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Shike

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Read some suggestion on VN somewhere about assassins allowed to choose from all 3 rr5RAs.

Actually, I wouldnt whine a single bit if all archetypes rr5abilitys was tossed into a pool and let everyone choose the one they like. Healers, assassins, archers, casters, etc. Those classes that can be specced several ways (like wardens) could be allowed to choose from both healers and hybridtanks etc. (Make it a specific quest for everyone of them aswell for the roleplayers^^).

Would you be in favor of such a system?

(this is the only way to achieve complete balance and it also further decreases the differences between the realms, but I feel its justified to achieve a better balance)

ps: how many would choose Armsmans rr5ability of the heavy tanks? ;)
 

Healer McHeal

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i actually think that would be better, would make it much more easier to make your char how you want for rvr,

thumbs up on that idea :worthy:
 

Lejemorder

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Shike said:
Read some suggestion on VN somewhere about assassins allowed to choose from all 3 rr5RAs.

Actually, I wouldnt whine a single bit if all archetypes rr5abilitys was tossed into a pool and let everyone choose the one they like. Healers, assassins, archers, casters, etc. Those classes that can be specced several ways (like wardens) could be allowed to choose from both healers and hybridtanks etc. (Make it a specific quest for everyone of them aswell for the roleplayers^^).

Would you be in favor of such a system?

(this is the only way to achieve complete balance and it also further decreases the differences between the realms, but I feel its justified to achieve a better balance)

ps: how many would choose Armsmans rr5ability of the heavy tanks? ;)

good idea but then u lose the idea of a class uniqe RA whice i like very much, just bad some of them r overpowered on some sucks balls
 

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Lejemorder said:
good idea but then u lose the idea of a class uniqe RA whice i like very much, just bad some of them r overpowered on some sucks balls

thats the exact thing i meant with:

(this is the only way to achieve complete balance and it also further decreases the differences between the realms, but I feel its justified to achieve a better balance)

I think its ridicilous that Armsmen get a completely useless one while Heroes get a pretty ok one, indifferences like that shouldnt even be suggested when it comes to such an important things as the free RA you get at rr5 when looking at how few RAs you actually can buy even with a high RR with the new system.
 

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Sounds like a good idea, but then you'd get the same problem you have atm. Regardless of how well designed the RA's are 1-2 will be more 'balanced' than others. That means people are more likley to feel their forced to spec in certain RA's to remain viable.

To give a current example, most tanks feel forced to spec det4-5 to remain group viable. I don't really believe the RA changes will make an infinate ammount of difference to the way groups are setup.

To keep with the running example of determination, yes all tanks can now get it - but the new form of Det. Stoicism is only awarded to Tank+Light tank classes. For the less bright among you that means that tank+light tanks will be able to have a higher form of Det without speccing in anything (Stoic = 25% det, Det5 = 14%)


Of course, this is all speculation seeing as Frontiers is still being developed. To be quite honest i'd be very surprised if certain RA's make it into the release version of the addon.
 

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Remember Det is cumulative so Det 5 costs 34 RPs for 34%.
 

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ok idea I guesse.. would my SB get 2,5 spec points too then ????? Would like to be able to spec decent env without hitting like a 2 year old , so I can get a decent use out of the accesse to viper...
 

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It should be like that... but it's typical of Mythic to balance the game, and add some unique(unbalancing) abilities at the same time!
 

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I like it tbh, can't say I'm high in RP, but really looks cool, as it costs like LOADS to become ubah in 1-2 lines, be more easier for lower RR players imo.

Balance, yeah really think this is a huge thing they need to sort out, RA's prob the bigest that sticks out atm.

Some people saying rr5 Arms ability is sucky, hmm imo no, being able to interupt someone from casting upon you while running at them is a hige benifit to a class with no range.
 

Archeon

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Jaem- said:
Some people saying rr5 Arms ability is sucky, hmm imo no, being able to interupt someone from casting upon you while running at them is a hige benifit to a class with no range.

CrossBow? Get what you mean though, I just couldn't help but point out that Armsman's do have some form of ranged dmg even if it is suck-tastically crap-tacular.
 

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Archeon said:
CrossBow? Get what you mean though, I just couldn't help but point out that Armsman's do have some form of ranged dmg even if it is suck-tastically crap-tacular.

hey jimmythepost ownz all with xbow
 

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fl3a said:
hey jimmythepost ownz all with xbow

I'm not sure naked grey con Luri's in the sitting position really counts as 'ownzing' ;)
 

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Jaem- said:
Some people saying rr5 Arms ability is sucky, hmm imo no, being able to interupt someone from casting upon you while running at them is a hige benifit to a class with no range.

yes, it has its uses, but, when you compare it to the counterparts RAs.. it stinks tbh and is not balanced toward them at all imho. Thats the problem as I see it. Sure if all tanks had same RA then it would be a nice ability ofc but that aint the case here.
 

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