Any Bonearmy bonedancers out there?

[kameh]

I'm currently leveling my little Bonedancer and although I started suppression spec'd for Thidraki I decided to try out bone army afterwards. I have to say that although it's not always as fast as suppression for killing I have more fun doing it.

How is it at 45+ and is it worth going Bone army since I've no intention of RvRing with the character anyway?

ta for any help

 

[riv]

archer pets are fucking insane, unusable in DF and shite in both PvE and PvP ime.

the soldier pet is ok tho, and the the stackable DoTs are nifty as a nifty thing with niftyness on.

tbh

spec darkness >:>

 

[Xandax]

My BD will personally go split spec between BA and Supp. (haven't figure the precise spec yet, will do so at 40) - but I only use healer pets. BA pets are not very good at all from what I've seen/heard/read.

 

[kameh]

lol sounds like you feel the same as me about BA. I want to try it but have the sneaky suspicious I'll gimp myself if I go 48 BA/24 supp. I might have healer pets but the BA pets I've seen so far haven't been better than supp ones..

 

[shatar]

I have tested all BD speclines on the test server in US daoc. Darkness(Bone Mystic) specc line is fucked up beyond reckoning. The debuffer pet's casts aoe debuffs and pulls entire areas/rooms at ya. The caster pet's don't generate any aggro at all with theyr spells and the commander suxxorz at holding aggro.
Bone Army specc line was fun mostly because of the stacking dot's, which is indeed very nifty. My wiev on the archer pet's are that they are slow to the point of annoyance and that they miss 99% out of 100%. The fighter pet's are bound to draw aggro from the commander it seems and it is hard knowing which one they are attacking so you can heal em. A kinda mix with commander, fighter pet and healer pet could work great though.
Suppression (Bone Guardians) is the god mode among bd's. Insta life-tap, healer pet's and abs buff for pet's. They are easiest to play, even though I lean towards BA as most fun.
Tests wasn't very extensive and were w/o bb. Just did em for fun to see how bad darkness specc was and why noone played BA.

 

[kameh]

It's a shame because I really want to spec high BA for the DOTs but I don't think it'll be half as effective as Suppression. Why on earth Mythic gave us 1 out of 3 lines that's viable I've no idea, Albs and Hibs can moan about BDs being over powered, but fact is those of us that want to PvE seem to have to spec for RvR to do so

I'll be respecing in a few levels and unless my continued dumping of points into BA pays off with tank pets that are worth having I'll have to go for Supp spec. The buffer pet in supp seems far more useful than the tank pet in BA

 

[etcetra]

Bonearmy spec is like > all when it comes to PvE..
Rei was specced 50 BA or sumthing, soloed a full patrole f.example.. 2 oranges and a red comamnder..
And was like pwning in PvE and PL.. sux in RvR thoug.

 

[zane]

Hrhrhrhrh, SUPPRESION FORTEHWIN....

 

[kameh]

Well since I got home and found the server was down I started pissing about with character builder and decided to try:

50 Bone Army (for once I might as well go the whole hog)
18 Suppression (first healer pets, not much difference between them and 2nd)
9 Darkness ( few extra buffs for pets)

Purely a PvE character who will suck bigtime in RvR I know it's an odd spec compared to most BD but I really find the lifetap to be a bit power hungry and don't particularly like tanking with cloth armour (even with 2 heal pets).

 

[Whoodoo_RD]

I tried all specs too on Gorre, only a level 49 tho.

BA was mental in PvE as long as you avoid dungeons (DF etc) due to crap pathing, and have a BB on standby to heal as that will seriously dran your mana pool. Pet bufs are faily good tho.

Dark, forget it, caster pets got resisted and lasted 30 seconds against yellows, again healing here even with a level 18 healer pet will suck you dry. The healer pet heals for no where near anough to counter a high mob attack. = 1 dead caster, and 1 commander requiring max healing spam.

Supp, healer pets here do all the work, easy debuff pull, using lowest debuff for less mana usage, send in the pets, sit down and craft away. Using 1 x healer and 1 x buffer, you get in fact 2 fighters, more pet buffs and faster kills. If healers get agro, simply switch to lifetap and drag the mob off, healer lives, you live job done.

