Zebolt said:Melee/spell dmg and spell range is restricted to artifacts. Speed however isn't..
That 2% melee dmg is only for PvE though so people usually dont want itNeffneff said:an example for you:
Gem of The Brute
9% cold resist
+21 strength
+4 parry
+60 hits
+2% melee dmg
there are plenty of items out there with the stats people want on them.
Haven't seen a single non-artifact with +melee/spell damage that would work against other players - all of them have some sort of requirement (Gem of the Brute for example: Melee Damage: 2% vs Animal, Humanoid, Undead and no, according to Mythic we are not humanoids ).Fana said:Ony real reason to use artis in a template is because of their unique abilities, stuff like stealthlore, mezzturning etc. Most of the pure stat bonus stuff (statcap, extra spd/dmg whatever) can be capped without artis.
Someone already said ML10 weapons.Saggy said:Haven't seen a single non-artifact with +melee/spell damage that would work against other players - all of them have some sort of requirement (Gem of the Brute for example: Melee Damage: 2% vs Animal, Humanoid, Undead and no, according to Mythic we are not humanoids ).
Read the posts in the order they have been made - there was absolutely nothing mentioned about requirements before my post and like I said, I haven't seen any non-artifact with +melee/spell damage. ML10 weapons have +dmg that work on other players? Good to know.Rulke said:Someone already said ML10 weapons.
Please try and keep up.
Saggy said:Melee Damage: 2% vs Animal, Humanoid, Undead and no, according to Mythic we are not humanoids ).
Zebolt said:Melee/spell dmg and spell range is restricted to artifacts. Speed however isn't..
Sarnat said:ML10 stuff also has range/dmg.
Saggy said:Haven't seen a single non-artifact with +melee/spell damage that would work against other players
Saggy said:Read the posts in the order they have been made - blah blah.
Please try and learn the basics of reading.
Yes, you can count by using your fingers and indeed, 6 comes before 9 so dont worry, you can handle the basics of math. Now, go back and read Sarnat's and my posts - does Sarnat say anything about ML10 stuff having +dmg that works againts other players? No, he says that ML10 stuff has +dmg, that's all, but so does many ROGs - with different requirements.Rulke said:Bear with me here, my reading isn't so good, but isn't 6 before 9?
I'm not blind, I knew what Sarnat had said and would have checked out ML10 items if I had knew what to look for - none of my characters have reached ML1 yet so I know fuck all about MLs and at that point I hadn't seen any non-artifacts with +damage that would work against other players...Saggy said:Haven't seen a single non-artifact with +melee/spell damage that would work against other players - all of them have some sort of requirement (Gem of the Brute for example: Melee Damage: 2% vs Animal, Humanoid, Undead and no, according to Mythic we are not humanoids ).
...and you give reply like that instead of giving an example of ML10 items with +dmg Anyway, it was you, not Sarnat, who said ML10 items have +dmg that works against other players so thanks for that.Rulke said:Someone already said ML10 weapons.
Please try and keep up.
It was that "blah blah" part with the main point by the way so please, once you learn the basics of reading try and learn some forum manners too starting with the part: "How to quote?".Rulke said:Read the posts in the order they have been made - there was absolutely nothing mentioned about requirements before my post and like I said, I haven't seen any non-artifact with +melee/spell damage. ML10 weapons have +dmg that work on other players? Good to know.
Saggy said:Yes, you can count by using your fingers and indeed, 6 comes before 9 so dont worry, you can handle the basics of math. Now, go back and read Sarnat's and my posts - does Sarnat say anything about ML10 stuff having +dmg that works againts other players? No, he says that ML10 stuff has +dmg, that's all, but so does many ROGs - with different requirements.
I'm not blind, I knew what Sarnat had said and would have checked out ML10 items if I had knew what to look for - none of my characters have reached ML1 yet so I know fuck all about MLs and at that point I hadn't seen any non-artifacts with +damage that would work against other players...
...and you give reply like that instead of giving an example of ML10 items with +dmg Anyway, it was you, not Sarnat, who said ML10 items have +dmg that works against other players so thanks for that.
It was that "blah blah" part with the main point by the way so please, once you learn the basics of reading try and learn some forum manners too starting with the part: "How to quote?".
Yes, bitchy reply to a bitchy reply, your point being?Lakashnik said:u write a completly bitchy reply and then tlk about learning forums manners go you.
What exactly did I deny? I said I hadn't seen any non-artis with +dmg that work against other players, mmkay? I didn't say there isn't such items, I said I haven't seen any, mmkay? Rulke corrected me wrong which I'm glad and thanked him about it. Oh, the point wasn't who is right and who is wrong, the point was that Rulke didn't understand what I said.Lakashnik said:also if u dont know about something dont blankly deny it... u cant get any items with out artis that blah blah blha.... oh wait sum1 prooved(sp?) u wrong.
Erm, did you even read what I said? Go youLakashnik said:so plz find out things before u post and dont be such a hypocrit.
Sorry, I have to give same advice to you as I gave to Rulke - learn to read, please? Once you understand what others are saying you can call them hypocrits and stuff when there is a need for it, before that I suggest you to keep your mouth shut unless you want to make fool of yourself. Hint: I said I would had found out things if I had knew what to search for, searhing for random ML10 stuff to find +dmg took quite long mind you.Saggy said:I'm not blind, I knew what Sarnat had said and would have checked out ML10 items if I had knew what to look for - none of my characters have reached ML1 yet so I know fuck all about MLs and at that point I hadn't seen any non-artifacts with +damage that would work against other players...
Ok i didnt know much about melee, but spell dmg is still imposible without artis, and so is ressist pirceSaggy said:
Pfft, #17 is me saying I didn't knew about the ml10 drops but still said the template wasn't possible, noobSaggy said:#17 Rulke posts what's been said in post #6, #10 (sorry, you counted wrong ;D) as an answer to post #12 - and totally misundestooding the point (hint: the posts Rulke should have looked into are #8 (where the requirements kicked in and the idea of +dmg died and made room for +dmg in PvE and +dmg in RvR), #10 and #11 (but instead Rulke even cutted that most important part away from quote which is rude).