Any chance of getting a couple of HPB server please Barry?

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old.AL12342

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Hi Guys,

Good to see ya still around!!!!!!! Esp. after all the huff about closing down! Anyway to my point....

I am a 56ker, and usually play on Jolts HPB servers (when they are not jam packed!), and as I cant get cable or adsl in my area yet, I find playing on these servers the only way of having fun playing CS. Yes, you can beat LPBs as some time its due to skill not ping, however eith pings decreasing because of ADSL, I am losing more and more one on one situations due to my ping!!!
And its so frustrating when you die because of ping!!!
Yes, the HL netcode is kind-cool, and helps a lot, but LPBs do get a advantage!

Anyway, as LPBs can basically go on any server, but HPBs have hardly any dedicated servers for us is there any chance of getting one or two? I am sure myself and all of the other HPBs would appreciate it!!

Anyway, thanks for listening to my comments.

AL12342
 
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old.AL12342

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All different at the mo, still cant decide on one :) .

Anyway.. why do people feel so strongly abour not having one? Some of them comments get really abusive!!!!

Its bloody silly if ya ask me!

Also people going on about LPB servers I mean, why? They can go on any servers and have a good game, as far as I know there are only three UK HPB servers and they are all jolty!!

Anyway I guess its not gonna happen so I'll shut up and get me coat :) .

Just a shame, Barry you should be ashamed of yaselfs!!!! :upyours:

:)
AL12342
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~Lazarus~

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Dont tell anyone, but I agree with you.

Out of ALL the servers available, there are 3 set aside for HPB.

It can also be frustrating actually getting on to those servers as well.

Then you get the lpb's who think they still have the right to play on these servers, and refuse to disconnect.

Hopefully this might change, cos there isnt a chance in hell of me getting cable/isdn/adsl where I live.

Say HI next time you are on Jolt.
 
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Ch3tan

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Because.

No new servers are currently being put afaik.

The current servers are at capacity, full most of the day.

If you make one of them a HPB server, u make it harder for players to get a game at peak times.

HPB server segregate the community and continue to widen the gap between HPB and LPB.

The Jolt hpb servers require 24/7 admining and cause a lot of grief. There is no way, without the aid of admin mod and some add ons to stop lpb's joining this hpb server.

It is too much hassle imo jsut because some players cant learn to play cs.

BLame your skill not your connectio -unless you are on aol of course.
 
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old.AL12342

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Well on the jolt servers when an LPB joins its easy to kick em as all you do is call a vote, and it yes press yes for 1 and no for 2. Pretty easy for everyone to understand includeing newbies I think :)

I have had no major problems.

AL12342
 
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~Lazarus~

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yup that usually works.

Have had occurrences on the past where the lpb continued to reconnect immediately - because he was lpb, he came back oin straight away.

Also on Jolt 18 - there isnt the ADMIN mod (or there wasnt at that time) which can cause its own hassles.

btw - Chetan - I can see the point from both sides . The problem is no-one will ever be able to satisfy all of the people all of the time.

Like I said before, I just go on to have fun - i dont mind if its a lpb or and hpb that kills me.

Get more satisfaction killing lpbs mind.
 
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-AP-

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Although i do play on the jolt hpb servers quite a bit i really don't see the point in having hpb servers. From a community point of view then i agree with what Ch3tan wrote above.

From a player's point of view (hpb) You are limiting yourself to how much you can learn and improve. Being top of the score board in a jolt hpb server does by no means mean you'll be top of the score board in a BW server..... unless your name is Austin_Powers of course. :p There are some very talent players in the hpb servers but if you really want to get anywhere i would play on both hpb & normal servers.

Yes ping does play a big part in the game but i think in the end it all comes down to skill. You always see hpbs moaning about ping kills, i think it's more of an excuse than anything. I have no problem playing with lpb and in many cases beating them. I think more people should start working on their CS skills and not their moaning skills!! (from other thread)

I am not directing any of this at individuals... i just don't see why this lpb/hpb thing should be such an issue. So imo i am fine with how the servers are. :)

Anyway AL12342, i might see you in the jolt hpb servers sometime. I 'll be the one at the top :p Unless Lazarus is having another one of his *cough* 'skillful' *cough* days


[-FSK-]Austin_Powers.... boss will be happy, i used my tag :)
 
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~Lazarus~

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Originally posted by Mr_Powers
Unless Lazarus is having another one of his *cough* 'skillful' *cough* days

[-FSK-]Austin_Powers.... boss will be happy, i used my tag :)
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R U insinuating something ?

