An Ode to Rhuac and Sharpeye...

[illu]

There is a fireplace crackling away, a crowd is gathered in the tavern.
People are eating, drinking, having a good time, and then it was time for PopIdol, Camelot style.

A Bard makes his way to the front and clears his throat, and plays a little tune...

"There once were 2 archers by the name of Rhuac and Sharpeye,
Who spent hours playing their favourite game
It's a shame they spent all their time near or up Beno tower
(Adding) Helping and leeching on every fight - so lame

Rhuac has the bigger balls and at least he likes to roam
A little away from the tower he likes to call his home
With his MoS5 permanent SL he pops stealthers for fun
then the moment they chase him, off he runs!

Sharpeye the camper lives up in his Beno tower,
For 5 hours he stayed not moving at all,
He managed to rake in 35000 RPs, my god,
No skill, stupid game, no balls.

They carried on playing until they were RR eleven,
then looked back on the days gone by
then suddenly they realised they could have had much more fun
If only they had not been afraid to die."

The Bard steps down, waiting for the judges verdicts, and waiting for the audience to phone in with their votes.....

:>

Oli - Illu

PS But Seriously, come away from the tower a bit guys, you are going to bore yourself to death and using 2 buttons for "nearest enemy" and then "shoot" isn't good for the circulation :> Come out and fight! I want your RP :> You've had enough off me!

 

[Infanity]

Dont expect much from them, They dont look templated at all ;d

Had some nice fights tonight, Shit night none the less zerg after zerg ;d

 

[Alyssania]

Wondered where you went and been watching closely here while volleying the mids at beno bridge.

And I wont get much bored with closest target and rf. So many sb's and hunters near the zerg all the time trying for their all time 2h Pa or killing off solo support class running from beno that ill spent time there until I find nothing to pop. What I do everytime I start to play I run for few rounds and check the areas and most likely I end up following the targets I know you guys like to hunt meaning the weakest ofc. I mean your not out there to find good solo fight either. Your there to get free rp's and im there to stop you guys from getting those too easily. I mean for weeks you guys done nothing but bragged how much your biggest PA and how you one shotted this and that and whats your titles saying because you have the ability to kill support while others cant attack much back either because oneshotting or mezz poison and vanish.

But serious advice if you want to avoid meeting me. Stop chasing the support or patrolling close to alb zerg since 99% if im online ill be looking for you guys just from there. Wont get me much solo kills but its good fun and gets me the rps I need so some nice day I am actually being able to run around not having to die everytime someone with any kind of melee comes near to me. And other personal advice would be change your goboldish look to something not like Zaberhut since he and his bunch of merry soloers pretty much the reason I dont want to roam around much at the moment and will pop every single stealther there is and run as fast as I can with my small saracen feet. Too many times seen a fine line of red names coming at me and them using everything they got to gank poor solo scout.

Your good fun to meet but if you think rr5 ml4 (especially one with mos5 and 45 LB) scout can ever beat rr9 sb with purge up 100% of time then I can send you some fine beer if you show me how. When and if I would be playing my inf or mini it would be different since with those I have actually killed something during my days in melee. Losing to sb in water with 6% health while I was 100% with my scout really tells everything how good rp's I think scouts are for anyone if scout is running around soloing long way from safer spots. I could ofc choose the other way and group up with every stealther around like everyone else seems to be doing at the moment.

Soon some lucky sb will get free rp's off me when I get my new template done (damn the eoy encounter fun to solo with cleric and necro. Hours and hours of fun riding the ram just to get one necklace) and im going to test if that and new spec then will give me any chance in melee now im rr5.

Have fun out there and just pm me here if your getting too annoyed about my playing while your online and ill go pve or sit down everytime I meet you since I dont really mind losing few rp's. There seems to be plenty around zerging near albs all the time.

 

[xGenocidex]

Dont expect much from them, They dont look templated at all ;d

Had some nice fights tonight, Shit night none the less zerg after zerg ;d

heh Rhuac was shooting my sm before... found it funny he'd choose the class with a pet that intercepted 7/8 of his arrows than the defenceless sm next to me ;x

 

[Phalanx]

Illusb

You should try playing a scout and you'll see how utterly difficult it is to kill other rogues in melee, which is often why scouts do just what they are actually supposed to do - stand at a distance and shoot.

