are vampiirs any good 1 vs 1?

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What can a vampiir kill 1 vs 1?
What classes are difficult for them? high evade classes? high shield classes?

Vampiirs any good in fg's? whats they mission in 8 vs 8? Would they fit into a opted hib fg?

Whats the coockie cutter spec?
 

Aran Thule

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a lot depends on power, they are good 1v1 but have problems with shield users.
 

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I found that I can basically kill any single class quite easy as a Vamp although this is on Camlann and not alot of people have buffbots.
Charge > every single caster and End drain + Fumble basically destroys most of all tanks, however Mercs do seem to be the biggest problem.
Never really had a problem with shield tanks just end drain them enough because most will try to engage and outlast you but that's kinda hard if you don't have any end anymore ;)

Shame most Vamps I counter on Cluster are claw spamming and thus easy to deal with, so little use the End drain or fumble shame but free RPs is never bad.

Cookie cutter spec is 43 Pierce 32 VE 38 SM which imo is the best solo spec.
Grouped 43 Pierce 48 VE rest SM I think but then you will miss out on quite some things and you will find it hard to solo effectively.
 

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its an extremly overpowered class.

this buffless concept as well is mind bogelingly unfair.

i mean in terms of balance without buffs this class has insane stats, and can quite confortably compete with buffed classes (or excell against them)

on like classic it must just like own everything.
 

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censi said:
this buffless concept as well is mind bogelingly unfair.
Well, just entirely stupid. Can't remember what hot air Mythic were blowing at the time, but seemed to be indicating moving towards making BBs redudant, or at least much less useful. So they make a few token moves with the new classes, and then...nothing.

I dunno mebbe is a large number or peeps who rolled these classes so they could enjoy rvr without a BB, but mostly think it's bullshit.
 

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Problem is not only their Vamp stats buffs but also the fact that they cannot be sheared, I like the fact that they don't need buffbots (gives people that can't spend much money or irl time some options) but that they cannot be sheared is a real big advantage, only class I know which I cannot beat 1v1.
Not to mention 1 PR in mid fight and they are back at full strenght, then again not alot of groups seem to use Vamps most prefer BMs.
 

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Have no problem against vamps, people make them out to be OP but when you take away their power, theyre left with below-par damage in my opinion - like a reaver when you take away Levi, or work out how to avoid it. I think as said, the fact they cannot be buff-sheared is one of the advantages vamps have - but I've only faced vamps from a shield tank perspective. I'd personally prefer a fight against a high RR vamp, rather than a solo high RR hero - you have to dump everything to take a hero down, when it comes to Vamps, you shoudlnt need much - and people are saying vamps are OP, heros are just block block block all day long :p and then hit for 400+ dmg.
 

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Vamp with low power is free rps, but if you let them get power up their impossible to beat, either way you will need invigoration pots to win as a tank.

DR has actually made it more difficult to fight vampiirs now due to everyone having a power bar. Was nice before having nothing but endurance to leech.
 

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get that crap out of your sig! i was drunk at the time, Ill say anything when pissed!

I love you buddy!
 

Aran Thule

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Kagato said:
DR has actually made it more difficult to fight vampiirs now due to everyone having a power bar. Was nice before having nothing but endurance to leech.

Also they can now hold a small shield allowing them more SC options.
 

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really was a stupid idea to give just one realm access to a buffbotless class. anyone who can't afford to pay for 2 accounts, has to play hib, and has to play a vampiir...well done mythic..tbh mid / alb should have a class with this ability, i know theres self buffing classes like heretics etc..but if there gonna give one realm this ability all realms should have it.
 

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Nate said:
really was a stupid idea to give just one realm access to a buffbotless class. anyone who can't afford to pay for 2 accounts, has to play hib, and has to play a vampiir...well done mythic..tbh mid / alb should have a class with this ability, i know theres self buffing classes like heretics etc..but if there gonna give one realm this ability all realms should have it.

Heretic has it own buffs tho the class isnt as OP as vampiir (well haxen then ;) )
*cough*
 

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Nate said:
really was a stupid idea to give just one realm access to a buffbotless class. anyone who can't afford to pay for 2 accounts, has to play hib, and has to play a vampiir...well done mythic..tbh mid / alb should have a class with this ability, i know theres self buffing classes like heretics etc..but if there gonna give one realm this ability all realms should have it.
or play a main buffer class, or just do grp rvr? KEKE
 

Meski

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yea vamps are sooo OP'd. thats why theres like 80 rr10's by now.

less qq and more playing and you'll see how easy it is to beat em ( maybe except few classes ).
 

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