At least come out and say it like EVERYONE else last night.

Even my Bro came on - first thing he said was "Nice Score Laz".

:upyours: BASTID

Can someone not have a good night without being ripped up as a cheat ?

/mumble mumble

/EDIT ( forgot to say what I meant to say)

I usually try the hpb servers. Once you have been playing them for a while, you get a "rapport" going with some of them, and attitude with the rest. One of the good things about the hpb servers is that there is very little of the "0wnage" crap going about (apart from Mr_Powers - but we all know he cheats - we just tolerate it cos he whines so much).

Most of the time it can be fun - lots of banter firing about and very few folk taking it seriously (wot i mean by serious is - its not the ned of the world if you get killed)
 
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-AP-

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M8 that's only cause i had to go.... show down tonight!! :D


Anyhow... i never called you a cheat. I know a cheat when i see one, and frankly your scores just aren't good enough hahahaha

hahahahah
muHAHAHAHAHAHA

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

bloody redbull


Addendum - True Lazarus, i like the general friendly attitude of the jolt hpb servers. It's good when all you want is just a relaxing game with m8s. As for all this ownage business - you'll have to remember i was once a lpb so with my crazy mad skills i am used to being at the top.... hahaha done it again j/k

:eek:
 
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old.AL12342

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Powers I do see your point, and did say it is down to skill sometimes, however you cant say at the end of the day its all down to skill cos half the time it aint. If I push a door open and a 30 pinger is waiting for me, I aint gotta chance in hell.

Even if I had a aim bot or something, due to the pings being about a 150 difference he will kill me first AS LONG as he knows how to shoot a gun.


Also, whats wrong with having a HPB server for people who want to play on HPB servers? You have a valid point but there are a lot of people liek me :p

AL12342
 
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Ch3tan

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HPB servers = admin headache, constant kicking of lpb's being lame. Thats how I see it going.

Well when this gsp goes p2p someday then I suppose a hpb only server would be something you should have a right to demand.
 
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Wilier

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Im a vhpb, can we have a server?? No really, I usually join any game goin (bw or jolt) and when Im fed up with being kicked shitless, I go to the hpb servers to stroke my confidence back to just dented, instead of mangled.

Plus they are a good laugh with, usually, the same players on having a good time. Which is what its all about at the end of the day.:clap: :clap: :clap:
 
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Embattle

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HPBs seem to like to use their connections as their excuse for being shit players most the times.

Can we have an LPB only server.

Voting currently doesn't work due to possible clan take overs etc.
 
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MYstIC G

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Originally posted by Embattle
HPBs seem to like to use their connections as their excuse for being shit players most the times.
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Ain't it the truth, I never used to bitch like this when my ping used to be up in the 2-3 hundreds.

Anyway from my pov now its fucking harder to play as a LPB, the number of times I get killed in 1 shot by a guy who looks frozen on my screen is bloody sky high.

Quit ya bitching & ya moaning & just play the game.

(btw I wouldnt think that the use of the :upyours: smiley is gonna make any difference to those who works @ BW)
 
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-AP-

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Originally posted by Embattle
HPBs seem to like to use their connections as their excuse for being shit players most the times.
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I expect you didn't quite phrase that properly.

Playing on a LAN at uni getting sub 20 pings and playing at home getting 200+ pings i know what it is like to be both an hpb & an slpb.

Ok, unfortunately it is true that a good lpb is going to come out on top everytime. And true at the end of the day ( i hate that phrase - sorry) ping does play a big part in how well a player does in a game.

After reading Wilier's post i think i change my stand in the issue - i don't see the point in hpb servers.....

I go to the hpb servers to stroke my confidence back to just dented, instead of mangled.
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I guess its just one of those things we [hpbs] are just going to have to live with. It can be frustrating at times and lpb attitude certainly doesn't help. If BW are to intorduce a p2p service i don't seee why we shouldn't have the chance to p2p on an hpb server.
 