As a scout you are just a walking slam machine and that's it. My own scout is very decently specced and geared towards melee and I can honestly say I lose next to all fights against other rogues even if I land a slam and manage to get as much as 1k damage in from that, which is rare. You've been playing long enough and killed your fair share of scouts so you know very well how fast we drop in melee.

There's nothing wrong with a scout, or any archer for that matter, standing at a distance so he can use his given weapon - the bow.

 

[Thorwyn]

I think what Illu means is, that there´s a difference between using your tools and weapons to your advantage and sitting on a tower all day long, being untouchable and just wait for people passing by like a spider.

I agree, as a Scout, you´re having a hard time against other stealth classes. But that shouldn´t keep you from trying.

 

[Elrandhir]

Heh well my Ranger is all Bow and will get splattered in any melee fight, still I never camp any Towers really as I just don't have any patience =P

Well if iRvR and I know there will be a constant stream of incs I might camp alittle, but even then I usually get bored and move around after a short time.

If in melee I will try to run though as I know my only chance is getting some distance between me and my Enemy.

 

[Elrandhir]

Those wanting an melee fight can fight my hero instead ;D
Think only 1 of the few I have lost to with him is Theodon, but that aint to strange as Im CS spec and against someone pure shield spec as I guess he it's you'r in a no win situation really as 2h -to hit, so dual wielders should have a much easier time against him as the got +to hit against shield users.

Ofcourse I would loose to more, but I don't solo to much =P but on the few occasions I solo I havent lost to many tbh, most fights are rather easily won, and some are abit tuffer ofc.

 

[fettoken]

Why make it harder then it already is to get realm points... and from a fotm 9lx shadowblade... you suck uke:

 

[Mavericky]

I'm not saying how people should spec and the scout is more naturally a bow spec but, Aoln seemed to do very well as a high RR melle scout. I wonder how many scouts spec full melle including getting a full melle ToA suit and see how well they perform. With my hunter I have all the melle orientated artis to make sure that I perform well in that role. No point having marisha's GSV etc and then expecting to win in a melle fight.

 

[Elrandhir]

Why make it harder then it already is to get realm points... and from a fotm 9lx shadowblade... you suck uke:

Hard to see who this was aimed to really, but Il take it neways, I don't have that hard time getting RP's with my ranger tbh, but it is harder then haveing a melee spec ofcourse, still I already have the Hero for melee and I want to do something else while on ranger.

And you'r post suck also, so guess that would make us even =P

 

[Mavericky]

Why make it harder then it already is to get realm points... and from a fotm 9lx shadowblade... you suck uke:

lol, I think Illu had his sb well well before they were fotm, great arguement

 

[Elrandhir]

lol, I think Ilu had his sb well well before they were fotm, great arguement

Hm Fettoken post not aimed at mine >.< well it still sucked =P
It is hard to even see what someone means when useing so few words tbh ;D

 

[illu]

:>

I think the game needs some sort of ladders on towers though. Or maybe a time limit as to how long you can be in a tower for.

I can appreciate archers playing how they want to play, especially if they are bow specced, but there are some amazing scouts out there who are really tough to kill, izasku, and a few others, that are specced to hit you hard from stealth and bow, then to FZ you when you are close and then to run if you are going to kill them.

But, surely it is BORING staying in 1 place for 5 hours knowing you are untouchable?? - it's almost like a bug abuse :> But you can't blame the player - the game is at fault.

And yes - Scouts are not too difficult to kill, so team up with a bodyguard infil or mincer and roam and have some nice fights. I tried playing a caster a bit and fighting from range and just pressing a button to zap or shoot an arrow into someone is boring. Get in close, hear the chinking of metal on metal, smell the kill, and then zoom away.

Looking forward to seeing you guys templated, high RR and out there on the battlefield, which at the rate you are getting these free RPs, shouldn't be too long :>

Oli - Illu

 

[Puppet]

I dont think scouts like that will ever leave a tower aslong there's people who feed them rps from their tower.

