Armsman sc Input required

[Morian]

worked out a sc for hybrid thrust pole armsman

0quick aint that good but for the rest it seems ok

if anyone could help me to make it better rlly appreciated
(traitors dagger is just for shademode and khaos just to slam both not equiped on sc)
here goes :
Config Report

Stats

Str: 88 Int: 0 Hits: 288
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 75 Cha: 0
Qui: 0 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 26 Energy: 23 Crush: 36
Cold: 26 Matter: 25 Thrust: 28
Heat: 21 Spirit: 28 Slash: 25

Skills

4 Two Handed

4 Parry

4 Crush

4 Slash

11 Thrust

10 Polearm

Focus

Cap Increases

80 Hits

13 Str

Other Bonuses

15 Fatigue

4 Melee Damage Bonus

10 AF Bonus

7 Melee Speed Bonus

4 Style Damage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Ereine's Haurberk
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 3: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 33.5 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 25 Dexterity - 99 flawless Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Heat Resist - 99 polished Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 1 Strength - 99 raw Fiery Essence
Utility: 53.33

Head
Name: Winged Helm
Level: 51 Quality: 99
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 15 Strength
Effect 5: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 6: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 7: 5 Fatigue
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 33.0 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 52 Hits - 99 faceted Blood Essence
Gem 2: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Constitution - 99 rough Earthen Essence
Utility: 53.67

Hands
Imbue Points: 33.5 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 5 Cold Resist - 99 flawed Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 60 Hits - 99 precious Blood Essence
Gem 4: 3 Thrust - 99 rough Dusty War Sigil
Utility: 56.67

Feet
Imbue Points: 33.5 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 4 Thrust - 99 flawed Dusty War Sigil
Gem 2: 4 Hits - 99 raw Blood Essence
Gem 3: 1 Slash Resist - 99 raw Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 6 Polearm - 99 polished Earthen War Sigil
Utility: 53.00

Right Hand
Name: Traitor's dagger
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 2: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 3: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 0.00

Left Hand
Name: Shield of Khaos
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 3 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 4: 3 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: 8 AF Bonus
Effect 6: 3 Shield
Effect 7: 32 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 37.00

Two Handed
Name: Spear of kings
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 4 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 4 Body Resist
Effect 5: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: 4 Spirit Resist
Effect 7: 5 Fatigue
Effect 8: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 9: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 48.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Hardened Cetus Skin
Level: 51 Quality: 97
Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 8 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 16 Constitution
Effect 5: 2 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 108.67

Jewel
Name: Harpy Feather Charm
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 44 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 59.00

Belt
Name: Belt of the Sun
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 3: 10 Strength
Effect 4: 10 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Energy Resist
Effect 6: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 7: 5 Fatigue
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 43.33

Right Ring
Name: Ring of the Seven Storms
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 13 Dexterity
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 4 Parry
Effect 4: 15 Constitution
Effect 5: 9 Crush Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 66.67

Left Ring
Name: Cenalon's Ring of Might
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 12 Dexterity
Effect 2: 4 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 25 Strength
Effect 4: 12 Constitution
Effect 5: 4 Spirit Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 48.67

Right Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Naxos Abalone Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 2 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 2: 22 Strength
Effect 3: 48 Hits
Effect 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 76.67

 

[eggy]

Hmmm it's not really that much better than an SI template.

You need MP armour to compete these days tbh

 

[Tualatin]

But you have about same stats as SI armour, + higher caps, and the extra effetcs of the artifacts. looks nice =)

 

[Raven]

note on traiters, you have to have it equiped for 15 minutes to use shade mode, un-equip it and the timer resets

 

[Morian]

note on traiters, you have to have it equiped for 15 minutes to use shade mode, un-equip it and the timer resets

that wont be a prob, i wear traitors on my side mostly i slam and use polestyles then anyway

 

[Kagato]

Personally i'd want maxed pole for weaponskill seeing as you havent got a great deal of over-capped strength there, and maxed parry seeing as you'll be presumably fighting with the pole most of the time.

You should consider either getting MP armour to imbue or looking for MP ToA armour drops on the market explorer with better utility.

 

[gunner440]

cap quick goddamn

and try get some mp plate... remember with pole you only get 1 weapon slot

 

[Bracken]

Get mp plate and get those resists up Depending on your rr you could lose some thrust, and as hybrid dont worry about parry. Oh and try get quickness on there - you'll notice the difference, especially as hybrid.



Btw where did you get the cloak (Hardened Cetus Skin) ?

 

[Bometal]

Btw where did you get the cloak (Hardened Cetus Skin) ?

Drop from cetus,

ML1 boss

Ubercloack tbh

 

[Belomar]

Hmm, gunz is commenting in an Armsman thread and is not telling the thread starter to reroll merc? How singular.

 

[Frostor]

gunz is telling me 24/7 in /gu how armsman suck :'(

 

[Calamore]

gunz is telling me 24/7 in /gu how armsman suck :'(

all lies

 

[Frostor]

hybrid tempaltes are so ahrd cause evry single resist u have on ur pole u need it on ur 1h/shield and other way arround
+if u go pure pole u have one slot less
go s/s u lose ur pole/2h util so u better roll a pala :|
i tried a pure pole sc temp but didnt work so well

i want to play my arms again but if i look at tank teams they only invite mercs
so basicly if u dont have a gg/fixed grp with arms u can fo
i feel like a thane in mid or a valewalker in hib

 

[gunner440]

armsmen do suck atm

since daoc release 0 "love" has been shown towards the class

and looking at future ra changes they will suck even more

 

[Bracken]

Offensively they aint a patch on mercs ofc, but you gotta cut your cloth if you play an armsman now. Get the bodyguard ml and a shield and you have the best caster group guardbot, while bodyguard + hybrid spec also gives viability in a mixed group. Atleast until NF anyways...

 

[wittor]

i feel like a thane in mid or a valewalker in hib

froke

 

[gunner440]

Offensively they aint a patch on mercs ofc, but you gotta cut your cloth if you play an armsman now. Get the bodyguard ml and a shield and you have the best caster group guardbot, while bodyguard + hybrid spec also gives viability in a mixed group. Atleast until NF anyways...

yes fair point

but in an alb group setup the problem is..

who are you gonna remove to make way for the armsman? ^^

 

[Bracken]

yes fair point

but in an alb group setup the problem is..

who are you gonna remove to make way for the armsman? ^^

No room for us in tank groups now

In caster group, where its a pure bodyguard bot they want, then ml8+ battlemaster armsman with 42+ shield, det4+ and SoB is imo (*takes a deep breath*) better than a paladin. Why? Primarily because bodyguard can't be switched when your mezzed,but also because of SoB. Ofc in NF those advantages will disappear

Here's another option we've started to run with... 2 x clerics, minstrel, sorc, theurg, ice wizz, merc and bg hybrid arms (merc and arms using end pots). So far has worked well against the kind of groups currently around, though its still early days and when buff shearing comes in I think we may struggle...