An Armsman/Woman please

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svenwork

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Hello Armspeople (how PC)

I would like to see how my healer fares against an Armsman 1v1 if there are any Armsmen/Ladies here that would like to put me through my paces please post then we can PM to arrange a time and a place :)

My healer is not full Aug BTW only 27 in this line.

History:
Last night I got jumped by Karimkazi near lake in Emain and won, then got aggro from rtm Mindworm and did not win :)

Night before Rambo Jumped me at amg, fool :D
Paid me back yesterday though when he was with another 3 infils a paladin and a minstrel.

This is why I would like to test my healer with a proper tank
 
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old.Morchaoron

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Can healers actually beat stuff in melee????

hmm healer vs armsman... I thinkyou would last maybe 10 seconds hehe (maybe 20 with instant heals)

but ofcourse healers can use their instant 'chicken out' (instant stun/mez or whatever that really is) when they're losing
 
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hrodelbert

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i should imagine it would be a stalemate, if i had purge you die if i get lucky and resist your stun you die otherwise you can stun me and run off but i dont fancy your chances of actually beating me tbh. i can be found in emain daily but the chances of an uninterupted duel nowadays seems slim. i can see it now... we fight out of interest, not to the death and as we sit down to rest several things could happen... I get jumped by 25 shadown00bs just as you get jumped by about (slightly less tbh) 20 zergfils. OR one of the two of us get zerged my 20FG's of hibs (do that many hibs play? :p )
 
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old.Morchaoron

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Originally posted by svenwork

This is why I would like to test my healer with a proper tank

Someone like me? I don't have PA and I won't steath, come on then!! ;)
 
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Korebwyn

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I lost to a healer melee in darkness falls..

was 50 shield, 44 thrust and 37 parry at that time I think..

got some of the fight logged

[22:09:00] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:00] You parry Mordia's attack!

[22:09:03] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 82 (+1) damage!
[22:09:03] You critical hit for an additional 25 damage!
[22:09:03] Mordia does 28 extra damage to you!
[22:09:03] You are hit for 28 damage.
[22:09:04] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:04] You are hit for 66 damage.
[22:09:04] Mordia does 35 extra damage to you!
[22:09:04] You are hit for 35 damage.
[22:09:06] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 84 (+1) damage!
[22:09:06] You critical hit for an additional 20 damage!
[22:09:06] Mordia does 35 extra damage to you!
[22:09:06] You are hit for 35 damage.

[22:09:08] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:08] You are hit for 60 damage.
[22:09:08] Mordia does 23 extra damage to you!
[22:09:08] You are hit for 23 damage.
[22:09:10] You miss!

[22:09:11] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:11] You parry Mordia's attack!
[22:09:13] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 84 (+1) damage!
[22:09:13] Mordia does 32 extra damage to you!
[22:09:13] You are hit for 32 damage.
[22:09:15] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:15] You are hit for 53 damage.
[22:09:15] Mordia does 30 extra damage to you!
[22:09:15] You are hit for 30 damage.
[22:09:15] Mordia casts a spell!
[22:09:17] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 78 (+1) damage!
[22:09:17] Mordia does 28 extra damage to you!
[22:09:17] You are hit for 28 damage.
[22:09:18] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:18] You block Mordia's attack!

[22:09:20] Mordia blocks your attack!
[22:09:22] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:22] You block Mordia's attack!
[22:09:23] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 101 (+1) damage!
[22:09:23] You critical hit for an additional 42 damage!
[22:09:23] Mordia does 24 extra damage to you!
[22:09:23] You are hit for 24 damage.

[22:09:25] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:25] You are hit for 48 damage.
[22:09:25] Mordia does 30 extra damage to you!
[22:09:25] You are hit for 30 damage.
[22:09:26] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 85 (+1) damage!
[22:09:26] Mordia does 22 extra damage to you!
[22:09:26] You are hit for 22 damage.
[22:09:29] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:29] You are hit for 56 damage.
[22:09:29] Mordia does 25 extra damage to you!
[22:09:29] You are hit for 25 damage.
[22:09:30] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 74 (+1) damage!
[22:09:30] You critical hit for an additional 9 damage!
[22:09:30] Mordia does 24 extra damage to you!
[22:09:30] You are hit for 24 damage.
[22:09:31] You prepare to perform a Beartooth!
[22:09:32] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:32] You block Mordia's attack!
[22:09:33] You perform your Beartooth perfectly. (+60)
[22:09:33] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 139 (+1) damage!
[22:09:33] Mordia can't have that effect again yet!
[22:09:33] Mordia does 25 extra damage to you!
[22:09:33] You are hit for 25 damage.