I do agree fully tho with Illusb tho, scouts have a hard time competing in 1vs1 with other stealthers, but camping a tower for 5 hours+ seems boring to me.

Ofcourse scouts who spec pure bow and have ROG's to get max dex-cap, then complain how scouts suck in melee are just plain silly

 

[Xajorkith]

No disrespect to Illsb is meant by this post.

What really miffs me off is the mentality of the so called Assassin classes. Assassins are built 100% for killing a character at close quarters, assassins 80% of the time have no problem defeating archers in Melee. An Archer on the other hand is built 50% for range and 50% for melee.

The whines about MoS5, the whines about running away (Kiting) from assassins are absolute pathetic, these are archer tactics. You don't see archers whining at assassins who reapply poisons... it's a tactic....

All I see these days are so called l33t assassins who just want archers to roll over and die to so called Honour. There is absolutely no Honour what so ever in watching an R8 assassins killing an R3 archer realm mate, Honour is defending your brethren (only if they want defending though!) at all times.

MoS.
An assassin with MoS 4 has equivalent MoS to a MoS 5 archer, assassins can have MoS 5 which is superior to archer MoS 5, so ANY assassin whining at MoS is doing so because they can’t be arsed to spec in it.... it's your choice. (Now if you were whining about Cammo that's different, but you are not.)

Example of today’s typical assassin attitude. - Neferete.

I using MoS see and pop Neferete, (outside the Mid iRvR portal FFS!). I FZ Neferete and fight is close, TWO scouts then start shooting me, I /send a guildy who I know is close by and request help as it's now 3 v 1, my fellow Hunter helps me (now 3 v 2), Neferete gives up fighting and emote spams my fellow guildy for adding... and subsequently dies, my pet automatically goes to one of the scouts interrupting him, my guildy interrupted the other scout then 1fg of mids steam roll them Victory to Midgard! Neferete then logs on to Midgard and hurls abuse at the Hunter for adding...

Archers stand up against these silly assassin bullies and their l33t attitude. Play the game to your tastes, play the game to your classes strength, don’t fall into this propagander bollux by assassins for you to feed them rps. They are playing a superior and FoTM class let them earn their rps.

 

[pip]

Nothing wrong with keep camping I do it with my warlock


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[Elrandhir]

To some degree I agree with Xajor, it dosent aply to everyone ofcourse, but some seem to view it like that, only seeing things and arguing for what will benefit the class they play without any thought of how a Bowspeced ranger or whatever needs to do to gain most by the spec he has, some see it both ways from their post, but many do not.

I agree camping a tower or whatever for hours is abit extreme and to me all to boring to do =P

But noone can expect a fully bowspeced Archer to get into melee with an class thats all melee, and everyone dosent have FZ either, for those haveing that I don't see a big problem, still I bet they would QQ getting FZ and shot dead also tbh =P

 

[Dafft]

Illusb............


I'm not worthy Im not worthy I not worthy

FFS stop whining about melee scouts - there are few good ones!

 

[Nuxtobatns]

Wondered where you went and been watching closely here while volleying the mids at beno bridge.

And I wont get much bored with closest target and rf. So many sb's and hunters near the zerg all the time trying for their all time 2h Pa or killing off solo support class running from beno that ill spent time there until I find nothing to pop. What I do everytime I start to play I run for few rounds and check the areas and most likely I end up following the targets I know you guys like to hunt meaning the weakest ofc. I mean your not out there to find good solo fight either. Your there to get free rp's and im there to stop you guys from getting those too easily. I mean for weeks you guys done nothing but bragged how much your biggest PA and how you one shotted this and that and whats your titles saying because you have the ability to kill support while others cant attack much back either because oneshotting or mezz poison and vanish.

