Am I Gimped?

[Jorof]

Hey all.
Im a lvl 50 warrior with a good template, (+to melee dmg, style dmg, melee haste etc.) and i often find myself being outdmged by other stealthers .. mainly nightshades that i have noticed a big problem, not only do they hit twice as fast (haste buff from druid) but they seem to be hitting harder than me aswell! I've had a couple good duels vs nightshades but even after the use i IP2 i find myself hitting the floor, the only time i have beaten one is when they dont purge my slam and i get some good 2h styles off...
Is there something im missing out here? fully buffed, no aug str, i have 376 str, as a norse, also around 2100 weaponskill, which im sure is more than what the NS has in HP or at least close, also i have nothing quickness because i've heard the less quick you have the harder you hit ..
Anyone explain what is happening

 

[Sycho]

Get 250 quickness, any pure tank/light tank SHOULD have that, there's no excuses only idiots will tell you different.I bet with 250 quickness you will beat them quite easy.

Also maybe some mastery of blocking/parrying, remember parry works extremely good for a s/s tank vs stealthers and 2h doubles your parrying vs CD/DW users.Also hope you are a hammer specced warrior if you want to destroy stealthers

 

[Jorof]

ok, well that's focked me up, just finished spending loads of money on a template with 0 quickness and i'll be buggered if i can get someone to craft some MP chain for real cheap
Am hammer spec and got MoB3 so .. dmg output is just what nightshades do then seen as the only thing u picked up on was quickness problem but i can prolly balance that with a haste charge ?

 

[Sycho]

Well pm me your email i alter your temp using 99 qua chain with qui in it...nah drop mob 3 and go mob 2 parry 2 if you soloing stealthers a lot then get mob 3 next....it's nice having parry vs DW/CD users if you soloing often.That 250 quickness would of helped an awful lot though, if you get red healer haste you still will not hit anywhere near speed cap on a 4.1 1h weapon but it would help.

 

[Tuppe]

dont forget botts, allso str/con debuff can be nasty.

 

[Foadon]

ever tried playing smart? engage, wait for block, brutalise, 2H backchain, if he purges just stay shield, iv won duels like that vs light tanks using DT,

i dont really see how u can keep losing against a stealther, either your dex needs upgrading, or you were very unlucky getting no blocks,
as for the template, qui does a world of its own, u can style faster giving u the edge on damage over time, and mp chain is a small price to pay to enjoy the game

 

[balkeriz]

haft to think aboute that hibs still have few of the str relics and they give a huge among of dmg more, and the have dd's that will make aboute 100-150 dmg, so what is worng can be anything, might want to get few mls or if arti stil lare at lvl 1-5 or so then get it to 10, might help. I have not tryed my warrior yet in RvR after i made all my mls and soon have all my arti, but will try it out and try get jumped by a NS. and look at what is worng and what do i need to get and what i need to get my warrior better in all.

 

[Dumle]

If the NS gets the jump on you then I guess you are kinda toast (If he lands PA+CD that is) but in a straight duel you should win I guess.

 

[Osri]

<Brings oil to burn those no qui & haste speaking ppl>

 

[Jorof]

ever tried playing smart? engage, wait for block, brutalise, 2H backchain, if he purges just stay shield, iv won duels like that vs light tanks using DT,

i dont really see how u can keep losing against a stealther, either your dex needs upgrading, or you were very unlucky getting no blocks,
as for the template, qui does a world of its own, u can style faster giving u the edge on damage over time, and mp chain is a small price to pay to enjoy the game

Nothing wrong with my dex unless 310 dex fully buffed is bad? i am getting the blocking in just as they hit 2 times faster i'll block the first one and they'll hit second time round so block styles are difficult to get off, before you say, i do use 2 styles i.e Provoke is now a backup for Revenge etc ..
Never tried Engage and Brutalise.
For the MP chain i'm not so bothered about the price it's either starting my own armourcrafter or finding someone willing to spend the time to do it.

