Apologies to groups and want advice

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Sleet

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Well recently i decided to use my realm repects as a chance to experiment with the options.

Trip and grapple = complete waste of time (very short duration and very small radius when Vs others resists, PvE not so bad but not useful once when i had it) = im a mes breaker! ;p

Dmg add, was actually not to bad however, although for 3 points for 1st level, RAs can be better spent.

I also experimented with every RA going for heros, but these where the most memorable.

These experiments of course required groups to do so, solo is a different story ( like 1 on 1 will be aided with aoe root? ;p ). I therefore aplogise to groups i have had in which my RAs where pants.

Finnaly i settled on

Aug Dex 2
Mastery of pain 1
AOM 1
Determination 4
FA2
IP

This was for RR4L5

I found purge to be not so helpful at my level, at 30 mins recast, it was never there when i needed it but deter 4 was, maybe this was because i wasnt used to using it however im open to opinions ( 1 respec left :) )

My next plan is to take AOM to lvl 3 for short term aims( thanks garax for the advice).
However has anyone else used respec realm to experiment and found things different from me?

before i was very spread and ive noticed a nice improvement with this setup, with only one respec realm left, anyone reckon they know whats best?


I'd really like input on this one as im pretty much RvR focused these days.

(bare in mind i solo lots in odins, so RAs helpful to soloing is useful)



Thanks in advance,

Sleet
 
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StormriderX

Guest
Originally posted by Sleet
Well recently i decided to use my realm repects as a chance to experiment with the options.

Trip and grapple = complete waste of time (very short duration and very small radius when Vs others resists, PvE not so bad but not useful once when i had it) = im a mes breaker! ;p

Dmg add, was actually not to bad however, although for 3 points for 1st level, RAs can be better spent.

I also experimented with every RA going for heros, but these where the most memorable.

These experiments of course required groups to do so, solo is a different story ( like 1 on 1 will be aided with aoe root? ;p ). I therefore aplogise to groups i have had in which my RAs where pants.

Finnaly i settled on

Aug Dex 2
Mastery of pain 1
AOM 1
Determination 4
FA2
IP

This was for RR4L5

I found purge to be not so helpful at my level, at 30 mins recast, it was never there when i needed it but deter 4 was, maybe this was because i wasnt used to using it however im open to opinions ( 1 respec left :) )

My next plan is to take AOM to lvl 3 for short term aims( thanks garax for the advice).
However has anyone else used respec realm to experiment and found things different from me?

before i was very spread and ive noticed a nice improvement with this setup, with only one respec realm left, anyone reckon they know whats best?


I'd really like input on this one as im pretty much RvR focused these days.

(bare in mind i solo lots in odins, so RAs helpful to soloing is useful)



Thanks in advance,

Sleet

purge is useful imho at 4pts - also get avoid pain teh uber!
 
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Arnor

Guest
FYI: AoM is added AFTER resists(which makes it kinda crap imo)

example for the dimmer bulbs here:
you have 20% heat resist, a fire-wizzy nukes you for 100dmg. your 20% reduces that to 80, THEN your AoM resists are taken from that again. with aom 2 you would get hit for 75.
Its not _that_ big a deal, but every hp counts :)


edit: and if my maths are off, its because I've been up for 30-some hours or sumt :p
 
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Tyka

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Uh arnor wtf you talking about lol, you think mythic actually coded something as complicated as that?

AOM adds to your resists fyi, alot of tests have been done and imo this is 1 of the best and most valueable RAs you can and should get.
 
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VodkaFairy

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It does work well. Ask Elerand, he has it and loves it (afaik).

It is a 30% snare proc when people run away from you I think - perfect in groups / hunting down kiting assassins. I thought it was crap, just 30% chance for 14 (?) points, but it's very very usefull according to the people that have it.

I have still have a real respec, but I only have 3 RSP's to spend I think. If anyone wants me to use those on something to test just let me know ;)
 
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old.Tzeentch

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Originally posted by Sleet
That one work well? not heard much about it

this is uber.

you wanna save your casters/support, get this.

you wanna stop ppl running off, get this.

you want a snare that has no immunity timer, and has an insane chance to work (35%), get this.

you want an overpowered ability, WELL worth the cost, get this. :>
 
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Arnor

Guest
Originally posted by Tyka
Uh arnor wtf you talking about lol, you think mythic actually coded something as complicated as that?

AOM adds to your resists fyi, alot of tests have been done and imo this is 1 of the best and most valueable RAs you can and should get.

well, if you look at the testing the TL's of the wizards and runemasters, you would know that what I said, is what they have found out.
 
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Tyka

Guest
Show me logs and i'll try to find mine.

With BAoD, AoM 3, Items, and racial resists, i get 100% resists and people hit me for 0 (zero) damage, if what you said was true, they would hit for at least 1 :)
 
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elerand

Guest
Culanan has:

Aug dex 2
Aug quick 2
AoM 1
duellists reflexes 1
Mastery of parrying 1
Dodger 2
Mastery of pain 2
Determination 2
Purge
Prevent flight

Prevent flight is by far my most treasured RA!

I'm a gimpy shield BM and I find the snare/slam combo is fantastic for tieing up tanks on your grp.

Had a rare fg aop outing not long ago in odin's where I got to really shine with PF, twice we got caught napping and twice we came back to win, nothing can keep up with a fleeing caster and it's one less tank in the fray, I'll snare then slam then stick the next target and do the same.
There are two of us in aop with pf (miril is the other gimpy shield bm :D ) and it's worth every damn point to get it, I use purge to break anything on me then get to work, hopefully buying time for my team mates to get it together.

Not so much use for solo ofc, as you have to hit someone in the back (they don't have to be running from you, just move forward a bit and have their back to you), we had even ressed 3 members of a fg and got jumped by a fg of mids and I had two snared trying to get back at me and was blocking/parrying/evading like a mad fecker, was sure we were all gonna die but they missed our lvl 40 bard and the other tank helped me finish them off once he was done keeling :)

Get it get it get it!! If more tanks had this RA in a grp it would take the pressure off me too :p
 
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Arnor

Guest
Originally posted by Tyka
Show me logs and i'll try to find mine.

With BAoD, AoM 3, Items, and racial resists, i get 100% resists and people hit me for 0 (zero) damage, if what you said was true, they would hit for at least 1 :)


point, ill scurry along and find em if i cba ;)
 
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Novamir

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i have AP2 and i lub it- my personal anti-zerker device
 
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boni_ofdavoid

Guest
For 4 points purge is a bargain for a pure tank.
 
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Flimgoblin

Guest
prevent flight is what makes being a merc worth it...

it's very nice :) can slow down enemy tanks, can stop enemy casters fleeing (although they sometimes sprint quick enough and get out of range before it procs ;( - its far from certain)

I'd not say it's overpowered though, 14 is quite expensive - for 10 points I'd say anyone would be stupid not to get it. at 14 it's well worth it still.

the 'turns and runs' just means it's a rear positional proc :) they don't have to be facing you beforehand or whatever...
 

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