[22:09:36] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:36] You block Mordia's attack!
[22:09:36] You must wait 1 seconds to use this ability!
[22:09:37] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 92 (+1) damage!
[22:09:37] Mordia does 24 extra damage to you!
[22:09:37] You are hit for 24 damage.
[22:09:37] You must wait 1 seconds to use this ability!
[22:09:38] You must wait 3 seconds to use this ability!
[22:09:38] You must wait 2 seconds to use this ability!
[22:09:38] You must wait 2 seconds to use this ability!
[22:09:38] You must wait 2 seconds to use this ability!
[22:09:38] You must wait 2 seconds to use this ability!
[22:09:39] You must wait 1 seconds to use this ability!
[22:09:39] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:39] You parry Mordia's attack!
[22:09:39] You cast a Ignore Pain Spell!
[22:09:39] You heal yourself for 1481 hit points.
[22:09:39] You are fully healed.

[22:09:40] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 77 (+1) damage!
[22:09:40] You critical hit for an additional 13 damage!
[22:09:40] Mordia does 24 extra damage to you!
[22:09:40] You are hit for 24 damage.
[22:09:42] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:42] You parry Mordia's attack!
[22:09:43] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 85 (+1) damage!
[22:09:43] Mordia does 26 extra damage to you!
[22:09:43] You are hit for 26 damage.
[22:09:46] Mordia casts a spell!
[22:09:46] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:46] You are hit for 83 damage.
[22:09:46] Mordia does 37 extra damage to you!
[22:09:46] You are hit for 37 damage.
[22:09:46] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 73 (+1) damage!
[22:09:46] You critical hit for an additional 32 damage!
[22:09:46] Mordia does 29 extra damage to you!
[22:09:46] You are hit for 29 damage.

[22:09:50] You miss!
[22:09:50] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:50] You are hit for 67 damage.
[22:09:50] Mordia does 37 extra damage to you!
[22:09:50] You are hit for 37 damage.

[22:09:53] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 87 (+1) damage!
[22:09:53] Mordia does 32 extra damage to you!
[22:09:53] You are hit for 32 damage.
[22:09:54] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:54] You are hit for 54 damage.
[22:09:54] Mordia does 27 extra damage to you!
[22:09:54] You are hit for 27 damage.

[22:09:57] Mordia blocks your attack!
[22:09:57] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:09:57] You block Mordia's attack!
[22:10:00] You miss!
[22:10:00] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:10:00] You block Mordia's attack!

[22:10:03] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 98 (+1) damage!
[22:10:03] Mordia does 27 extra damage to you!
[22:10:03] You are hit for 27 damage.
[22:10:04] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:10:04] You are hit for 65 damage.
[22:10:04] Mordia does 36 extra damage to you!
[22:10:04] You are hit for 36 damage.

[22:10:06] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 96 (+1) damage!
[22:10:06] Mordia does 24 extra damage to you!
[22:10:06] You are hit for 24 damage.
[22:10:07] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:10:07] You are hit for 62 damage.
[22:10:07] Mordia does 31 extra damage to you!
[22:10:07] You are hit for 31 damage.

[22:10:08] Mordia casts a spell!
[22:10:08] Your attacks are slowed by an unseen force!
[22:10:10] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 95 (+1) damage!
[22:10:10] Mordia does 49 extra damage to you!
[22:10:10] You are hit for 49 damage.
[22:10:11] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:10:11] You parry Mordia's attack!

[22:10:14] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:10:14] You are hit for 78 damage.
[22:10:14] Mordia does 32 extra damage to you!
[22:10:14] You are hit for 32 damage.
[22:10:15] Mordia blocks your attack!

[22:10:18] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:10:18] You block Mordia's attack!

[22:10:20] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 100 (+1) damage!
[22:10:20] Mordia does 56 extra damage to you!
[22:10:20] You are hit for 56 damage.

[22:10:21] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:10:21] You are hit for 61 damage.
[22:10:21] Mordia does 33 extra damage to you!
[22:10:21] You are hit for 33 damage.
[22:10:23] Mordia casts a spell!
[22:10:23] Your attacks are slowed by an unseen force!
[22:10:25] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:10:25] You block Mordia's attack!