But serious advice if you want to avoid meeting me. Stop chasing the support or patrolling close to alb zerg since 99% if im online ill be looking for you guys just from there. Wont get me much solo kills but its good fun and gets me the rps I need so some nice day I am actually being able to run around not having to die everytime someone with any kind of melee comes near to me. And other personal advice would be change your goboldish look to something not like Zaberhut since he and his bunch of merry soloers pretty much the reason I dont want to roam around much at the moment and will pop every single stealther there is and run as fast as I can with my small saracen feet. Too many times seen a fine line of red names coming at me and them using everything they got to gank poor solo scout.

Your good fun to meet but if you think rr5 ml4 (especially one with mos5 and 45 LB) scout can ever beat rr9 sb with purge up 100% of time then I can send you some fine beer if you show me how. When and if I would be playing my inf or mini it would be different since with those I have actually killed something during my days in melee. Losing to sb in water with 6% health while I was 100% with my scout really tells everything how good rp's I think scouts are for anyone if scout is running around soloing long way from safer spots. I could ofc choose the other way and group up with every stealther around like everyone else seems to be doing at the moment.

Soon some lucky sb will get free rp's off me when I get my new template done (damn the eoy encounter fun to solo with cleric and necro. Hours and hours of fun riding the ram just to get one necklace) and im going to test if that and new spec then will give me any chance in melee now im rr5.

Have fun out there and just pm me here if your getting too annoyed about my playing while your online and ill go pve or sit down everytime I meet you since I dont really mind losing few rp's. There seems to be plenty around zerging near albs all the time.

Think i saw some too many times the 2h PA and oneshooting. Have u ever seen any1 get oneshot ? If we get all str relics and a good crit...only then.

And all about what u said...when many Mids/Hibs/Albs gather at the main bridge at a place where iRvR takes place.... soloers (like me) cant even get enemies to fight (and even if they find some away from the crowding, they will mostly be grped, like many examples i can give). So ... staying a bit close to the bridge and try to kill something before u get added upon from friends and foe... thats the 2nd best u can u do besides log.

And Phalanx...there are scouts that not only can stand up and fight vs an assassin but also have a good chance of winning.

Also...staying up on a tower and shooting peeps...is a bit lame. But since we cant do much about it ... Just dont say u r 'good', 'worthy' or anything. And defo u dont deserve a gratz thread for example.

 

[Elrandhir]

Also...staying up on a tower and shooting peeps...is a bit lame. But since we cant do much about it ... Just dont say u r 'good', 'worthy' or anything. And defo u dont deserve a gratz thread for example.

Lame yes, somewhat if you only camp a tower, but I doubt anyone will camp a tower always.

So wrong imo, however you may play haveing a melee specced char dosent make you more wordy of an Gratz thread, I have never cared for any such Threads, but anyone haveing the patience to get to Higher RR's should have it if they want, whatever spec you are and Melee spec is easier to have tbh, well not if you camp a Tower 24/7, but I doubht anyone does.

if the person deserves a Gratz Thread depends on how he is towards others in game, or on the forums imo, not for what char or spec he uses.

 

[Danzaz]

And other personal advice would be change your goboldish look to something not like Zaberhut since he and his bunch of merry soloers

What the fuck is up with u man?
Did i shit in ur cereal or summat?

I play solo 50% of my online time, i duo bout 49% with Find/Fujiata/Vind or sum old m8 and the remaning 1% goes into grps bigger then 2.

Getting fed up with u talking shit bout me, ask anyone in game (a handy one would be Illusb) how many times he sees me in the zerg.
Yes i grp up sometimes, like once ever 2 months but wtf.

If u wanna whine on someone do it on ur m8s running grps of 5 all the time.

Post ur charname so i can go solo ur ass a few hundred times so youll shut up.

And yes this is whine and i will "QQ more noob" and "Cry a river" and "play the tinyest violin" etc etc etc etc

 

[Vipr]

Dont see what all the fuss is about, any toon who relies on 100% on bow damage has no place roaming around on foot and if it has half a brain will keep its arse well and truly up ontop of a tower outta harms way.

Yes it may seem be a lame way for them to get their RP's but the alternative for them to get caught in a a potential in melee situation is death. The human competetive streak for survival being wat it is, the will to survive will always prevail.

Bow needs some loving across all realms, increased performance on bow will generate the more hybrid type templates and give archers more outlets and scenarios in rvr for their toons. Atm to me is so stupidly ineffective its ludicrous.

