anyone tried?

Elnova

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just wondering alb set up

mind sorc
body sorc
body sorc
body/spirit cabbie
cleric, rejuv / enhance
cleric rejuv / smite (ok so i am anticipating at least 1 bb)
friar 49 enhance 44 staff friar (cold resist for mid caster nukes, heat resist for hib caster nukes, these resists id always kinda seen as vita o_O) -battlemaster
paladin - batle master

earth wizz maaaybe instead of cabbie, has a nice utility and good hib pet controle?

only prob i can see is no soj, but hibs only use one soj and u dont se them abuse it THAT much, and 3 demezzers ,with quick cast, nice red heat and cold resists, am not too up on alb as have not played their much..... am 50 / 50 weather to delte my sm on other acc and role a sorc on excal .. anyway, any sugestions / comments on grp set up appreciated. tnx :) diddily
 

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there are body debuff grps out from time to time but with a mincer insted of friar/pally normally
 

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could work if it was good players with voicecom i guess.

so dont try it on excal :eek:
 

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Cant remember trying that exact setup, tried various that were very similar that worked well enough :)

Elnova said:
am 50 / 50 weather to delte my sm on other acc and role a sorc on excal
Mind sorc? If you do and have reactions faster than a wet cabbage youll do fairly well. Theres very very few around at the moment sadly.
Body sorc? Dont bother: hundreds already.
 

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could work












but excal albs wont bother since they can just ZERGGGG :p
 

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-Freezingwiz- said:
there are body debuff grps out from time to time but with a mincer insted of friar/pally normally

with that many casters fighting without any heat resist is just uffff <shudders> , pallie i kinda like for end regen so caster can sprint away etc in fight BUT with friar having self end regen (really want to keep friar in grp) , mincer insted

im guessing pure dd's / zepher, and sticking a seer for unstyling interupt wont need end as such, dunno, u still got bg with friar then also, AND a soj
 

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Draylor said:
Cant remember trying that exact setup, tried various that were very similar that worked well enough :)

Mind sorc? If you do and have reactions faster than a wet cabbage youll do fairly well. Theres very very few around at the moment sadly.
Body sorc? Dont bother: hundreds already.

yup would be mind
 

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i rly prefer tank grps with 1 nuker, full caster grps can work but are very hard to pull off vs good grps

If you lose mezz u can aswel sit down & let them kill u. & once a nuker is killed he becomes allmost useless
 

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flex said:
i rly prefer tank grps with 1 nuker, full caster grps can work but are very hard to pull off vs good grps

If you lose mezz u can aswel sit down & let them kill u. & once a nuker is killed he becomes allmost useless

dont write mezz or aussie comes with insta-cc whine :< but that pretty much sumed it up ye, tho in NF alb caster grps will pwn tbh, will wait and see.
 

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the group is okish ... with the disadvantage of demezzers in cloth and no GP ...

good hib/mid groups should kill 1-2 casters if they win mezz..

allso hard to get friar's with ml8 atm ... (remember they used to sux so ppl retired them)
 

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Played that grp before, except we had a theurg and a minstrel.
is a damn fun grp :)
 

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Sometimes play in a group with :
Body Sorc
Body Sorc
Mind Sorc
Wiz/Cabby
Cleric
Cleric
Mincer
Theurg


farmed a mid zerg (21 people) three times lastnight.

Switching the wiz for a cabby is easy - just changes the balance of the assists.

But this group is REALLY dependant on the clerics - wub j00 bramdor and abelota
 

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flex said:
i rly prefer tank grps with 1 nuker, full caster grps can work but are very hard to pull off vs good grps

mind sorc
cleric
cleric
merc
merc
friar
pallie
earth wiz

could be cool imo, for a tank grp

just really think those friar resists would make alb grp tougher, when u can have red heat and cold resists, u got wizz on interupt and stuff, + a bolt and nuke, and a dot, so nice utility, and only 2 clothies to worry about
 

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PE setup seems uber atm imo:

air theurg
air theurg
spirit cabby
mind sorc
cleric
cleric
pally
merc/mincer

get 2 spec nuking classes who have chain stunning pets as well as 3x ghetto ae rooters and 2 ghetto ae mezzers and 1 uber mezzer, sos, 2x bof osv osv osv
 

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wtvr people say, I feel a paladin is central to any group and hate roaming without one. not gonna list all they do, coz u know that stuff.