[22:10:26] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 80 (+1) damage!
[22:10:26] Mordia does 55 extra damage to you!
[22:10:26] You are hit for 55 damage.

[22:10:28] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:10:28] You block Mordia's attack!
[22:10:32] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 102 (+1) damage!
[22:10:32] Mordia does 43 extra damage to you!
[22:10:32] You are hit for 43 damage.
[22:10:32] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:10:32] You parry Mordia's attack!

[22:10:35] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:10:35] You are hit for 52 damage.
[22:10:35] Mordia does 33 extra damage to you!
[22:10:35] You are hit for 33 damage.

[22:10:37] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 92 (+1) damage!
[22:10:37] Mordia does 50 extra damage to you!
[22:10:37] You are hit for 50 damage.
[22:10:40] Mordia casts a spell!
[22:10:40] You are mesmerized.
[22:10:45] Mordia casts a spell!
[22:10:48] Mordia casts a spell!
[22:10:51] Mordia casts a spell!

[22:10:54] Mordia casts a spell!

[22:11:01] Mordia casts a spell!
[22:11:01] Mordia begins attacking faster.
[22:11:04] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:11:04] You are hit for 58 damage.
[22:11:04] Mordia does 19 extra damage to you!
[22:11:04] You are hit for 19 damage.
[22:11:06] You enter combat mode and target [Mordia]

[22:11:06] Mordia is too far away to attack!
[22:11:08] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:11:08] You are hit for 77 damage.
[22:11:08] Mordia does 19 extra damage to you!
[22:11:08] You are hit for 19 damage.
[22:11:08] Mordia is not in view!
[22:11:09] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 92 (+1) damage!
[22:11:09] Mordia does 34 extra damage to you!
[22:11:09] You are hit for 34 damage.
[22:11:09] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:11:09] You block Mordia's attack!
[22:11:12] Mordia attacks you with her hammer!
[22:11:12] You are hit for 49 damage.
[22:11:12] Mordia does 21 extra damage to you!
[22:11:12] You are hit for 21 damage.
[22:11:13] You attack Mordia with your sword and hit for 94 (+1) damage!
[22:11:13] Mordia does 25 extra damage to you!
[22:11:13] You are hit for 25 damage.

linkdead.

so.. I used FA2 and IP.. and still lost. nerf healers
she mezzed and healed up once tho, and could have done same again
 
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svenwork

Guest
When I was fighting Karimkazi I did not insta mezz/stun as we had already played the mezz game getting close to each other :)

I do have a attack speed debuff shout aswell which I spam as I have no fighting styles so have nothing else to do in a fight, apart from watch my health and hit insta heals at relevant times :)

"hrodelbert" PM me and we can arrange a nice quiet spot not in emain for a fight :) just want to see how the stacks up against uber tank, I dont mind if its to the death :) then it will make it more worth while to you or me, we can always use rps.

Note to all crying Duel GOA rules etc. if we are 1v1 and no other players there to rez us it does not break the rules

email: x_n0@hotmail.com and we can arrange a get together :) and thanx in advance
 
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old.Morchaoron

Guest
Koreb you gimp!!!! :p

Wish I still had the log with my scout vs healer....

Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block

the only thing that made me sick was he mezzing me all the time and sitting down and healing, and then he had these instant heals... battle lasted more then 5 mins bah was lucky I didn't get zerged by mids
 
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svenwork

Guest
old.Morchaoron I am happy to face you too in battle 1v1 you have my email to arrange a time place suitable to both of us :)
 
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Artemls

Guest
Originally posted by old.Morchaoron
Koreb you gimp!!!! :p

Wish I still had the log with my scout vs healer....

Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block, Block

the only thing that made me sick was he mezzing me all the time and sitting down and healing, and then he had these instant heals... battle lasted more then 5 mins bah was lucky I didn't get zerged by mids

Guess that healer didn't have a dmg shield on then.

Artemis
 
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liste

Guest
Svenwork, yes, it does break the rules.

You are here, organizing it, making it a PLANNED duel, hence, against the rules.

If you fight to death, i'd go as far as taking my personal time to go there and screw up your duel.

if you fight to near-death, its not really that horrible a breach. But still a breach :)

Having a rezzer each present, just makes it A: dueling and B: farming, breaking another rule in the process.

