I am a FH squatter
- Jan 7, 2004
Thread has served it's purpose, will delete my posts. Feel free to contact me Kyra if you want to debate what I have said.
This post is NOT about the realationship between TDS and TLW.Ziva said:However, i don't want to be the one to shut you all up so i leave it open for now since i also hope an adult discussion might lead to some better relations between TDS and TLW.
Casbardh said:This post is NOT about the realationship between TDS and TLW.
Its about one persons undertsanding of another, which has been brought up in a very public place.
Therefore, as posted previously by other folk and yourself, this is a matter for the TWO of them to get on with sorting out.
Not TDS and TLW.
The realm does not need division, it needs unison.
I did not do this, you did Chodax. You brought this to this forum deliberately to berate and attack me. You could have contacted Boss or another officer/gm in game but you didn't.Don't turn this into TDS v's TLW, you want to take shots at me fine but fucking leave my guild alone.
Which is EXACTLY why this thread should end now Cho, the principal individuals should talk it out inm PMS if need be.cHodAX said:As always a voice of sense, I only posted here to clear my name. I have nothing bad to say about TDS, this is just me and Kyra. I wish TDS all the very best, as I have always done.
Kyra, oh dear. Don't deny what your said, there were witnesses. Fotm guild and loot whores. I shall say no more.Kyra said:Oh dear... Noo Yussef, I wasn't talking about TLW when I was talking about getting people to join a guild using items. I was talking about a different guild. Its my fault for lumping you guys in with the other guilds and I apologize for the confusion.
I also did not mean to imply that TLW leaders have tried to recruit TDS members. Please forgive me if that is how it sounded.
As for the whole loot thing, listen. I have based my past assumptions on what I have heard from my guildmates. I have heard a lot of stories from many people in guild and in game about the handing out of items, etc. However, any time we have had a problem with this, we have contacted the person in charge. Am I jealous? yeah I am a little, because I know I am not able to run a hunt as large scale as your guild can. (my last 3 failures at a dragon raid prove this). I am big enough to admit this. Do I go around saying "oh that darn TLW" all day long? NO. I am sorry that Chod has dragged you guys into this. I am a very passionate and emotional person. When I feel that someone is being wronged I lose my temper and say things I don't mean. This is a case of a friend taking things that I hoped were in confidence and sharing them with the world. I only want us to get along and work together, not against each other.
I can honestly say I hold TLW in the highest respect and I am sorry that this was brought to the forum. I would love to log in right now and discuss this in game but I can't. My computer is in the process of being upgraded and so I can't log into game.
I did not do this, you did Chodax. You brought this to this forum deliberately to berate and attack me. You could have contacted Boss or another officer/gm in game but you didn't.
My sincerest apologies to Hro. This isn't about you or your guild, its about Chodax and me.
I won't be replying again, my feelings are much to hurt by someone I thought was my friend.
and pudzy's as well .....Yussef said:"Firstly, I don't have a problem with TLW's leaders. Hro and Boney are nice men and have gone out of their way to help me and many other people out. I have a problem with the members who act as though they are better than everyone else because they are in TLW. I have a problem with ANY guild who actively goes and recruits all the theurgists/stealthers/whatever from every guild, sometimes offering rare loot items to get that person to join."
I'm sorry, but that's the worst BULLSHIT I've ever heard in my life, we have never actively recruited anyone from a guild, they applied themselves. I think we had like 30 applications in two days or something silly once recruitment re opened. Also since when have we given items to someone who has just joined? Base your arguments on facts at least. Just because we can obtain items easier than other people, does not make us bad people. Perhaps it's a failing in YOUR guild that you cannot obtain them and have to come out with this drivel?
Anyway, clashes can be sorted out, maybe message a GM next time, this thread shouldn't have been posted anyway.
its not!!? what have i been doing? /quits daocZiva said:It makes me sad to read this thread since i both consider you well respected players. I really don't think this belongs on a public forum and part of me wants to close this thread cause i think you both should and can sort out your differences in private.
However, i don't want to be the one to shut you all up so i leave it open for now since i also hope an adult discussion might lead to some better relations between TDS and TLW.
If the thread however get's nasty and flames will follow i will close it anyway cause i don't think that will lead to anything good and i hope you both understand that.
Please sort it out guys, it's a game meant for enjoyment and relaxing... it's not meant to create hostile feelings
I have a problem with ANY guild who actively goes and recruits all the theurgists/stealthers/whatever from every guild, sometimes offering rare loot items to get that person to join.Choppy said:and pudzy's as well .....
errmm where did kyrah say TLW had offered bribes or anythign else to people?
Bullshit Choppy, if you are denying she slagged of TLW in IRC then you are full of shit.Choppy said:/me points to the sixth and seventh words in the above posts quote from kyra
Any guild - for those who don't want to count <eidt> just noticed she actually typed ANY with caps to draw your attention to it
guess it was a bit missleading as TLW was said in the same paragraph though.
nice post boney btw
and kyra's comments where not aimed at TLW, as said a few times now it is Chodax and Kyra that seem to have a problem.
personally i would wish they didnt argue, especially on forums like this. but some one says something about you you feel you have to respond. think it would be best if they didnt bait each other at all <in game or here>.
on behalf of kyra thank you for your appologies, her normall PC is in bits on the floor hehe