Another thing, our set-up changes all the time, it isn't necessary to have these set groups, unless u got something specific to achieve, just change the style to suit the set-up.
 

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Fluid said:
PE setup seems uber atm imo:

air theurg
air theurg
spirit cabby
mind sorc
cleric
cleric
pally
merc/mincer

get 2 spec nuking classes who have chain stunning pets as well as 3x ghetto ae rooters and 2 ghetto ae mezzers and 1 uber mezzer, sos, 2x bof osv osv osv
Could go 2 fotm theurg ice/earth spec, 1 body sorc, 1 mind sorc, 2 cleric, pally, merc/mins.

then you get 3x good ae root, 1 ghetto ae root, 1 ghetto ae mezz, 1 uber ae mezz. No nearsight but an extra demezzer and a pretty nice ae dex/qui debuff.

Could also go a bit more defensive, drop one theurg for a BG friar, prolly be more inclined to take the merc instead of the mins then.
 

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FC+some others did run a debuff group like that, we had 2 cabbys though as we found that if the cabby got killed it really fucked up the group. But when you got the jump, or all played well, it worked very well.
Outkhast(sp?) on pryd run a very good body debuff group like this.

We tried the theurg debuff group when strondor was still around, although just cabby, theurg and rest normal old tank group. It worked pretty well and Strond certainly enjoyed nuking debuffed targets for over 700 ish dammage.

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Fluid said:
PE setup seems uber atm imo:

air theurg
air theurg
spirit cabby
mind sorc
cleric
cleric
pally
merc/mincer

get 2 spec nuking classes who have chain stunning pets as well as 3x ghetto ae rooters and 2 ghetto ae mezzers and 1 uber mezzer, sos, 2x bof osv osv osv

only 1 cloth demezzer (in case of the group with merc) are not viable vs good groups .. at some point you will get mezzed and if the demezzer is dead/interruptet the group is fucked
 

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Hotrats said:
Could go 2 fotm theurg ice/earth spec, 1 body sorc, 1 mind sorc, 2 cleric, pally, merc/mins.

then you get 3x good ae root, 1 ghetto ae root, 1 ghetto ae mezz, 1 uber ae mezz. No nearsight but an extra demezzer and a pretty nice ae dex/qui debuff.

that is a group with 8 support.

it is basically our group, but instead of merc/mincer a Fire Wizard to do the killing !
 

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Clipse said:
that is a group with 8 support.

it is basically our group, but instead of merc/mincer a Fire Wizard to do the dieing !
well said m8y :p
jk

but to be fair, lots nice alb grp set ups said here, ps, use friar and a earth wizz somewhere.. for me :(
red heat, red cold resists > det
 

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Filip said:
only 1 cloth demezzer (in case of the group with merc) are not viable vs good groups .. at some point you will get mezzed and if the demezzer is dead/interruptet the group is fucked

then take the mincer, u got sos and an extra demezzer as well as all the nice littul fluff mincers have
 

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Hotrats said:
Could go 2 fotm theurg ice/earth spec, 1 body sorc, 1 mind sorc, 2 cleric, pally, merc/mins.

then you get 3x good ae root, 1 ghetto ae root, 1 ghetto ae mezz, 1 uber ae mezz. No nearsight but an extra demezzer and a pretty nice ae dex/qui debuff.

Could also go a bit more defensive, drop one theurg for a BG friar, prolly be more inclined to take the merc instead of the mins then.

seeing as a lot of it is about quick dmg nowadays, air theurgs being spirit debuffed tied in with mids having low spirit resists as no1 ran air theurgs will mean the spec nuking air theurg is gonna do a hell of a lot more dmg than a none spec nuking ice theurg
 

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Fluid said:
seeing as a lot of it is about quick dmg nowadays, air theurgs being spirit debuffed tied in with mids having low spirit resists as no1 ran air theurgs will mean the spec nuking air theurg is gonna do a hell of a lot more dmg than a none spec nuking ice theurg
Well yes spirit is better vs mids, but sux vs hibs whereas cold sux vs mids but better vs hibs.

Both groups are sound and both would work, it mostly comes down to whether you want a spirit caba or a body sorc rather than what damage type/how much util the theurg has.
 

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such positive things about friars i like it, but 44 staff is way to much since ure only deffending the grp.. :clap:
 

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