 

[Danzaz]

Bow needs some loving across all realms, increased performance on bow will generate the more hybrid type templates and give archers more outlets and scenarios in rvr for their toons. Atm to me is so stupidly ineffective its ludicrous.

Did u eat the bowl i obviously shat in?

Met loads of scouts/rangers/hunters that can do very well in both melee and with a bow, rangers is actually my worst enemy atm.
Imo bow does NOT need loving, does all the dmg it needs to do for most of the ppl i find to get me down in melee afterwards.

 

[Alyssania]

Well some more points I feel the need to make here.

I dont generally sit inside a tower waiting for someone to come close enough that I can shoot em. Only times I do this if mids or hibs camping beno bridge. Then I usually run up to guardtower and set gt and start shooting and volleying. Illusb met me yesterday about 10 times I think and with mos5 its not hard for me to see sb's coming at me so I usually rf em to get em out of stealth and also sometimes they seem to be pretty confused if they want to attack or not. Once I got crit shot off for about 800+ (think that was one of my first ones to high rr stealther) and it was insta vanish. I dont know how many scouts like me with mos5 are there but since I got it I have been pa'd about 2 times because of delay with shooting and arrow hitting. I can only imagine how annoying that must be for a class that used to just run around getting high melee damage off stealth and good damage in straight melee.

As a noob scout (not that I would say im now anything else but noob scout) I used to think my role in rvr was mainly in keeptakes and towers and when I ran out more and more and got zerged and killed over and over by the same sb's that dont like my play style now I desided I try mos5 as soon as I get it, respec back to 45 LB from higher melee spec and make my daily job to shoot every single enemy stealther I just see. I just dont happen to think scouts made for 1 vs 1 fight and I really didnt like some people just watching next to me while I died to rr9+ stealther. Im happen to enjoy my scout more than any of the other 9 chars I have at the moment and one reason to it is I get much better fights even though they are rare than I used to get with my old playstyle on my scout. I dont ever add on a "fair" fight. I do like to watch those and I generally dont like shooting at the winner either after it unless hes really low health and I think hes better off rebuffing than waiting for health to come back.

Everytime I run from a fight I do actually get a reason for that. Either its some nice adds that I run away or see with mos that cfh working and other stealthers closing. I learned that I can actually get away in those situations time to time. I used to just sit down and die earlyer. I wont generally run because it would got anything to do with not wanting to die to a soloer but sometimes I do that too. Now with mos5 it hasnt been such a problem but funny thing is that most of the whiners that cry about people running wont hesitate using vanish if they losing or PS or speed burst. Saw it happen many times yesterday and happened loads when I was more melee specced, low rr and with mos2-3. Then I couldnt find em but now like said its not a big problem if they choose to die without weapons in their hands if they vanished.

The place I ran around yesterday was area of the hill near beno spire and hill near the legionair mobs. Thats a nice place to run around since seems that every single stealther runs around there when mids have the port and more so if some albs camping near the spire. Also thats a nice place most of the time since there isnt loads of alb duos+ running there. Some odd soloer like me around sometimes but most move closer to middykeep.

Most people here tell tales about scouts like Aoln that tough and all but also most didnt see em playing for ages with their chars and playing through the good and bad times in OF. I used to run unbuffed around those times with my inf and I got fair few good fights but usually lost to some over buffed people. I actually met alot of unbuffed people time to time and off hour times so it was a totally different game back then. You guys just saying that every high rr stealther would have got there without ever doing anything what people do these days. I mean Aoln always soloed and dropped buffs against unbuffed enemies and never did anything unfair against anyone right? Because hes high rr ofc... (sorry for taking Aoln as an example hope you dont mind if you still reading these boards)

Also using ip purge all arties you can and FZ + other ml's isnt really what I call being tough opponent since that way youll be killing about 3 people in an hour if your lucky.

 

[Danzaz]

Also using ip purge all arties you can and FZ + other ml's isnt really what I call being tough opponent since that way youll be killing about 3 people in an hour if your lucky.