 

[Sycho]

I had to drop winged helm and belt of sun but with mp chain you could probably use winged helm though you would need to lower some resists probably, put mp boots and mp shield in there, you also get full weaponskill when using 2h battler.I can alter it if you get any rare items but just used what you had though i changed a few.


Config Report

Stats

Str: 88 Int: 0 Hits: 252
Con: 79 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 80 Cha: 0
Qui: 75 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 28 Energy: 25 Crush: 24 (2)
Cold: 33 (5) Matter: 25 Thrust: 25
Heat: 25 Spirit: 20 Slash: 30 (3)

Skills

11 Hammer
11 Shield
8 Parry

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dex
5 Qui
40 Hits
16 Str
10 Con

Other Bonuses

5 Fatigue
7 Melee Damage Bonus
10 Melee Speed Bonus
9 Style Damage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard Of Valour(tank)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 33.5 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 4 Hammer - 99 flawed Fiery War Rune
Gem 2: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Gem 3: 7 Energy Resist - 99 imperfect Light Shielding
Gem 4: 3 Shield - 99 rough Fiery Battle Jewel
Utility: 63.67

Head
Imbue Points: 33.5 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 22 Dexterity - 99 precious Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Spirit Resist - 99 polished Vapor Shielding
Gem 4: 3 Matter Resist - 99 rough Earthen Shielding
Utility: 56.67

Legs
Imbue Points: 33.0 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 16 Quickness - 99 polished Airy Essence
Gem 2: 3 Hammer - 99 rough Fiery War Rune
Gem 3: 22 Constitution - 99 precious Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 4 Shield - 99 flawed Fiery Battle Jewel
Utility: 60.33

Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars(Tank)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Gem 2: 4 Hammer - 99 flawed Fiery War Rune
Gem 3: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Spirit Resist - 99 imperfect Vapor Shielding
Utility: 66.67

Right Hand
Name: Malice's Axe
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: 5 Fatigue
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Shield - 99 flawed Fiery Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 9 Slash Resist - 99 polished Watery Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Thrust Resist - 99 polished Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Heat Resist - 99 imperfect Heated Shielding
Utility: 70.00

Two Handed
Name: Bane of Battler
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 10 AF Cap Increase
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 7: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 8: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Beaded Resisting Stones
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 10 Body Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Harpy Feather Cloak
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 2: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 4 Parry
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00

Jewel
Name: Harpy Feather Charm
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 6 Body Resist
Effect 4: 44 Hits
Effect 5: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 59.00

Belt
Name: Belt Of The Brute
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 30 Strength
Effect 2: 18 Dexterity
Effect 3: 48 Hits
Effect 4: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 44.00

Right Ring
Name: Ring of Seven Storms
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 4 Parry
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 15 Constitution
Effect 5: 13 Dexterity
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.67

Left Ring
Name: Cenalon's Ring of Might
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 25 Strength
Effect 2: 12 Dexterity
Effect 3: 12 Constitution
Effect 4: 4 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: 4 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 48.67

Right Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

 

[Jorof]

Thanks alot for sorting all that out for me Sycho, you have been most helpful.
Im currently working towards the new template in the hope to beat all you stealthers!
Btw anyone lgm armourcrafters feel like making some MP boots pm on Heeroaw ingame or drop a reply to this thread.

Tnx again Sycho

 

[remi]

warrior shouldnt have any problem vs equal rr NS/infil.


boost your mob and parry(parry is ubererest vs dualwield).

 

[Raggelll]

hmm

when i meet 1 NS/infs when im solo i just go taunting, drawout for sword high to hit bonus.
my warr is a big troll with alot of str (445 str 2390 ws) so when taunting, rouges will have a hard time evading, even slam useally sits at first strike.

but you never meet 1 infs/NS if so that would mean his duo friend went LD or sum

but as a warr you should handle 2 stealthers
if you would meet a paladin or a main tank, even light tanks i useally go defensive.
use bonus to defence styles.

 

[svartalf]

Stealthers tend to gain realm points faster than other classes because they don't have to release when a zerg comes their way. Even a warrior will usually die in a 1-on-1 if he's many RRs behind.

Just my general observation.