Am I gimping my Hero?

[Jace]

Hi All,

I have a lvl 27 Hero which I want to develop. At the moment he is maxed in Parry and LW however I've noticed that this isn't the best for grouping as if I miss my taunt move it's a fair few seconds before I can try again.

When I started playing I initialy used Blades and this currently sits at lvl 9. I'm thinking I could start a melee with Shield + Blade and use Taunting Blade to get aggro then swicth to LW, making sure I switch back if I lose aggro.

With this in mind 9 would seem to be too high in Blades as the style I need is only lvl 6 and I'm not looking for damage, just aggro. Would this play tactic work?

On that back of this would it be worthwhile puting any points into shield?

Would a LW / Parry / Shield / Blade hyrid work?

I love playing my Hero and if it would work out best in the long run would even reroll so as not to waste any spec points (EU player btw so we wont see respec for absolutely ages).

Thanks in advance for any advice.

 

[Matinex]

If you put points in LW take it to 50.

Blades is good for PVE but worthless in RVR, take it to 39 if you want to be group friendly.

Taking shield to 42 is the most important a hero can do, its always useful. Both in RVR and PVE.

Parry..hmm put your leftover points here.

And you will have a excellent "hybrid hero".

 

[old.Hendrick]

I tried a template for my upcoming spear hero and ended up something like this:

Spear 44
Parry 30
Shield 42
Blade 34ish

Sounds good to me. I think it's nice to go for blade/shield in the beginning and then later start switching to spear and parry. That way you can be group friendly at lower levels and start to kick butt later. True RvR-fun starts at lvl 35+ anyway. Replace spear with LW and you have a nice hybrid template for a large weapon guy.

 

[old.Helkhor]

sort of on the same note.


I've got a lvl 34 Champ spec in LW and parry, but as u say this is pants for grps and i take too much damage and die lots.

i have specc'd in blades/shields upt to 10/12, this is great for grps as i take a lot less damage and can swing the sword quicker for taunts.

I usually taunt my way thru a mob, if end finishes swop to lw which gives a much higher standard swing dps.

btw fighters are gimp'd anyway in rvr, not to worry about lw, shield or swords

when u have been, mez'd nuked, mez'd nuked dead as many times as me

or my personal favorite,(being an elf champ) one shot kills from stealthers.

because GOA slightly messed up on the elf hit pts,

 

[Kobold]

Felt the same myself...I maxed LW until lvl 17 (some parry too) adn did solo very god..hitting parthans with big LW hammer. And then I specced all in shield and some blade. So at lvl 27 I got 25 shield, 18blade, 17 LW 13 parry. That works very good. But if you going for some shield, you shuold put the shield up almost to you're lvl for more blocking. Not any point with shield if yuo not block alot...and I block alot with this specc...also do good damage with LW. Very nice for RvR too. GO around with shield up, to awoid sniper arrows and when u get close to him, switch to LW and BANG......i can see my house from here......waaaaaaaa..... hehe thats one flying kobby.

 

[<Harle>]

I heard of an interesting spec leaving Blade really low ( basically at 6, as taunt is all you ever need in PvE, but having it at 9 doesn't Hurt either), then having a high shield-spec for block/guard and Slam later on ( aiming for 42 then) and throw the rest of your spec-points into LW (max it) and parry.
You'll have taunt and shield for grouping, if you have to solo you still do enough damage with your LW.
I think Idril has a similar spec ( with CS instead of LW), so perhaps contact her in-game...

 

[Jace]

Thanks for the replies, intersting

At lvl27 I'm something like this with about 30-40 spec points untrained :-

LW 27
Parry 26
Blades 9
Shileds 3 (max, cant quite recall)

Suggestions on what to do next to move towards a hybrid hero would be apreciated.

Cheers

 

[granny]

Pump shields. You'll start finding it very hard to get into groups past lvl 30 without good shield spec since tanks are mostly needed for holding agro and soaking up damage while the nukers & shades etc dish out the killing damage to the pooka/dullahan/savagebear blah blah

 

[Kobold]

OMG, thats way to much parry m8, lol...you should never raise that again. I would do all points in shjield now, until you have it almost equal to lvl, as I sayed earlier, shield is useless if you don't have alot of points in it...then it really kick ass. I think you should raise blade a bit too, so you get the block attack chain and the side attack chain thats pretty nice. And for solo, shield are actually better than LW (i think..not really sure) but with my hero I solo blues without getting hurt at all...just blocks, parrys, evades and misses. very low downtime then. And it fits very good to the warden bubble chant, if the mob hit you once in a while the bubble take it.....but still shield are useless in RvR, so don't totaly forget the LW. LW also good if you're a support tank in small group, to do more damage. But still...2 shield heroes as tanks with guards on eatchothers....damn that is really fun!

 

[old.Reno]

With the specs you have atm, I would pump your shield till it's near your lvl, leave blades as it is.
Your final template will be something like 50 LW, 42 Shield, high 30's parry and 9 in blades.
On US servers this is the flavour of the month tho they tend to favour blunt over blades.
This spec has it all in terms of use-any-time stun (Slam) very good damage and good styles (50 Lw) RvR wise. Your tanking ability in PvE will be awesome and with protect on the right person you could be able to hold aggro quite well. If the low blades spec leaves you with enough damage on the taunt for it to be strong enough I don't know, that's something you'll have to find out yourself.
Once your shield spec is at or near your lvl start putting points in LW and parry again and you'll have a good RvR character even in the low 40's. Something that hybrid-heroes with high 1-hand weapon spec are lacking in due to a low spec spear/LW and low parry.

Danita.

 

[Perplexed]

Don't waste too much on parry - it won't work vs styles in RvR

 

[Spudgie]

I have a luri champ at low level, my plan is to go blades/shields till respec comes in then change to LW/Parry in one go at level 40, i dont plan on RvRing with him till then anyway

 

[old.Reno]

Originally posted by Perplexed
Don't waste too much on parry - it won't work vs styles in RvR

Neither does blocking in this patch.
However in later patches there have been reports that parry is better vs styles than blocking. Tho the parry/block rate vs styles is still very low.
Also the parry rate for 2-handers has gone /will go up with the patch vs normal attacks. So there's no reason not to put points in parry.

Danita.

 

[Matinex]

Originally posted by Perplexed
Don't waste too much on parry - it won't work vs styles in RvR

It does, you block/parry 3-6 % against someone that is same level as you, more against lower cons.