) 21 thrust 21 dualwield and 22 envenom or the like. Worked so and so, can't really recommend it over the crit inf but if I got of f an evade I could take down skalds.
Shadowblades only tried to avoid me from getting PA but then I continued to outmelee unless they were 2
Think your template will work better for BG since the lack of non assassin targets. The dual wield chains are kinda sucky though and penumbra is not that amazing so 15 for the styles are good.
Watch out though you can get accused of not playing your inf as intended and wrong when telling you are not specced in crit.


And Usp, You manage to gimp your twinking? no stealth items?
Btw you using staff to PA or?

 

[Arlone]

stealth at 24 is almost a must .. atleast if you ever want to stand a chance of getting an SB and/or inf (with 24 stealth). I had 24+ in stealth on my inf and some SB's could be seen from almost clipping range. I'm guessing their stealth was very low but I doubt they would bother going to Thid with less than 14-16? Don't know tho.

I loved my template. PA, max stealth and best lethal poison for my level (20+3 envenom).

If I didn't one-shot casters they died from one tick of poison. I used slash and yet I could bring down chainwearers with PA + poison only. You will probably notice that there is no time for any garrotes or so after a PA so you'll be hitting PA + sprint and then leave the enemy to die from poison.

God I miss the Thid-times

*gets back into DAoC to level his scout to 24*

 

[old.Flamin]

21la 21axe 8env 16stealth. <- My temp for my SZ

 

[kanteletar]

My sb Drasil will rp out this sunday. I have kind
of 5-spec that works great 1-1.

I have 17+4 axe, 21+4 la, 10 envenom, 10+3 crit and 17+5 stealth.

Thanks for Caliban a nice pally for a duel it was wed night
i believe. did not backstabb, but did not ONCE get my 3-hit
la chain in either, lost due to heal chant mainly. Great fun.

My best fight with this char was on saturday. I did bs II on
wounded scout and he died. He hand infil friend beside him,
who proceeded to attack me and i downed him with 4 hits.
Just when i was going to run away a pally (Kaizer?) came
running so i fought him too.

Had some VERY lucky evades and downed him too, even
though i had no poisons and end bar emptied mid-fight.
I was left with about 2 hp at that point...

Just for the original poster that 10 points for bs II might be
good for melee infil too...