IMO dark and BA full are useless.

 

[kameh]

Originally posted by Whoodoo_RD
IMO dark and BA full are useless.

Oi boss you saying that full BA is useless or not, seems you've had too much to drink AGAIN and you're not making as much sense as usual

I agree that I definately need some sort of heal pet, simply to stop me having to heal constantly on my own. Problem I have just now with a mainly supp spec at level 35 is that my sodding commander can't reliably hold aggro off the healers or buffer (if I use one) and I keep having to jump in with LT (which I hate).

I want an easy life damn it! I should be able to dot/dot and sit on my fat troll arse until the XP comes in

I'm sort of hoping that if Mythic ever nerfs the lifetap they'll boost the DOTs - something tells me they will eventually. (basically all the moaning the yanks are doing).

 

[riv]

was playing with char builder:

Supp 48:

• Final LifeTap
• Final Healer Pet
• Final Buffer Pet
• Minimal Varriance on Supp Spells

imo its not worth going any higher, since the snare is pointless, and there's not a big enough difference in the 43 and 50 pet ablatives to justify the cost.

Bone Army 20:

• 26 Point Specline DoT
• 21 Point Area DoT
• Decent (25) Aid DEX & Aid QUI for Pets
• Pet Dmg Add (4.4 Dps)
• A little less variance on your base DoT

You get a nice AoE Dexterity and Quickness buff for your squad, and the second DoT that will stack with the baseline to give a bit more punch. Nice damage add should help take mobs down a bit faster if you're farming, and irritate ppl a bit more in rvr. The AoE DoT isn't potent, but certainly useful in RvR- especially with a cave shamm0r.

Darkness 14:

• Okish (19) Aid CON & Aid STR
• Snare, could come in handy to stop escapee's
• A little less variance on your baseline Darknuke, should you ever need it.

You get an ok AoE Consitution and Strength buff for your squad, the extra pet is pointless, but the snare could possibly come in handy. Mostly for the buffs.

 

[kameh]

hehe that supp spec is what I was going to go for originally until I started playing supp and got frustrated with the whole lifetap thing. I know it's great but I just don't enjoy it in PvE because of resists and the huge power usage.

RvR it truely kicks arse though, hope to group with you a bit Riv for that 9% abs buff

 

[Mirala]

Well to kick ass you should spec 48Supp and rest in Darkness you know

My brother Ghazkull ( http://www.duskwave.com/daoc/classrank.php?class=Bonedancer&server=Excalibur&realm=&order=rp )

Pwns pretty damn much and I get disgusted when I see him own 5+ peeps at the same time

48SUPP for
Final LifeTap
Final Healer Pet
Final Buffer Pet
Minimal Varriance on Supp Spells
REST IN DARK
Instant debuff FORTEHWIN
And +Darkness never hurts for the baseline DD:s! (Which is used alot)

 

[Whoodoo_RD]

ATM danime stands at 35 supp, 7 dark (need this for str/con boof) and 11 BA for DoTs.

If you have gone full supp, you lack the boofs, hence why your pet wont pull agro off the healer. With dmg add and str/con he should do OK.

At present I can solo Soultorns in DF easy, they resist mellee a lot, yet my 1 commander - 1 healer - 1 buffer pet combo munches thru them nicely while i tailor in a corner. The Agro thing i solve using LT as a last resort, or a str debuff to stop the healer taking too much dmg, then he normally sorts himself out.

If healer gets agro and starts running off, hit passive (brings the pets home) then you can once again see ther mob. Should be ok from there.

I can solo 2-3 yellows quite easy, no BB either, and soultorns are orange, but still little problem with 1 add, 2 can be a prob sometimes tho.

Its just practise m8, and when u get the right combo, it suddenly becomes very easy.

 

[zane]

BA for exping is really nice...But since I go with BB most of the time, I don't need petbuffs etc

Goodluck with your BD m8 They own everything later...