Just so you know :p
 
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svenwork

Guest
from Rightnow - About duels.

Many players have been wondering what was the official stance of the event team regarding duels. In order to answer this question, we need to clarify what is hiding behind this simple word; duel.

- The unexpected duel, one versus one, leading to the death of the escape of one of the two fighters.
- The organised duels with “healer” classes, able to bring back to life slain players.

In the first case, it is an honourable (or not so honourable) duel, with which we have no problem as long as it is unplanned and exceptional.

In the second case however, we face an alteration of the game, allowing players to do what we call “RP farming”, the act of “farming” realm points doing many “controlled” duels and sparing the healing classes. For such situations, we will not take direct sanctions against the players even if it is an alteration of the Gameplay. However, do not be surprised if your whole party is slaughtered by wandering guards, friendly jousts have no place when there is realm war going on!

I am merely doing part one of the rules, as there are no healer present (apart from myself) to rez either of us (cant rez myself), As this would be a one of release come back fight then the threat of a guard zerg is not valid. So come if you want liste but wait your turn :p no details of where to meet will be posted here :p so happy hunting
 
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old.windforce

Guest
hmmm i have some trouble with this. especially the word "un expected" which hardly describes organised meetings.

sorry mate, have to withdraw :(
 
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svenwork

Guest
It state the first one is honourable yes

So lets look at the second part:

“controlled” duels and sparing the healing classes

We are not breaking this rule, we are definately not sparing the healing classes (me) it is organised so much as we are arranging to go to a place at a time, but 1v1 not rp farming

For such situations, we will not take direct sanctions against the players even if it is an alteration of the Gameplay. However, do not be surprised if your whole party is slaughtered by wandering guards, friendly jousts have no place when there is realm war going on!

If Goa deem us to be breaking the rule which I dont think they will (ruling here please Kremor) then we will see first hand for ourselves, by the guards swamming over the hills to help us of this mortal coil. :)
 
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old.willowywicca

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btw after we get 1.54, no one may use the new /duel command, cos that breaks teh rules too cos those won't be unexpected either and sure, they're not rp farming, but in this example where a healer wants a one off fight vs an armsman (which sin't rp farming either) you're saying it's not allowed.. similarily the kinds of duels you would have using the /duel command are against the rules in a similar fashion... :m00:
 
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svendoc

Guest
How about after 10pm gmt tonight then?
email me if you want to hook up
 
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old.Morchaoron

Guest
Originally posted by Artemls


Guess that healer didn't have a dmg shield on then.

Artemis

probably not, and if he had I would have used another tactic that would have wasted him in 8 seconds....
 
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svenwork

Guest
You have my email address Morchaoron, if you want to prove a point then we can arrange a chat :D
 
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liste

Guest
Its still RP farming, although its fairly low-budget :p

its organized, hence, its wrong.
 
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svenwork

Guest
Read the rule not hard to understand does not specifically call this RP farming does it

/enough said on the matter
 
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svendoc

Guest
Originally posted by old.windforce
nerf healers

Thanx for meeting me honourable Armswoman, was nice to meet to lovelly lady like yourself.

We met in Odins and had long battle (I can outlast anyone :)) thanx to my damage shield and my multiple procs I emerged triumphant with 1 insta Stun left in the bag, but was down to 15% health after both insta heals.

A galant duel thank you :)
 
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svendoc

Guest
Yeah sure :)

Note to you was going to kill one before in hadrians when a friend of his helped out and he beat me but he was down to 5% at the end :)

My email is in a previous post so email it and we can arrange where and when ok :)
 
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Arlone

Guest
paladins can outlast anyone, and thats why they keep winning duels against armsmen on the US :rolleyes: Engage and let healchant fully restore HP (there are tricks to keep them from doing this tho) ;)
 
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old.windforce

Guest
problem is healer fight unstyled.
can't fire defenders rage / revenge for that reason and engage is useless against unstyled opponents.

i do think twisting chants is the way to go against healers.

probably FH and FA2 and IP would make a paladin win any 1 vs 1
you need a shitload of rps for that though

don't think an assasin can win a 1 vs fight versus a healer unles he is able to kite him/her and switch weapon 2 or 3 times
 
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svendoc

Guest
Well Rambo has jumped me at amg emain and lets just say he regretted it :)

But then again he is a Saracen which is gimp class for an infil anyway
 

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