And what do u think all us other stealthers do to win the fights vs high RRs?
Learn how to play ur class, get ur MLs, get the best possible gear sorted and try playing it as it should be played instead of standing there with ur gt shooting at a bridge all day long.

 

[Elrandhir]

Dont see what all the fuss is about, any toon who relies on 100% on bow damage has no place roaming around on foot and if it has half a brain will keep its arse well and truly up ontop of a tower outta harms way.

Not true, I am very high bow and I always roam, And I do rather well tbh.

Still I do agree to this:

Bow needs some loving across all realms, increased performance on bow will generate the more hybrid type templates and give archers more outlets and scenarios in rvr for their toons. Atm to me is so stupidly ineffective its ludicrous.

But at the same time if Bow would get improved, melee would have to be nerfed, or that the bow would only get increased performance after lets say 45 or so.

 

[Vipr]

Did u eat the bowl i obviously shat in?

Met loads of scouts/rangers/hunters that can do very well in both melee and with a bow, rangers is actually my worst enemy atm.
Imo bow does NOT need loving, does all the dmg it needs to do for most of the ppl i find to get me down in melee afterwards.

No i didnt eat this bowl of yours, and from what ure posting about bow damage i think the crap you talking might have filled it in the first place!!

"""""IMO""""" it does need some loving....

 

[Alyssania]

What the fuck is up with u man?
Did i shit in ur cereal or summat?

I play solo 50% of my online time, i duo bout 49% with Find/Fujiata/Vind or sum old m8 and the remaning 1% goes into grps bigger then 2.

Getting fed up with u talking shit bout me, ask anyone in game (a handy one would be Illusb) how many times he sees me in the zerg.
Yes i grp up sometimes, like once ever 2 months but wtf.

If u wanna whine on someone do it on ur m8s running grps of 5 all the time.

Post ur charname so i can go solo ur ass a few hundred times so youll shut up.

And yes this is whine and i will "QQ more noob" and "Cry a river" and "play the tinyest violin" etc etc etc etc

Think I hitted a nerve here. Been active again since the patch and your actually only one I seen everytime there is a bigger group of solo stealthers running in stick range. Few days ago first I saw was you running close 2 times with Aldoran for example and then yesterday I got attacked by you and 3 other stealthers in the first 15 minutes of playing. You actually never attacked me like many other have without atleast one add close to help you. Im sorry if you solo all the time and I have got totally wrong impression about you but if thats so you better leave the cookies in your pocket home since there isnt too many stealthers around I havent seen you running with and the bastards ofc want your cookies if you die and following you all the time. They seem to like the rp's more though. Another option would be your playing 24/7 and with your calculations you solo 5020 minutes in a week you duo 4939.2 minutes in a week and zerg about 100 minutes in a week. With my play time of about 1-2 hours every second day I must have been really lucky and better go lotto straight away.

But again seriously I play late night mostly and thats usually before people are logging and fed up with enemies zerging so they formed nice groups and I see those and judge people by that. I once in my life grouped when my brother who wanted to test his 49 scout and we went as a duo to get zerged and havent seen my brother ingame since so ill be soloing for a long time now most likely so youll get your chances to solo (or zerg) me plenty of times. Like said your the only one person I can straight say your the reason why all middies especially gobbie ones get arrows everytime I see em no matter where and how big zerg is going to run over em after that.

 

[Vipr]

Not true, I am very high bow and I always roam, And I do rather well tbh.

Still I do agree to this:

Bow needs some loving across all realms, increased performance on bow will generate the more hybrid type templates and give archers more outlets and scenarios in rvr for their toons. Atm to me is so stupidly ineffective its ludicrous.

But at the same time if Bow would get improved, melee would have to be nerfed, or that the bow would only get increased performance after lets say 45 or so.

explaination on your playstyle is needed my friend...

Do you do well solo on foot by adding on every fight you see?

Do you only target low RR players?

Or do you do well because you have super l33t bow damage, high MoS, Ml10 toys, CL5, UZI, bazooka , heatseeking arrows etc???

not saying you do all of these but id like to know what u consider "doing well" is and how you achieve this..