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MYstIC G

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Originally posted by Mr_Powers
If BW are to intorduce a p2p service i don't seee why we shouldn't have the chance to p2p on an hpb server.
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Yeah well its not P2P at the moment, so can we just drop this old & quite frankly boring topic now, its been covered before
 
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old.AL12342

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WHY are all these LPBs so determind on to have a HPB server on Barry?!?!?!?? LPBs can go ANYWHERE they like so they dont need a LPB server.

And the voteing does work, as I use jolts HPBs all the time (whenever I can get on!!), so LPBs dont use that as an excuse please!!!

I just think Barry should respect the HPB players by giving them a server, is that so wrong?

Also I think the LPBs, flameing and going on about `ping is just an excuse blahblahblah`, should just get a life and look at the facts.

Sorry but I have had enough of them going on about an issue which has nothing to do with them!! :(
 
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~Lazarus~

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Mystic G

Sorry to go off topic guys - Mystic G - you should have a word with MrCurver

He stole your Avatar mate - go on, sic 'im

Back on topic.

Me thinks the arguement between lpb and hpb will never die (in todays gaming environment)

Every advantage (almost) has a equal disadvantage,

My own opinion - even if I had cable i'd still play for fun - on a more equal playing field.
 
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Ch3tan

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Originally posted by AL12342
WHY are all these LPBs so determind on to have a HPB server on Barry?!?!?!?? LPBs can go ANYWHERE they like so they dont need a LPB server.

And the voteing does work, as I use jolts HPBs all the time (whenever I can get on!!), so LPBs dont use that as an excuse please!!!

I just think Barry should respect the HPB players by giving them a server, is that so wrong?

Also I think the LPBs, flameing and going on about `ping is just an excuse blahblahblah`, should just get a life and look at the facts.

Sorry but I have had enough of them going on about an issue which has nothing to do with them!! :(
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No dont personally have an issue, but if you get an hpb only server its only fair to get a lpb only server.

Save being moaned at "your only good because of your connection etc".

The fact is, voting is disabled on bw servers. They dont use admin mod, whcih is how u get the press 1 or 2 to vote. VOting is disabled because Cs players cant handle it, do server takeovers, or just vote anyone good off.

Also their are massive ping differences on modems, and I have seenv ery good and very bad players. It makes no difference to playing on a normal server at the end of the day.

Learn to play as a HPB, I did it for ages and was happy..I've only had cable since February. Never used to moan about hpb servers when i played, what is it with cs players now?

And as you point out Jolt have a fully working HPB system, so why cant u just use them if you are that bothered?
 
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~Lazarus~

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Said before Chetan - understand the point.

However, Jolt are the only hpb servers i know of in the uk.

There are 4 servers in total :

Jolt 18 = 16 max
Jolt 20 = 16 max (although this server is fooked at the moment)
Jolt 21 = 14 man
Jolt Cwbk = 12 man (FF 0n)

Currently there is a total of 42 slots (not counting 21) which simply is not enough to support all the hpb players there are.

While I like playing against other hpb (and there are some good hpb players there) im not going to wait for 15 or so minutes to get on - I occassionally visit other mixed servers - although I try and select one with a broad mix of ping speeds (usually Bw - although I dont usually sign on as Lazarus)

If I feel I am getting (sorry to use the phrase) 0wned, then I will move on to another server,

During all this moving about, you get a better perspective of ow good you actually are.

I seen some very good hpbs holding their own against the lpbs.
 
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old.AL12342

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WHY DO LPBS need there own server!!!

They can play on any!!!! Ok so can HPBs, and there are some very good HPBs, but newbies and players who are not all that great (like myself), want to have a chance in getting some skills! Cos if they not a graet HPB player its just fustrating playing on a normal server against other LPBs!!!!!



Also (without this sounding bad) please dont comment on how good/bad jolt HPB servers are on reguards to admin mod, cos the last 3 montsh since I found them I have only had one trouble, and as you dont use them you cant comment :)

Sorry if that sounded out of order, but its true!!!

AL12342
 
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~Lazarus~

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Al,

The point Chetan is trying to make is that mixed servers (lpb AND hpb) can consist mainly of whining :

LPB - hes got bendy bullets. He shot me round the corner. I wasnt where he shot me and i still died

HPB - he saw me 20 ms before I saw him. Hes got an advantage.

and so on.

