Arti's and your old sc suit

[SS]Gamblor

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Ok finaly got GoV activated for my Friar at the weekend.

I was very worried that it would really mess up my stats,

However when i stuck it on, i lost 2 points in quick and about 97 hp's....

anyone else get a arti that just seems to fit well into the old sc suit ?
 

Belomar

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Eh, go get an SC calculator and make a new suit. It's not particularly expensive, and you'll end up with a crap template if you just stick things on and accept stat losses (97 lost hitpoints is a lot, you know).
 

old.Whoodoo

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Belomar said:
Eh, go get an SC calculator and make a new suit. It's not particularly expensive, and you'll end up with a crap template if you just stick things on and accept stat losses (97 lost hitpoints is a lot, you know).
Depends on how much of the old kit u can use, can still cost in excess of 15p just for the SCing and alchemy on a full set of MP, so it also depends what you call cheap.
 

[SS]Gamblor

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Cost isnt' a issue, my post is about how a lvl 0 arti just seems to slide into a old sc suit with very little disruption. I have a new suit in the works for my temp, so that snot a issue, just for lvl'ing it i thought i was gona have some really crap Stats. but i don't =) dex is still well capped on it =)
 

Chronictank

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all my old suites have been condemed to pve :(
painful since i had 4 tg pieces in it :/
 

Fana

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[SS]Gamblor said:
However when i stuck it on, i lost 2 points in quick and about 97 hp's....

Just out of curiosity, how could changing one piece of armour give a 97hp change o_O Afaik there are no armourpieces with that much hp on them.
 

Belomar

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In addition, a level 0 GoV has +40 hits and +18 strength; you are telling me that you somehow lost 97 hp nonetheless, and that your existing hauberk only had a few points of quickness some 140ish hitpoints? ;) <tickles Gamblor>
 

Awarkle

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loosing con maybe ? or if you had hp on the old peice of armour.

Btw dunno where you get these 15plat price tags unless its scale/chain/plate the ni would say yes 15 plat but spellcraftingdoesnt cost that much neigher does alchemy i think you should shop around more youve been had ;)
 

[SS]Gamblor

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When i get home i'll post the stats for my old chest piece...
 

eggy

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Fana said:
Just out of curiosity, how could changing one piece of armour give a 97hp change o_O Afaik there are no armourpieces with that much hp on them.

con..
 

eggy

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No offence but this is perhaps one of the most obviously stupid threads I have ever read.

You are saying your GoV didn't change your SI SC suit stats much...

...whoopdeedooo. Just means by random chance GoV stats are similar to your original suit...

...maybe we're roleplaying here, or there's something I'm missing :(
 

Chilly

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eggy said:
No offence but this is perhaps one of the most obviously stupid threads I have ever read.

You are saying your GoV didn't change your SI SC suit stats much...

...whoopdeedooo. Just means by random chance GoV stats are similar to your original suit...

...maybe we're roleplaying here, or there's something I'm missing :(
or maybe your just being a tosser and trolling when all hes trying to do is have a nice conversation about fun coincidences.
 

[SS]Gamblor

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Chilly said:
all hes rying to do is have a nice conversation about fun coincidences.

that is the point of the thread , nothing more ....,

I was asking if this has ever happened anyone else, that is all.

and going around saying that peoples threads are stupid when you fail to see the point of it is just counter productive...

Dont drink so much coffee d00d
 

Void959

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The cost of scing and alching a new template isn't nearly as much at much as many people think. The actual cost for ingredients to SC and exchanting a full MP lvl51 suit is always under a plat unless you insist on a 5 point overcharge, forcing the SCer to remake for high-qual gems. I'm not so sure about alch, but the ingredients for six top level reactive procs come to around 1.5P. Making the entire thing a max of 2.5P

The reason most people pay far more is because most crafters charge huge markups, not that I'm against this, as they have to put in an enormous amount of time get there. But many will do it cheaply for guildies, and there are some who will even do it for no markup at all to anybody, just remember to /friends them, cos they're damn rare :(
 

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me i like to get lvl 51 mp stuff just to go for the 1 point over charge ;) its fun to waste materials hehe :D
 

Void959

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I meant exactly 5 points as opposed to 4 points. What's the difference over the entire suit??

18 into ONE stat
OR 6% in ONE resist
OR maybe you'd prefer +2.4 to ONE skill
etc.

I dunno about you, but when buffed those stats are pretty meaningless to me, and certainly not worth paying 3-5 times the SC cost.


And lev you don't get MP stuff for the extra overcharge, you get for the extra points outright.
 

Thegreatest

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Chilly said:
or maybe your just being a tosser and trolling when all hes trying to do is have a nice conversation about fun coincidences.

Only topics allowed on this forum are topics where people are talking about how albs zerg and how overpowered mids are and where they troll and flame each other you know, this kind of neutral chit-chat topics aren't allowed here...

/sarcasm mode off.
 

eggy

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So we were roleplay, that's all you needed to say :D

Jeez think I hit a nerve.
 

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Fana said:
Just out of curiosity, how could changing one piece of armour give a 97hp change o_O Afaik there are no armourpieces with that much hp on them.

actully there's a event robe with -120 hits! (so thats a change of 120 hits, in the wrong direction >_<)
 

[SS]Gamblor

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eggy said:
So we were roleplay, that's all you needed to say :D

Jeez think I hit a nerve.

nice to see you know how to say "Sorry" or "Sorry if i misunderstood". :rolleyes:
 

[SS]Gamblor

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Was habving a look at my suit last night inbeteen ld's :(.

Anyway the only thing that effects hits that was on it was 10 con, but didnt' think that would get 7- hp let alone 97
 

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