To give the lpbs their own server means that the lpb players can avoid this (if they want to)

I am not advocating the split of hpb from lpb but some people like that. For BW to accommodate HPB only servers then they must also provide the same service to their LPB players - its only fair.

ALL - weve had this onversation in the past - lets not lose the heads over it.
 
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Ch3tan

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Originally posted by AL12342
WHY DO LPBS need there own server!!!

They can play on any!!!! Ok so can HPBs, and there are some very good HPBs, but newbies and players who are not all that great (like myself), want to have a chance in getting some skills! Cos if they not a graet HPB player its just fustrating playing on a normal server against other LPBs!!!!!



Also (without this sounding bad) please dont comment on how good/bad jolt HPB servers are on reguards to admin mod, cos the last 3 montsh since I found them I have only had one trouble, and as you dont use them you cant comment :)

Sorry if that sounded out of order, but its true!!!

AL12342
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WHY DO HPBS need there own server!!!

They can play on any!!! Ok so can LPBs, and there are some very good HPBs, but hpb's of this generation moan and bicth about everything under the sun. CS is a game of skill and it takes a long time to get good. PLaying on servers with a lower skill elvel jsut so you can get kills will not improve your game. And because some players are good, their skill is blamed by hpb's on their connection, this is annoying and shows great insecurity on the par tof the hpb.

I read the jolt forums, all I ever see is Lpb's were on our server. moan, whinge, bitch. Fix it etc, admin mod has only been introduced recently.

Also read the toher post by sil|away, some very strong points about ping times adn the difference it makes.

Gettign a hpb server is like buying a big car cause you've got a small dick -it doesnt change the fact your dick is minute.
 
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MYstIC G

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Re: Mystic G

Originally posted by Lazarus
Sorry to go off topic guys - Mystic G - you should have a word with MrCurver

He stole your Avatar mate - go on, sic 'im
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Ta m8
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old.SliNkY

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i have been a HPB since i started playing online about 18 months ago..........

all the points raised about the disadvantages are true :(

been there done that.............

a skilled low ping will allways beat a skilled high ping..... it is the laws of physics :(:(:(:(:(

with adsl or cable no where near me i now use ISDN..........

everyone with a BT line can get it.........

it aint cheap but it is all i can get & boy is it sweet after a 56K analouge modem..........


go digital !!!!!
 
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MYstIC G

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Originally posted by SliNkY
all the points raised about the disadvantages are true :(
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I don't agree, I've been both a HPB & LPB but it never made any difference, I was top of the kills list then and I still am now. People just use ping as an excuse for everything.
 
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old.AL12342

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Originally posted by Ch3tan


WHY DO HPBS need there own server!!!

They can play on any!!! Ok so can LPBs, and there are some very good HPBs, but hpb's of this generation moan and bicth about everything under the sun. CS is a game of skill and it takes a long time to get good. PLaying on servers with a lower skill elvel jsut so you can get kills will not improve your game. And because some players are good, their skill is blamed by hpb's on their connection, this is annoying and shows great insecurity on the par tof the hpb.

I read the jolt forums, all I ever see is Lpb's were on our server. moan, whinge, bitch. Fix it etc, admin mod has only been introduced recently.

Also read the toher post by sil|away, some very strong points about ping times adn the difference it makes.

Gettign a hpb server is like buying a big car cause you've got a small dick -it doesnt change the fact your dick is minute.
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Ch3tan m8, you are totally missing my point!!!

I KNOW i am not a great player, I am NOT intrested in being the best in the world, I only play CS for FUN!

And I dont find it fun to be bottom all the time cos im playing against LPBs, at least on HPB servers I can get a few kills. I dont play cs seriously just for fun!

Get me now?

AL12342
 
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Ch3tan

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I have understood your point all along, it can be easily turned and said the same for every connection speed.

My point is HPb servers seem to be more trouble than its worth. I certainly dont want to be called on 24/7 to come kick player x from the hpb only server cause he has a sub 100 ping.

Its not my decision, but imo there shouldnt be one.

Why not try asking the poeple its upto, i.e the game servers forum.
 
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